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fishmech posted:That's pretty much an accurate description of the first Red Scare to be honest. I always thought the term Red Scare to be a little confusing considering it's roots in nativism. Although I suppose you could call it 50/50 on anti immigrant and anti union, both of which turn nicely into "foreign communist provocateurs!" Whichever, it's clearly the progressive's fault.
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quote:During the trip I also announced my upcoming engagement, to which he only replied, "Why are you doing that?" and stayed silent the rest of the way. Please let this be to a person of the same sex.
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Sorry for side tracking, but isn't "upcoming engagement" almost an oxymoron? Engagement is a promise of marriage, so as soon as two people have agreed to get married they are engaged, so it can't be upcoming any longer. 
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Nenonen posted:Sorry for side tracking, but isn't "upcoming engagement" almost an oxymoron? Engagement is a promise of marriage, so as soon as two people have agreed to get married they are engaged, so it can't be upcoming any longer. "Upcoming Engagement" was code for "I'm gonna get blazed with my professor tonight" when I was in college. But yeah, anyone that would use that word is probably implying "I'll be engaged just as soon as the low-life can afford the $10,000 ring I demand." poo poo if I were a woman and someone gave me a useless rock that cost 10 Gs I would cut them with it.
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...or it means he was telling his dad he was planning to ask and just hadn't popped the question yet. Or that he and the future spouse agreed to wait until graduation/employment/loans paid off/whatever like countless other couples do. Let's keep the misogyny in check, drat. My dad's been sending me a lot of subtle "well the oil spill is Obama's fault because if Bush were in office you'd be blaming it on him  " bullshit. And this afternoon at my mom's birthday lunch he made a big deal about the Arizona immigration bill and how I was wrong about it stating that officers are now legally obligated to stop and identify anyone who they have reasonable suspicion of being illegal (he said it's like curfew law for kids under 18 and you have to get stopped doing something illegal first). I'm more sad about it than anything else. I don't want my parents to be right-wing batshit Fox drones. 
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Quakerman posted:So I read Thomas Frank's What's the matter with Kansas? and then I read this head and my head exploded at how much sense everything makes now. As much as I am inclined to believe this book, I was under the general impression that more rigorous research had provided some evidence that the theories put forth in this book were, at best, an incomplete picture of a complex working of public opinion and electoral behavior. It's been a while though, so I don't remember any specifics. Edit: Jesus loving Christ that American Thinker article. The Asperger's accusation is so wimpy compared to the accusations that he might have had head trauma (from physical abuse!), his head is mush from all the alcohol and drugs, multiple non-specific mental illness', but loving worst of all seems convinced that Obama was SEXUALLY ABUSED AS A CHILD. quote:While I can't prove it, the degree of Obama's disconnect reminds me of my sexually abused clients...  Someone should post this entire article in the thread, because we'll see it eventually and gently caress me does it belong up there with the best/worst of them.
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Logan 5 posted:As much as I am inclined to believe this book, I was under the general impression that more rigorous research had provided some evidence that the theories put forth in this book were, at best, an incomplete picture of a complex working of public opinion and electoral behavior. It's been a while though, so I don't remember any specifics. This, and a good follow-up read is Trucking Country by Shane Hamilton. After reading both books Frank's argument seems incredibly one-sided and selectively researched.
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Pungent Mammy posted:I just sent him the Treaty of Tripoli as a counterpoint to the last item, although he said he won't trust anything but the "actual document". The link I sent has a scan of the actual document, so I don't know if that will be enough proof. Well, insist on the actual document as the only acceptable proof when he claims that Obama is "violating the Constitution." "I won't accept anything but the actual document" is the equivalent of *fingers in ears* LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA.
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Just found this thread. I constantly receive these things from my mother. Here's one I had the pleasure of reading this morning!
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I wouldn't argue with a tour of military service in exchange for citizenship. If anything, it would train and educate many people looking to come into this country. We're not talking about just infantry either. Doctors, engineers, radio operators, etc. However, that last bit about "SEND 'EM THERE ANYWAY WITH NO AMMO! HURR" just shows the real malice and hatred within the e-mail.
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the posted:I wouldn't argue with a tour of military service in exchange for citizenship. If anything, it would train and educate many people looking to come into this country. We're not talking about just infantry either. Doctors, engineers, radio operators, etc. We pretty much already do this.
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Jun 14, 2010 16:37
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What do you do with someone too untrustworthy to let in to your country? Give them a gun and force them to fight a war for you.
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the posted:I wouldn't argue with a tour of military service in exchange for citizenship. If anything, it would train and educate many people looking to come into this country. We're not talking about just infantry either. Doctors, engineers, radio operators, etc. SERVICE MEANS CITIZENSHIP.
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It would be interesting also to see the reactions of conservatives. What happens when you take an illegal immigrant, arguably one of the most hated and despised person in a conservative's mind, and change them into a U.S. Soldier, the most beloved and revered person in a conservative's mind? How do they reconcile that?
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the posted:It would be interesting also to see the reactions of conservatives. They love them creepily behind their backs?
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the posted:It would be interesting also to see the reactions of conservatives. From my own experiences, their response is generally to block them out, mentally. Those sorts of soldiers don't exist as far as they're concerned. Blue-eyed blond Aryans tend to be all they will acknowledge as real soldiers fighting for Mom, apple pie, and baconators. The ability to ignore completely inconvenient facts in preference to fantasy is a highly desired and greatly valued skill among modern conservatives.
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RagnarokAngel posted:SERVICE MEANS CITIZENSHIP. Just one step from arbeit macht frei. 
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the posted:It would be interesting also to see the reactions of conservatives. Unless you make them marines they can reconcile it.
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I can't see where or why this should happen, but as the saying says, "poo poo HAPPENS" I surely hope I don't see this in my lifetime and just hopefully not in anyones lifetime that follows me..... Let's say I break into your house. . . A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV. Her point: Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the country, protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house). According to the protesters: You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan. You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.(TEEHEE) And what a deal it is for me!!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior. Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can communicate with me. And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them... Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America ! If you agree, pass it on ( in English ). Share it if you see the value of it. If not blow it off......... Along with your future Social Security funds, and a lot of other things! ---- It came with a whole bunch of pictures of the frito bandito and speedy gonzalez.
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I love how conservatives don't get theres a huge difference between "don't kick out illegal immigrants" and "it's racist to make every vaguely tannish person show ID"
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RagnarokAngel posted:I love how conservatives don't get theres a huge difference between "don't kick out illegal immigrants" and "it's racist to make every vaguely tannish person show ID" This is a core component of a conservative mind, I think. You see it everywhere. Say something sympathetic to Palestinians? You're "defending terrorism." Because some Palestinians are terrorists, I guess, that means saying anything the least bit nice about them means that you love everything that every one of them does! Think that America should realize it's just one country in a large world and that yes, we actually should consider the opinions of other nations sometimes? Why do you want America to SURRENDER ITS SOVEREIGNTY? My personal favorite: How can you favor reducing our CO2 emissions and usage of fossil fuels while being pro-choice? They don't seem to understand anything except pure black and white.
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quote:The COWBOY Solution to save Gasoline Everyone should have to work hard to become a citizen, just like I did when I was born here. Man, that was rough 
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Notoriety posted:Everyone should have to work hard to become a citizen, just like I did when I was born here. Man, that was rough So let's just give citizenship out to anyone who wants it then?
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yatagan posted:So let's just give citizenship out to anyone who wants it then? Only the ones with good aim.
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pillsburysoldier posted:Only the ones with good aim. Only the ones who are born here. And don't have illegal parents. And are white.
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New one from my stepdadquote:Subject: Nobody knows nobody in Chicago
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I'll still don't quite understand why ellipses are so prevalent in conservative e-mail chains.
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So, uh... what's the source of the Obama quote that says he only saw Gov. Rod once at the Bears game? I notice they didn't pin that down to any particular article, speech or time frame, big surprise.
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Capsaicin posted:Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America ! "They are onto us! Hide the Fritos!"
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Blarghalt posted:I'll still don't quite understand why ellipses are so prevalent in conservative e-mail chains.
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Zwabu posted:So, uh... what's the source of the Obama quote that says he only saw Gov. Rod once at the Bears game? I notice they didn't pin that down to any particular article, speech or time frame, big surprise. That's because it's made up. The various copies of this expose email made on conservative blogs and in comments are the only place you can find it online. Unfortunately that one isn't new, I saw it back in mid 2009.
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Also most people have horrible eyes for obvious photoshops. Besides the lighting being awful in all of them I think that last one is a famous campaign-era photo of Obama.Blarghalt posted:I'll still don't quite understand why ellipses are so prevalent in conservative e-mail chains. Makes it seem ominous, "isn't that intersting..." and "you fill in the blanks here about UN blue helmets patrolling the streets, Sharia law and a carbon tax".
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Blarghalt posted:I'll still don't quite understand why ellipses are so prevalent in conservative e-mail chains. Those are almost as bad as when "things are in quotes" which don't really need to be in quotes.
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How do you all deal with your families? If my mom sent me that kind of poo poo on a regular basis it'd certainly hamper our relationship. Not saying I wouldn't talk to her again or anything equally hyperbolic but a lot of that stuff is just plain infuriating.
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Coitus_Interruptus posted:How do you all deal with your families? If my mom sent me that kind of poo poo on a regular basis it'd certainly hamper our relationship. Not saying I wouldn't talk to her again or anything equally hyperbolic but a lot of that stuff is just plain infuriating. You just ignore them until they confront you then you make her cry because you don't hate muslims. Well, that's what I did anyway.
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Got this from some guy I have never heard of named Roy Ransom. I don't like his politics but I love his name. The email included a bunch of blingee type pictures of the American flag being folded but gently caress uploading all those images  quote:Meaning of a flag draped coffin
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