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Had the Mrs. sign for it after I went to work. Pffft.. I just walked this bad boy in and set him on the bench.  Sooooo pretty. First time getting something back from a machine shop (other than flywheels which don't count)  After this, I threw a heavy garbage bag over to cover it up some more. A few small rub marks from shipping went through the bag.  I noticed a strange mark on the nose of the water pump that was installed about 40,000km ago.  Turns out, something wasn't aligned quite right and that's part of melted timing belt cover on the water pump pulley.  Cleaned out the intake the best I could of built up oil. Got that last little spec after the photo (saw it on the camera and went hard at it again).  Taped and ready for paint with my  plywood theme behind it.
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$325+shipping to get the heads done by Outfront Motorsports.email posted:If you send me yours and they are rebuild able the cost will be $325 plus shipping. This will be for valve job, cleaning, and resurface along with valve seals and cam seals. These will be ready to bolt on. So that's next. 
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Jun 24, 2010 19:43
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I don't know what people usually charge to do similar work on imports, but to me that's a pretty bangin price.
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Jun 24, 2010 20:50
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Tear apart the bottom end next. I wanna see the destruction. Thats strange about the water pump. Its just a white box NAPA unit. Maybe the pulley is a little too large?
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Jun 24, 2010 21:22
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Or you used too much silicone to fasten it in place.
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Jun 24, 2010 21:41
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So I went to drain the oil today and start tearing down the motor for 8ender... but draining the oil is going to take all afternoon. Every now and then you can see a semi-clean drop come from the top right of the screen where the oil filter is weeping (oil and tears).
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Jun 25, 2010 18:17
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Oh holy hell. That poor motor. This thread is making me check my oil and coolant every fillup.
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Jun 25, 2010 18:18
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Sockington posted:So I went to drain the oil today and start tearing down the motor for 8ender... How does that even happen? And how the hell did 8ender not know the motor was full of sludge? I've never seen anything like that, you think it would be maddening but it's actually kind of impressive.
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Jun 25, 2010 18:31
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8ender, next time you do an oil change use oil, not pudding. That's the frozenphil tip of the day.
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Jun 25, 2010 18:56
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Pudding tastes a lot better than oil though
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Jun 25, 2010 18:57
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So a little confused...if 8ender says he changed the oil every 5k miles, how come it looks like this? Is it possible for that to happen after less than 5k miles?
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Jun 25, 2010 19:03
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 Mmmmmm! Put this in your crankcase mothafucka!
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Jun 25, 2010 19:21
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Coal slurry is a type of oil.
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Jun 25, 2010 19:51
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No idea how it happened but I'm sure this has something to do with the recently noise rod bearings. Gear oil would have run out thinner. Finished painting the valve covers and intake manifold. 
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Sockington posted:but draining the oil is going to take all afternoon. Every now and then you can see a semi-clean drop come from the top right of the screen where the oil filter is weeping (oil and tears). I... what...  Its like the engine is pooping. I'm very interested too see what that engine looks like inside. You're going to be splitting the old block I assume?
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Jun 25, 2010 21:13
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ozziegt posted:So a little confused...if 8ender says he changed the oil every 5k miles, how come it looks like this? Is it possible for that to happen after less than 5k miles? 5k kilometers.  Which, if my math is correct, is roughly 76k miles.
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Jun 25, 2010 22:49
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Bucephalus posted:5k kilometers. Would be about 3k miles actually.
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Jun 25, 2010 23:35
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Killjoy.
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Jun 25, 2010 23:38
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I know it's been posted already, but you should never sell your car to an industrious goon like Sock if you don't want your terrible car abuse secrets aired.
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deviant. posted:I know it's been posted already, but you should never sell your car to an industrious goon like Sock if you don't want your terrible car abuse secrets aired. I wasn't even going to post anything about the oil coming out. It just took so loving long, I had plenty of time to turn around, pickup my camera, turn on the cheesy video mode, and sit and watch it puke out. I don't even care about how lovely the old block is - I knew it was probably hosed going into this. This isn't an 8ender bashing thread.  I just told him that I'd get to the bottom of his issue during the duration of the project.It's not like everything was ziptied together with wire holding the hood down. I just thought it was funny he took the time to silicone the broken bolt into the timing cover even though it would do nothing. Other than that, nothing else seems really out of place. It's hilarious how awful the engine condition is but I'm not trying to poo poo on his parade.
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Jun 26, 2010 05:32
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It... was like a clown car full of slugs.
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Haha, holy poo poo that oil. I'm sorry Sock but I can't stop giggling at that video. The oil never looked like that when I was changing it in the past. Do you think its been taking on coolant while sitting? Maybe those last few thousand kilometers were creating some sort of super sludge in the engine for god knows what reason? I just don't know how that could have happened in the ~2000kms between the last oil change I did and your video For the record I changed the oil on that bastard engine meticulously, avoided Fram filters, and checked my fluids bi-weekly. Now if you guys want to see something I'm not proud of ask Sock to show you the awesome job I did on the driver side ball joint housing after I sheared the pinch bolt off. Sorry Sock, forgot to tell you about that one  Edit: Send the slop into Blackstone for analysis and see how long it takes to get a panicked phone call 8ender fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jun 26, 2010 |
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Jun 26, 2010 07:10
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I actually would be really curious to see what an oil analysis would say. Maybe that sludge all got worked loose when the motor was removed from the car.
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CharlesM posted:I actually would be really curious to see what an oil analysis would say. I sorta doubt it. That stuff should be sticky like tar at this point, lubricated only by the fresher oil still in the engine.
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8ender posted:Edit: Send the slop into Blackstone for analysis and see how long it takes to get a panicked phone call  No, nothing's wrong the car runs perfect why? You mean oil isn't supposed to be like that? I don't believe you.
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Christ, I've never seen anything like that before. I know it's cheaper than regular oil but you shouldn't really use HFO instead of lube oil.
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deviant. posted:I know it's been posted already, but you should never sell your car to an industrious goon like Sock if you don't want your terrible car abuse secrets aired. I have a strange desire to have this done to my previous vehicle. Sockington, want to buy a Jetta4 2.0l? You have to promise to show all of its terrible secrets.
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CharlesM posted:I actually would be really curious to see what an oil analysis would say. Seconding this, send a sample to blackstone, I'll pitch in $2 towards the cost. Edit: That video was like automotive scatporn. Where's the old metis smiley when you need it?
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H110Hawk posted:I have a strange desire to have this done to my previous vehicle. Sockington, want to buy a Jetta4 2.0l? You have to promise to show all of its terrible secrets. Maybe he could set up a pre-purchase inspection business.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I have a strange desire to send my current car to Sock with a huge cheque to tell him to just find problems with it so I can sleep better at night. Haha, this would be an awesome way to waste the rest of my life. The oil is finally done making GBS threads out.  Oil filter mount has a nice sludge coating inside  Oil pan off.    :Oil pump? This is the rod bearings. Would you mind sending us some oil if you get a chance? :I'm givin' er all she's got captain Pan is nice and gross too.  Block.  Nasty poo poo.  Less nasty poo poo. Still needs a parts wash.  Getting ready to split the heads off     I also noticed some gross coolant/oil mix. Below the water pump. It looks like the clear silicone that was used to seal the water pump leaked a bit and was mixing with some oil goop around the oil pan.  
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Haha what the christ, it looks like somebody filled it with loving wheel bearing grease.
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jammyozzy posted:Haha what the christ, it looks like somebody filled it with loving wheel bearing grease. This, except I was going to say molasses. Hahaha, good god!
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Looks like one of those chocolate fountains
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I can't wait until I have to follow engine break-in procedures on a car that will be clearing 200,000km during the break-in.  Saving a car from being parted out is like AI feel-good work.
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How many owners has this car had before 8ender? I'm kind of surprised this EJ sludged so badly especially considering what he says about the previous oil changes. Could it have sprung an internal coolant leak from the head gasket problems early on in its life and just wasn't obvious about it for 200k km? How did it get transported from 8ender to you? It's like an engine postmortem. What stories could you tell, little Subaru? I bet Blackstone's UOA report is just "AAAAAAAAAAAAA."
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According to the MOT it had one previous owner. I personally think it was somehow slowly leaking coolant into the engine while sitting. That might explain why the rod knocka knocka was always bad on the first startup of the day but usually fine after that. It would also explain the super sludge that developed while it was sitting in Sock's driveway. Honestly I never expected it to look that bad inside. I was driving the car daily right up until two weeks before I sold it to Sock. The only reason I stopped driving it was that I was starting to get the death rattle after lifting my foot off the pedal quickly at around 100km/h and I knew if I kept driving it I was asking for a rod through the block. That and the sparkly fairy dust in the last oil change.
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Sent the oil pickup tube and the bottom-end plate through the parts washer. I still have my doubts about the 100% internal cleanliness of the pickup tube since I could only run the varsol through it and not really scrub. Probably order a new one to be safe.
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Why not just run a coat hanger / pipe cleaner through it and see if anything comes out? A lot cheaper than ordering a new one.
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ozziegt posted:Why not just run a coat hanger / pipe cleaner through it and see if anything comes out? A lot cheaper than ordering a new one. I can't clean behind the screen where there is a bit of sludge left - the oil pickup tube would just point the pipe cleaners at the screen rather than behind it.
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What about a pressure washer? Wouldn't that get into the nooks?
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