Gumby Orgy posted:

My reply: "Please do not send me email forwards."

Choadmaster posted:

Just so you know, this one was posted and discussed a few pages back.

But I really, really want to know where Jose Illegal is getting all this great free healthcare, I could use it...

xanthig posted:

subject: Happy fourth of july

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ&feature=channel

xanthig's dad posted:

Nice music... interesting point.
YOU never met a slave or ANYONE that was truly victimized by pre-1960's
prejudices.
YOU have ONLY lived with northern city niggers.
Yep- I work the first 3 1/2 month of the year to support the gov't.
AND, I'm paying in excess of $1000 per WEEK for the privilege to do what
I want.
Of that, 3 months (of the 3 1/2) are to pay for social bullshit...
I have many times qualified to ask for help... NEVER did.
gently caress all of those that do.
gently caress all of those that won't stand on the two legs that God gave them.
gently caress you and your inflammatory silliness.
I thought that you only wanted to talk about the weather.
Have a nice 5th.

xanthig posted:

At some point I'll make up a "best of" of all the craziness he has sent me, and my responses to it.

xanthig posted:

I have a long string of crazy forwarded political e-mails from my father. Recently, I have been exploring ways to counter troll him, and then I stumbled upon this thread.

So I sent him this e-mail. I got the link from earlier on in the thread.


I got this in response.


Hot drat! That felt good.


At some point I'll make up a "best of" of all the craziness he has sent me, and my responses to it.

Lightning Jim's Dad posted:

Subject: Bad American



This Guy Had The Guts To Put This On The Internet .



YES, I'M A BAD AMERICAN

I Am the Liberal-Progressives Worst Nightmare.

I am an American.

I am a Master Mason and believe in God.

I ride Harley Davidson Motorcycles and believe in American products.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some Liberal governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!

I'm in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!

I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it!

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, do it in English.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.



My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and Willie G. Davidson that makes the awesome Harley Davidson Motorcycles.



I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.

I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing about it.

I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you!

So, shut up already.

I believe if you don't like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country!

This is AMERICA .We like it the way it is!

If you were born here and don't like it you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson preaches, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution.

Can I get an AMEN on that one?



I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my drivers license.

I think it's good.... And I'm proud that 'God' is written on my money.



I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause.

Get a Job and do your part!

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

I believe 'illegal' is illegal no matter what the lawyers think.

I believe the American flag should be the only one allowed in AMERICA !



If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I'm a BAD American.

If you are a BAD American too, please forward this to everyone you know.

We want our country back!



We NEED GOD BACK IN OUR COUNTRY!



WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

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I'm in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!

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I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing about it.

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And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my drivers license.

CDOR Gemini posted:

There are some really odd lines stuck in there with the usual right-wing platitudes.

fishmech posted:

No they can't.

You'd have to have 6 kids to even get over $1000 a month, and frankly, you're going to need all that money just to keep them fed and clothed.

And that doesnt even count the time spent being pregnant to have all 6 kids.

Lightning Jim posted:

They do seem to relate in the "I'm an American and a man and I'm proud of it and am not ashamed to hide it."

BonoMan posted:

... food stamp scams where they basically trade it for cash from their friends who work as cashiers at various retail spots.

downout posted:

Who gets food stamps anymore?

downout posted:

Who gets food stamps anymore? It's all on a food card that can only be spent on food. For the most part this "trade food stamps for $.75 on the dollar for cash" thing doesn't happen easily anymore. This sort of scam is near non-existant.

Capsaicin posted:

This may not be the perfect thread to ask, but couldn't find one not in LF that would be suitable. All this poo poo about "the biggest tax hike in US history starting January 1st"....has any reputable news source reported on it? When I google, I can only find things on Freep like sites.

quote:

A NORMAN ROCKWELL MOMENT



These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3, The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.








--- REMEMBER ---



IN NOVEMBER 2010, WE HAVE A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY

TO CLEAN OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE!

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These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read

quote:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

quote:

Obama is the most dangerous of all anti- semites. He appears to court Jews in America even as his policies towards Israel endanger the survival of the Jewish State.
Besides his Muslim upbringing, and his strong affection for Arab potentates, Obama has displayed visceral and visible dislike for the political leadership in Israel.
Liberal, self hating Jews in America who support Obama, will ultimately have to reconcile themselves with their Maker when Jewish boys and girls are forced to give their lives defending the Jewish State because of Obama's hatred for Jews policies towards Israel. One would do well to remember that Hitler graced Time Magazine's cover as Man of the Year in 1933, based largely on his considerable oratorical skills.
Obama's petulant and arrogant behavior towards Netenyahu is further factual evidence of his deep seated anti-semitism.
Jimmy Carter was not perceived as being anti-semitic while in the White House, but based on his writings and speeches in recent years, he is clearly an anti-semite.
Obama is not on record as having rejected the anti-semitc rantings and ravings of the Rev. Wright although he sat through TWENTY YEARS of these garbage sermons.
The gathering of Jews summonds to the White House that your email refers to is reminiscent of the Jewish concentration camp inmates at Tireizenstadt who were "fattened" up and displayed for the visiting Red Cross to assuage world doubts about what was really going on in the camps.
How many history lessons do we Jews need to learn before history repeats itself? That's why I am such an ardent supporter of the ultimate signature on the document that guarantees Jewish survival- that of the I.D.F.
Please take particular note of todays date, July 4th. It was exactly 34 years ago today that the rescue of the Jewish passengers held captive in Entebbe took place.
It was the IDF who carried out this rescue.
Enjoy your July 4th.

Econosaurus posted:

cletepurcel posted:

Speaking of Isreal, I just got one of these from my dad supposedly showing a "Palestinian garbage truck fitted to shoot missiles" and explaining that "this is why no aid is allowed". The truck looks like this


Click here for the full 610x777 image.

It appears to be relatively new, not on Snopes yet. I found a few people saying this is an old picture with an incorrect explanation but can't find proof yet. Any help?

euphronius posted:

The sign in the background says "hotel".

Capsaicin posted:

This may not be the perfect thread to ask, but couldn't find one not in LF that would be suitable. All this poo poo about "the biggest tax hike in US history starting January 1st"....has any reputable news source reported on it? When I google, I can only find things on Freep like sites.

downout posted:

Who gets food stamps anymore? It's all on a food card that can only be spent on food. For the most part this "trade food stamps for $.75 on the dollar for cash" thing doesn't happen easily anymore. This sort of scam is near non-existant.

Strudel Man posted:

It's referring to the natural expiration of Bush's tax cuts. In 1999, the top marginal tax rate was 39.6% on everything over $283,150; for 2009, it's 35% on everything over $372,950. If the cuts are not extended, we will return to a 39.6% top marginal rate in 2011, though I'm not entirely sure at what point that rate will then kick in.

edit: Guess it'll be 39.6% on everything over $375,700. There's no difference in the four lowest marginal rates - the expiration should primarily affect the upper and upper-middle class.

Ruckby posted:

I'm trying to convince someone that income tax rates actually didn't "skyrocket withing six months of Obama's taking office". Is there a government site or something that lists marginal tax rates/brackets for the last ten years or so?

Deteriorata posted:

Taxes went down when Obama took office. 1/3 of the stimulus bill was tax cuts.

Ruckby posted:

I'm trying to convince someone that income tax rates actually didn't "skyrocket withing six months of Obama's taking office". Is there a government site or something that lists marginal tax rates/brackets for the last ten years or so?

Ruckby posted:

Yeah, I know. I was just looking for a simple table that somebody without much analytical skill could understand.

downout posted:

Who gets food stamps anymore? It's all on a food card that can only be spent on food. For the most part this "trade food stamps for $.75 on the dollar for cash" thing doesn't happen easily anymore. This sort of scam is near non-existant.

Deteriorata posted:

http://www.moneybluebook.com/2009-federal-income-tax-brackets-official-irs-tax-rates/
http://www.moneybluebook.com/2010-federal-income-tax-brackets-irs-tax-rates/

The limits for the brackets went up, which means that more income got taxed at lower levels - which means that taxes went down.

quote:

Subject: CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?!

In the wake of Sept. 11, an increasing number of California public school students must attend an intensive three-week course on Islam, reports ASSIST News Service.

The course mandates that seventh-graders learn the tenets of Islam, study the important figures of the faith, wear a robe, adopt a Muslim name and stage their own jihad. Adding to this apparent hypocrisy, reports ANS, students must memorize many verses in the Koran, are taught to pray "in the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful" and are instructed to chant, "Praise to Allah, Lord of Creation."

"We could never teach Christianity like this," one outraged parent told ANS.

Elizabeth Christina Lemings, a teacher in the Byron, Calif., Union School District, was unaware of the course until her seventh-grade son brought home the handouts. Obtained by ANS, the handouts include a history of Islam and the life of Mohammad, its founder. There are 25 Islamic terms that must be memorized, six Islamic (Arabic) phrases, 20 Islamic proverbs to learn along with the Five Pillars of Faith and 10 key Islamic prophets and disciples to be studied.

"We can't even mention the name of Jesus in the public schools," Lemings laments, "but ... they teach Islam as the true religion, and students are taught about Islam and how to pray to Allah. Can you imagine the barrage of lawsuits and problems we would have from the ACLU if Christianity were taught in the public schools, and if we tried to teach about the contributions of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and the Apostle Paul? But when it comes to furthering the Islamic religion in the public schools, there is not one word from the ACLU, People for the American Way or anybody else. This is hypocrisy."

ANS reports that students are to pretend that they are Muslims, wear Muslim clothing to school, stage their own jihad via a dice game and pick out a Muslim name (to replace their own) from a list of 30.

When asked what they thought about the course, students described it as "fun," while others described Islam as "a pretty culture." Joseph Lemings, 12, told ANS, "the jihad was like playing a video game."

The "fun" description disturbs Elizabeth Lemings, who sees the course as a tool, not only to engender sympathy and support for the Muslim cause, but for recruitment.

"This is not just a class of history of examining culture," she said. "This course is entirely too specific. It is more about indoctrination."

Nancy Castro, principal of Intermediate-Excelsior School of Byron, told ANS that the Islam course (included within "History of Culture") reflects California educational standards. Castro maintains the course "is not religion, but ancient culture and history. We do not endorse any religion; we just make students aware." Castro further emphasized the course textbook is in use throughout California.

The textbook used for the Islamic course, "Across The Centuries," is published by Houghton-Mifflin and has been adopted by the California school system. In it, according to ANS, Islam is presented broadly in a completely positive manner, whereas the limited references to Christianity are "shown in a negative light, with events such as the Inquisition, and the Salem witch hunts highlighted in bold, black type." ANS notes the portrayal of Islam leaves out word of "the wars, massacres, cruelties against Christians and other non-Muslims that Islam has consistently perpetrated over the centuries."

Asked if there was any response from parents about the Islam course, Castro told ANS, "Oh, a couple of parents called to express concerns, three to be exact."

Ruckby posted:

Perfect, thanks. I just hope I don't get "of course the IRS isn't going to tell you taxes went up, they want you to drink the kool aid!"


Content:

nm posted:

"Pssst, I'll buy that cart of groceries for you for $.75 on the dollar."

downout posted:

I understand this can be done. I was thinking more of when I saw people buying drugs, etc with food stamps. From all the information I could find, when the food stamp program moved to the card there was a fairly decent drop in food assistance fraud. Depending on the source it was anywhere from 30 - 60%. Either way it's a bullshit talking point because the occurrence isn't as common as some try to claim, and the amount of money being discussed is a drop in the bucket when compared to the many other orifices taxpayers bleed money.

Ruckby posted:

Content:

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The faulty textbook, Across the Centuries, has more than its share of deceit. It is stated that Islam, Judaism and Christianity share in common the belief in one god. This is a half-truth, which is the worst kind of lie. Christianity and Judaism worship one God, the God of Abraham. Islam worships one god named Allah. This hook [sic] is misleading on the part of Houghton-Mifflin. The publisher apparently is attempting to legitimize Islam.

. . .

So why would the American Public School System and the politicians want to further the Islamic faith, push to have it become the One World Religion and nix Christianity?

Simple. Christians cannot be enslaved. Islam, an oppressive religion of control, cruelty and fear does enslave, which can keep people subdued. This is precisely what the future leaders of the One World Order want to achieve. And the misinformed, make nice, politically correct crowd seem eager to help them accomplish it.

But the greatest driving factor in all of this is money. There are the profiteers and politicians who stand to grow in unspeakable wealth and power by cooperating with the Arabs and finding favor by helping them and their pagan religion take control. They have no compunction in selling us out, and our freedom, to accomplish their goals. These greedy, self-serving investors stand salivating on both sides of the oil pump.