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Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

Ravenger posted:

If I had the rights I'd be publishing code details so the wider community could get a new graphics DLL done, or at least fix the old one, but unfortunately I don't. The rest of the team have long moved on, I doubt they would be as enthusiastic as me to get the game running well on modern machines, but you never know.

Anything you can do would be awesome. Even if it's just 'leaking' some of the source code (at least, the stuff pertaining to whatever is causing Nvidia cards to flip out) and letting the fans fix stuff. I doubt anyone would particularly care if a small part of the resources for a nine-year-old game appeared in the wild.

It just kinda sucks that the game is on GoG, but only ATI folks can play it reliably. Everything works fine here - perfectly, even. 60fps solid at all times on a Win7 64bit system.

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Lamacq
Jun 15, 2001

Breezeblock RIP

BeanBandit posted:

How the hell did I ever play Descent without a dual analog stick controller? Once you get it setup, it really is the perfect way to play these games.

Mind posting your config? Are you using DXX-Rebirth? I've been a little frustrated with M+K control of Descent 1 but now that I just bought a 360 controller (why did I wait this long???) I'd like to try Descent again.

BeanBandit
Mar 15, 2001

Beanbandit?
Son of a bitch!

Lamacq posted:

Mind posting your config? Are you using DXX-Rebirth? I've been a little frustrated with M+K control of Descent 1 but now that I just bought a 360 controller (why did I wait this long???) I'd like to try Descent again.

Well, my setup is a little convoluted. I use a USB->PS2 controller adapter and have the left analog stick mapped to "slide" (strafe) up, down, left, and right. The right analog stick controls pitch and turning.

Then, I use Joy2Key to map the other buttons. I use L1/R1 for forward and reverse, L2/R2 for primary and secondary fire, and three of the the four face buttons for rear view, flare, and bomb. This leaves the D-pad for anything else you might want. I use D-pad L/R for rolling.

Right now, I'm using vanilla Descent. I'll check out Rebirth.

Smegma Enigma
Mar 7, 2006

[T-2:25] Overwhelming sense of well-being and euphoria
So, I'm not really sure where else to ask this...any tips or must-have patches for Planescape: Torment? I'm playing it for the first time on a Win7 netbook and I'm hoping it works out of the box.

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?

BeanBandit posted:

How the hell did I ever play Descent without a dual analog stick controller? Once you get it setup, it really is the perfect way to play these games.

As opposed to keyboard only? Sure. I played with lots of people who were extremely good with a keyboard/mouse setup, but the most popular was a flightstick with twist and a hat switch, which I would contend is actually the perfect way to play these games.

I personally used a flight stick and bound the pinky button to toggle from yaw to roll on the X axis in the long, long ago... but I have a twisting stick now.

BeanBandit
Mar 15, 2001

Beanbandit?
Son of a bitch!

Essobie posted:

As opposed to keyboard only? Sure. I played with lots of people who were extremely good with a keyboard/mouse setup, but the most popular was a flightstick with twist and a hat switch, which I would contend is actually the perfect way to play these games.

I personally used a flight stick and bound the pinky button to toggle from yaw to roll on the X axis in the long, long ago... but I have a twisting stick now.

I've played with that setup, and the only thing it leaves out is roll. Having a toggle switch like you mentioned is probably the best way to handle it, but my flight stick didn't have anything like that.

When I originally played Descent, I was really into flight sims, and I had a full Thrustmaster throttle and stick setup. Man, that was great for Descent, TIE Fighter, Mechwarrior 2...

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Smegma Enigma posted:

So, I'm not really sure where else to ask this...any tips or must-have patches for Planescape: Torment? I'm playing it for the first time on a Win7 netbook and I'm hoping it works out of the box.

I never used any fan patches for PS:T, not even sure they exist. But I also didn't encounter any bugs with it, either, just using the last official patch. However I last played it on an XP 32bit system. I did have a buddy who ran it fine with WINE on a Linux system, too.

BeanBandit
Mar 15, 2001

Beanbandit?
Son of a bitch!

BeanBandit posted:

Right now, I'm using vanilla Descent. I'll check out Rebirth.

Wow, okay, I really should have downloaded Rebirth from the beginning. I expected it to be a hassle to install and configure, but I just copied two files from the Descent install over and was up and running. It's very easy to setup a dual analog controller with Rebirth. No need for Joy2Key.

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?

BeanBandit posted:

Wow, okay, I really should have downloaded Rebirth from the beginning. I expected it to be a hassle to install and configure, but I just copied two files from the Descent install over and was up and running. It's very easy to setup a dual analog controller with Rebirth. No need for Joy2Key.

There are two graphical updates to Descent and Descent 2 out.... there's Rebirth and there's D2X-XL. Apparently they were going to join forces but there was a giant fallout between the two heads of their projects. From reading a bit about it it looks like both of them are your average abrasive hobbyist programmers.

I never really tried Rebirth, but D2X-XL is pretty nice. Apparently the map in D2X-XL is by far superior to Rebirth's... but again, I've never bothered trying Rebirth. I probably will at some point.

I'm mainly posting this to let you know there are options.

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1
Badass! I won another free game. Just from a forum post (gently caress twitter :) )

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1
Picked up Two Worlds for the PC, since I had it for the sexbox and rumor has it that it might be better to play on the PC. Rumor has it that the manual is a riot to read. I can't wait to fire this up again. Rumor has it that the voice acting is terrible, verily.

Bats
Sep 6, 2003

With great power comes great responsiblity...TO ROCK OUT!

glug posted:

Picked up Two Worlds for the PC, since I had it for the sexbox and rumor has it that it might be better to play on the PC. Rumor has it that the manual is a riot to read. I can't wait to fire this up again. Rumor has it that the voice acting is terrible, verily.

Yae verily tis not a rumor mine good sir. the taint is strong with this game, forsooth.

(I butchered that, but it's still better than what you get ingame... fun as hell game tho)

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Ah, bandits! (when a dragon comes scrolling up)

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1
Seriously, I'm skimming the manual at work because I'm getting sick of reading that everything is a rumor. Just tell me there are snakes in the game. Don't tell me rumor has it that they are slithery.

Serious Michael
Oct 13, 2007

Is only joking.
I've been playing a lot of Shogo lately. The on-foot missions are fun, but challenging, quick-save fests, while the robot missions are loving awesome, it's the perfect balance because just when I get tired of having to be careful as a little human, they put me in a big robot and let me blow up everything.

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

GreenNight posted:

Ah, bandits! (when a dragon comes scrolling up)

I love when he yells like "DIE YOU BASTARDS!!!!" when you kill a little rabbit.

Master_Odin
Apr 15, 2010

My spear never misses its mark...

ladies

glug posted:

Picked up Two Worlds for the PC, since I had it for the sexbox and rumor has it that it might be better to play on the PC. Rumor has it that the manual is a riot to read. I can't wait to fire this up again. Rumor has it that the voice acting is terrible, verily.
The voice acting is one of the best parts of the game! "drip drip drip!"

Serious Michael
Oct 13, 2007

Is only joking.
gently caress. The worst tragedy ever: I'm at the final mission of Shogo and it keeps crashing, after I kill the guy on the elevator and it goes to load the next part.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Don't feel like spending $40 on the Rebellion Pack promo, since I own Evil Genius already and most of it is just strategy game sequels, but I do want to pick up a couple games. If I were to choose one from each of their series(Lords of, Ground Control and Empire Earth), which would be my best bets?

Spincut
Jan 14, 2008

Oh! OSHA gonna make you serve time!
'Cause you an occupational hazard tonight.
Just from what I've heard, Empire Earth 1 seems like the best in the series, but take that with a grain of salt, as I don't have any first-hand experience to back that up.

Also, from what I've played (some first-hand experience here) Lords of Magic and Lords of the Realm are very different games. Lords of Magic is kind of like Heroes of Might and Magic while Lords of the Realm is more of an empire-building strategy game.

Don't really know anything about the Ground Control series, though.

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades
I QA tested on like 4 of those games, lol. But this pack is pretty strange, lots of good games for the price of one however. Worth a shot if you want some good titles kicking around. Can't be any more damaging to the wallet then the steam sale.

Bats
Sep 6, 2003

With great power comes great responsiblity...TO ROCK OUT!
I've dabbled with Empire Earth 1 & 2 and uh.. I didn't really get far because there was not really much in them that grabbed my interest in any way. They may be good games, but they failed the "Keep Bats interested for the first hour or he's going to uninstall you" test.

Captain Scandinaiva
Mar 29, 2010



I've haven't played either of the Ground Control's, but I've heard 1 is the better. It's tactical strategy, like World in Conflict, while 2 is a traditional RTS.

Concerning Empire Earth, 2 has the better game mechanics I'd say. More streamlined, a better research system, a citizen manager and with a border system similar to Rise of Nations. But 1 has the better campaign; goofy voices and original, semi-historical, missions. 3 I haven't played but reviews make it out to be abyssmal.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Captain Scandinaiva posted:

I've haven't played either of the Ground Control's, but I've heard 1 is the better. It's tactical strategy, like World in Conflict, while 2 is a traditional RTS.


World in Conflict is closer to 2 than it is to 1, but it takes all the lessons from what made 2 worse than 1 and applies them to make a better game all round.

I remember 1 must have been one of the very first strategy games that had missions where you had an AI ally who would actually do stuff in a convincing way.

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
Has anyone played Sanitarium? How long is it?

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008
:dukedog:
Wasn't the original ground control released for free at some point in time? I remember seeing it on fileplanet or something a few years back.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Yeah, when reading up on them I noticed that. Ended up going with Lords of Magic, EE1 and GC2. Also if you don't own Evil Genius, buy it, it's a wonderful base building game that absolutely oozes charm.

Big Sean
Jan 18, 2010
Oh yikes but if you do get evil genius make sure to get the fan patch. It fixes some important bugs, but more importantly it raises the minion cap to 150. The default of 100 makes for a much more tedious than necessary game, and imo ruins what really is a very fun game.

Also, gently caress Jet Chan.

(And Dirk Masters)

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Big Sean posted:

Oh yikes but if you do get evil genius make sure to get the fan patch. It fixes some important bugs, but more importantly it raises the minion cap to 150. The default of 100 makes for a much more tedious than necessary game, and imo ruins what really is a very fun game.

Also, gently caress Jet Chan.

(And Dirk Masters)

Actually raising the minion cap is really easy to do on your own. You just have to modify a value in an XML file. You can set it to whatever you want (though I don't recommend more than 200).

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Evil Genius is honestly more of a $6 old game at this point. I couldn't pull the trigger at $5 during the Steam sale, mostly because I've already played the hell out of it and would only play it for another hour or two before getting bored.

It's a really cool concept, and I love base building games like that, but it's pretty heavily flawed and would probably be better with a more randomized sandbox mode. Still, it is fun if you like the genre.

As far as I know, it's the last game of its kind. Is there any other game that's like it that has come out since then, and is any good?

jvempire
May 10, 2009

Big Sean posted:

Oh yikes but if you do get evil genius make sure to get the fan patch. It fixes some important bugs, but more importantly it raises the minion cap to 150. The default of 100 makes for a much more tedious than necessary game, and imo ruins what really is a very fun game.

Also, gently caress Jet Chan.

(And Dirk Masters)
For reference he's talking about this and it adds more than just a minion cap!:
http://www.strategyplanet.com/evilgenius/TheGame/mod_unofficialpatch.asp

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

jvempire posted:

For reference he's talking about this and it adds more than just a minion cap!:
http://www.strategyplanet.com/evilgenius/TheGame/mod_unofficialpatch.asp

The English in that change list is atrocious. None of the bad spelling leaks into the game, does it?

jvempire
May 10, 2009

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

The English in that change list is atrocious. None of the bad spelling leaks into the game, does it?
Well the fixes they add allow you to do stuff that is very helpful (i.e. All gun cabinates can now be built in the barracks, Hotel casino, lounge and lobby can now be built inside the base, etc) So no worries on spelling.

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.
Since this is the closest thing there is to a Heroes of Might and Magic thread, I thought I'd post this here.

Some of you may know that Heroes 4 doesn't play nice with Vista - as in, you get a blue screen if you try to run it. However, I just found out yesterday that if you have Vista Service Pack 2 installed, Heroes 4 will install and run just fine. I confirmed it myself.

Now back to trying to recreate my knight who could take out scores of black dragons before dying.

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

As far as I know, it's the last game of its kind. Is there any other game that's like it that has come out since then, and is any good?

Since then? Not really. Before then? Startopia, which has aged fantastically (it could pass for a fairly large-scale indie release these days - only thing it really lacks is native widescreen) and is easily the best game in its genre.

I picked up a copy for £2 a while back (it's dirt cheap everywhere - it was part of the Sold Out super-budget range), and it's fantastic. It took Dungeon Keeper, and made it complete. It also bombed, and the studio behind it sank without a trace.

gently caress.

Dominic White fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jul 11, 2010

glug
Mar 12, 2004

JON JONES APOLOGIST #1
I've got a two-worlds question.

I used the bonus code to get a ludicrously overpowered loving sword. I'm now WELL into the game, just over level 30, and I can't replace it.

The sword lists at something like 50-150 damage, with 100 fire damage. On my character screen, it says I'm doing over 6000 slashing and 2000 fire. If I switch to a weapon with say.. 200-500 slashing and put like 1000 spirit damage on it.. I get: 2500 slashing and 1000 spirit with all of my buffs.

Basically, why the gently caress is this pre-order sword broken as poo poo, making all other weapons and elemental powerups completely useless? Am I reading this wrong?

Here it is:



Took a random weapon in my inventory. Notice how all of the damage is listed as much higher, but comes out much lower.

glug fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 11, 2010

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Dominic White posted:

Since then? Not really. Before then? Startopia, which has aged fantastically (it could pass for a fairly large-scale indie release these days - only thing it really lacks is native widescreen) and is easily the best game in its genre.

I picked up a copy for £2 a while back (it's dirt cheap everywhere - it was part of the Sold Out super-budget range), and it's fantastic. It took Dungeon Keeper, and made it complete. It also bombed, and the studio behind it sank without a trace.

gently caress.

Startopia is so good, I just wish that the studio had had more time to develop a better campaign. As it is, the campaign is mainly training for the main game, with a 'full' challenge finally available as the last mission: facing off against 3 other station administrators for control of a single station. I really wish that Muckyfoot had had more time and capital to complete their game. It would easily pass as 'hard casual' in these modern times.

I like this game so much, I'm tempted to zip it up and create a torrent, just so that others can enjoy it. I won't, of course, but this is a game that deserves the limited immortality that comes with being illicitly copied from PC to PC: played, archived, shared, forgotten, then remembered again. Wow, they made PC games like these? Why don't they still do this instead of cranking out space marine clones?

For my part, I picked this game up in the BIG BOX (wish I still had it) at a local Half Price Books, at about five bucks. Total steal.

This game vastly deserves the GOG.com treatment, with soundtrack, back story, and wallpapers.

What's in this room over here?

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 12, 2010

SSJ Reeko
Nov 4, 2009

glug posted:


Basically, why the gently caress is this pre-order sword broken as poo poo, making all other weapons and elemental powerups completely useless? Am I reading this wrong?


That's just how it is. You will never find a better weapon I believe, as It's without a doubt the best sword and might be the most powerful weapon overall. It has a bunch of crazy hidden stats that make it amazingly broken. All you can do is accept that you have the best weapon in the game or just not use it. None of the other pre-order items are as good. I personally put it in a chest after seeing it dealt 5000 damage compared to the 2500 my strongest weapon had. One of the good things the game does is give you a lot of new equipment to change out and try for variety, and simple having the best thing at the middle/start of the game kinda ruins that.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Unfortunately, I'm having big time issues with Startopia in Win 7 x64. I was aware of it, and indeed tried it, but there's some graphical glitching. The menu freaks out and glitches all over. It's fine in-game until you try to lay down a building, and that glitches the graphics even more.

Although, I will say that the Startopia devs didn't vanish completely without a trace. Mucky Foot was founded by ex bullfrog guys, after it was bought by EA. They left at around the same time as Molyneux I think, but went in a different direction. After Mucky Foot closed, they all went and joined up with Lionhead, and ended up making The Movies. Now, who knows what they're doing? probably working on Fable 3 or something.

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Jul 12, 2010

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Slingback78
Oct 17, 2008

Jack's Flow posted:

Has anyone played Sanitarium? How long is it?

Depends if you're doing it with or without a hint guide handy. With, and taking your time to absorb the atmosphere...5-7 hours, ish. Without, not too much more, the puzzle logic is relatively sound, and only two or three puzzles involve any sort of reflexes.

I'd recommend it. The voice acting was found to be a bit painful back in it's day, but the atmosphere is wonderfully creepy. Very creative settings. Some puzzles are tricky and/or non-logical, so don't feel bad about finding a guide.

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