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Question for all the reserve/national guard guys. I'm under the impression that retirement from the guard is done in points. And over so many years you get to many points and that determines your eligibility or pay when retiring? What happens to all of those guys who go from active to guard, are they somehow better off for having more service than all of the guys who did just 2 to 3 days a month and 2 weeks a year?
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x2 on that question. I'm 6 and a half years AD, going Guard next month most likely.
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Jul 2, 2010 19:44
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Okay, I'm going to give this a shot. The basic deal is this: you get one point for every UTA you do. One full day of work is two UTAs, hence two points earned. You need a minimum of fifty points per year plus you need to have performed "in a satisfactory manner", ie no AWOL or NJPs, in order for a year of service to count as "good". Twenty "good" years of service means you can retire. I'm pretty sure you need a minimum amount of points for retirement in addition to the 20 "good" years. If you retire at 20 years, your half pay is based off of your drill pay and payment starts at age 60. If you retire at age 60, you get the regular 3-year average off of the pay charts that active duty gets. I'm not really sure how it works out for guys coming off of active- you can ask your Readiness NCO about points transfer. I did about a six month stint for active duty training last year, and I received 158 points before the fiscal year cut off- it looks like about a point per day, but your mileage may vary. About.com has a pretty good article about it here: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/reserveretirmentpay/a/reserveretire.htm
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Jul 2, 2010 19:59
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 How do I get out of this chickenshit outfit?
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Jul 2, 2010 20:05
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Full Battle Rattle posted:
Here's a razor and a Nine Inch Nails album, go figure it out.
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Jul 2, 2010 20:09
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I plan on seeing a recruiter as soon as I can get my dumb car fixed, but I'm moving about 4 hours away from where I currently live at the end of July. Is it going to be a huge pain in the rear end to deal with a recruiter that far away? Will I be able to get most of my poo poo done before I move and then just have fax him stuff after I move? I dont really want to have to drive back and forth more than once.
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Jul 2, 2010 22:41
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If someone enlists as a Healthcare Specialist in the Army (68W), where do they typically wind up serving?
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Jul 3, 2010 01:11
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Iron Squid posted:If someone enlists as a Healthcare Specialist in the Army (68W), where do they typically wind up serving? Bro, everyone been telling me that 68W can go literally anywhere, anywhere where the army needs them.
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Jul 3, 2010 01:31
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25 lighters posted:Bro, everyone been telling me that 68W can go literally anywhere, anywhere where the army needs them. Would a 68W most likely walk along side combat troops, or am I in a lovely little post in some Southern town telling recruits to spread 'em?
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Jul 3, 2010 01:32
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Iron Squid posted:Would a 68W most likely walk along side combat troops, or am I in a lovely little post in some Southern town telling recruits to spread 'em? If the Army needs you with combat troops they will put you there, if they need you in the south telling recruits to spread, they will put you there also. I ain't a 68W, but people here, and my recruiter been telling me that damned same answer no matter how I ask. :P
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Jul 3, 2010 02:07
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Sarkazm posted:On board ships, the Navy uses Boatswain pipes to signal certain events such as watch turnover, reveille, flight quarters and, wait for it..... Chow. And it would be a pleasant experience for some of the other members on this forum to go find out truly how annoying the 1600 Chow Pipe is. Jesus gently caress, I'm getting an earbleed just thinking about it.
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Jul 3, 2010 02:09
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Iron Squid posted:Would a 68W most likely walk along side combat troops, or am I in a lovely little post in some Southern town telling recruits to spread 'em? Either or, man. You can be running along with 11B's, being a heart breaker/life taker, or you can be chillin with the sick call rangers, shoving motrin down their throats and counting tongue depressors. It's really all depending on where you go, and which company you get put into.
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Jul 3, 2010 14:14
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AB posted:Here's a razor and a Nine Inch Nails album, go figure it out.  I got my eye on you, AB.
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Jul 4, 2010 04:59
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So what do Combat Engineers (21B) do day-to-day? Also, what's their basic training like?
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Jul 4, 2010 14:31
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Iron Squid posted:So what do Combat Engineers (21B) do day-to-day? Also, what's their basic training like? Phantom Spaceman is a 21A...he might be able to help you out. His contact info is listed over in the Military Sponsor/Info thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3317301&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post378924843
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Jul 4, 2010 21:05
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iyaayas01 posted:Phantom Spaceman is a 21A...he might be able to help you out. His contact info is listed over in the Military Sponsor/Info thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3317301&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post378924843 Thanks, I'll send him a PM. So, here's a slightly-related story. I was talking to a friend/co-worker a few days ago, and mentioned that I was thinking of joining the Guard. He mentioned that he was also thinking of doing something military-ish. Awesome, I thought, especially when Combat Engineering was on his short-list of possible MOS' to do, just like mine! Since we're both in our late 30s and good friends, I could do a lot worse than have us enlist together, right? Except he confesses he's not 100% sure he can get in. Why? Because apparently, twenty years ago he was in the Army and never made it through Basic. Apparently his father, who was an Army recruiter at the time was very much opposed to him enlisting. Dad did two tours in Vietnam and didn't want son to go through the same thing he did. After a week or two, when the first Gulf War was getting big, his father told him that if he left the military, his dad would pay for his schooling! So, he trusted his dad and convinced whomever he has to convince that he was suicidal. (The irony is that his dad never paid for his schooling.) Anyways, I was really shocked to hear this, because my friend is one of the coolest, most mellow people I work with. We work as line cooks, and its an incredibly stressful job, yet I've never seen him lose his cool. So I kinda believe him when he says he's not the suicidal type. He said he's long been irritated that he quit on something that he really wanted to do, which is his motivation to try and reenlist. That, and like me, he's kinda bored with work. He thinks he can convince someone that his departure from the military was a youthful error, caused by putting faith in his dad. While I feel really bad for the guy, and he is exactly the kinda dude I'd want to be enlisted with, I'm 100% sure that there is literally no waiver on Earth that he can get that will let any branch of service let him reenlist. If anyone knows otherwise, I'd love to hear about it. Otherwise, its a tough break for my friend. 
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Jul 5, 2010 00:12
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Iron Squid posted:Thanks, I'll send him a PM. It depends on the Re-enlistment Elligiblity code on the paperwork when he processed out. If he got a 1 or 2, he's fine. If he got a 3, he needs a waiver, and will have much, much less bargaining power when determining his enlistment contract. If he got a 4, he's done with the military forever.
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Jul 5, 2010 00:59
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I have another one, as I continue to wait for the MOS I want to open up. Are there particular enlisted MOSes that are good or bad in terms of making you a better officer and/or are just generally better with that goal in mind? ie, relatively more free time, in a position to impress higher ups, transferable skills, and so on? Also, are there any tricks to getting a specific MOS, or pretty much just keep bothering the recruiter until it opens up? Edit: first question is basically just exploratory, I'm not planning to pick an MOS based on getting to be an officer, I'd just finish college if that were my only goal. Trying to determine pros and cons/sate my curiosity. Comradephate fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jul 8, 2010 |
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Jul 8, 2010 07:05
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Comradephate posted:
Just try to wait it out. Have your recruiter query the REQUEST system daily to see if the MOS you want comes open.
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Jul 8, 2010 14:35
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I'm loving sick of dealing with landlords. Due to military orders, I moved out of my place on June 28. She calls me yesterday to tell me she's only giving me 750 of my 1000 dollar security deposit. Here's why she said she was doing that: 1. I left a bag of charcoal behind, a case of unopened drinking water, some scotchguard, and cleaning supplies (broom, swifter, and then maybe a trashbags worth of windex and misc cleaning supplies) that I figured they could use. She said she can't just throw away the scotchguard because it's hazmat and needs to be disposed of properly. The cleaning supplies and charcoal she says she has no use for and has to get rid of them (the condos we live in have dumpsters right around the corner.) 2. The condo had a sliding glass door that had blinds that we took off and I stowed them up in the attic. I forgot to put them back up so she says she needs to hire someone to do that ( which involves going and getting them out of the attic and hanging them up, maybe 15 minutes total?) because her husband and her can't. He's disabled and she says she sprained her wrist this week. I should have thrown away the poo poo but i was thinking they could use it. When she told me the amount I told her I want an itemized breakdown of the $250 since it sounds like a pretty arbitrary and high number to me. What do you guys think? she said she will look into the costs and get back to me. Im just worried shes going to find the most expensive guy that will charge $400 and we'll be that much more hosed. It just sucks that I'm in a different state so it's not like I can just run over there and fix it all in about ten minutes. All that happened yesterday when i called her was I said the hazmat can be disposed of at local schools throughout the year(even though I know she shouldn't have to be responsible for that.) and that $250 seems like a pretty arbitrary number to me and I would like an itemized breakdown, which she said she would look into and get back to me. Today I really just don't wanna wait for my money anymore and am thinking of calling her up, bargaining with her to drop the cost to $200 and leaving it at that. I'm saying this because I'll be shocked if she has the list done already...even though she should have had one made up prior to coming up with the $250 charge. I understand that I should have disposed of the cleaning materials in hindsight and should have hung the blinds, it's just that the amount she wants seems excessive. Edit: another thing is that my PCS came up kind of quick. I was only able to give her two weeks notice of leaving the place. Because of this, I had already paid for july's rent. SO, she owes me $1000 in rent and the security deposit back. If anything, I'll at least tell her to send the rent for 1000 out to me now. Any other advice? Should I bother fighting this, should I try and bargain, or should I just call her and give in? It sucks having to do this over the phone since I'm in a different state. nwin fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 8, 2010 |
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Jul 8, 2010 16:16
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Landlords will do all that they can to make some money. I spent days making sure my apartment was spotless when I moved out but yet it still required 3 hours of cleaning.
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Jul 8, 2010 17:51
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This question may be dumb as hell, but here goes. I just got my BS in molecular biology/ microbiology and I am tempted to join the Army. My dad retired as a major in the national guard after 20+ yrs in the army and I always thought about it. The medical service corps officer (67B Laboratory sciences) is what I would want to do. The goarmy website tells me this: quote:You must be a degreed professional in your area of specialty in the Medical Service Corps. and this: quote:As an Army Medical Department (AMEDD) Officer, you will not participate in the Basic Training or Boot Camp; instead, you'll attend an Officer Basic Leadership Course (OBLC), a basic orientation course to the Army Health Care system, Army doctrine, and basic soldier and leader skills. Can I join as a 67B with only an undergraduate degree in the field, or do I need a graduate degree? And do you join without attending boot camp? That just seems like a rip off. I'd feel like I was missing something... Anyways, I'm going to ask my dad these questions as well as a recruiter, but I get the feeling the recruiter would be pushier and wouldn't explain all the details. e: I guess I need a MS to qualify. Damnit. quote:Have a minimum of a master's degree to fulfill clinical duties if you'll be pursuing either biochemistry or microbiology as a career specialty Cacafuego fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jul 9, 2010 |
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Jul 9, 2010 04:05
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Comradephate posted:I have another one, as I continue to wait for the MOS I want to open up. If you want to be Chief of Staff, go infantry. Other than that, if you wanna be a good officer, work on your leadership and people skills, do as much research as you can, pick a career field you're interested in, then do your best to become a subject matter expert in it. Good officers (and bad) come from every MOS and commissioning source (ie, West Point, OCS, prior service).
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Jul 9, 2010 05:06
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What is the best way to go about getting a BA while enlisted? I've got 90ish credit hours from a California State school, although I know not all of it will transfer. With the current stage of training I'm in a lot of free time here at Ft. Bragg and I now there are some colleges around. I've started enrollment with GoArmyEd, is that the right path? Anything I should be trying to avoid?
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Jul 9, 2010 22:07
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The Antipop posted:Can I join as a 67B with only an undergraduate degree in the field, or do I need a graduate degree? And do you join without attending boot camp? That just seems like a rip off. I'd feel like I was missing something... nope, no basic for doctors, so I'd imagine it'd be the same for nurses/lab officers. Sucks you need a MS to get in. Have you started at all? Are you close to finishing? Because if so, it'd be an awesome thing for your resume when you got out. If you got out.
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Jul 10, 2010 00:47
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I'm an O-1 in a non-armed service (US public health service) and I have some questions about officer benefits. I don't have a CAC card yet (I'm in a rural as gently caress area, nearest base is about an hour and a half away), but I am hoping to get one the next time I visit my parents. If anyone has e-mail or skype to chat on, and could help me with some of my questions, I'd really appreciate it. I am particularly interested in federal credit unions (PenFed?) and some other misc. poo poo. I know all about my healthcare and pay and stuff, but being a non-armed forces member I am ignorant of any on base benefits such as commissaries or recreational opportunities. You can e-mail me at warcraft3@gmail.com
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Jul 10, 2010 01:08
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MaakHatt posted:I'm an O-1 in a non-armed service (US public health service) and I have some questions about officer benefits. I don't have a CAC card yet (I'm in a rural as gently caress area, nearest base is about an hour and a half away), but I am hoping to get one the next time I visit my parents. That is an awesome email address.
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Jul 10, 2010 01:40
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Figured I'd ask again since I got my car fixed. Basically, on the 30th of July I'll be moving out of my current apartment and moving about 4 hours away. My question is should I see a recruiter in this town or just wait until I move? I dont want to have to drive back to sort out anything or fill out paperwork. Will I be able to get everything I need done in this time frame? My plan is on enlisting with the army, if that matters.
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Jul 10, 2010 03:32
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Too Poetic posted:I dont want to have to drive back to sort out anything or fill out paperwork. Will I be able to get everything I need done in this time frame? This may not apply to you, but I am fairly certain that I never signed a lick of paper at a recruiting office. Everything was done at MEPS.
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Jul 10, 2010 03:35
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I had a bout of Gastroitis(SP?) this past spring. It was a stomach problem that I had to go to the ER to treat. They just told me to take some stomach medicine. And of course, my Prostate infection I had a few summers ago. Should I get these documented or just lie about it?
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Jul 10, 2010 21:56
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Boo This Man posted:I had a bout of Gastroitis(SP?) this past spring. It was a stomach problem that I had to go to the ER to treat. They just told me to take some stomach medicine. And of course, my Prostate infection I had a few summers ago. Should I get these documented or just lie about it? Raise your hand if you've dealt with Gastroenteritis whilst deployed (*85% of GiP raises hands*)! We had 2 runs of that poo poo last cruise. Its onset can be predicted like clock work. So yea, that isn't a big deal. Don't know about the prostate thing though.
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Jul 10, 2010 23:50
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2 questions for you guys: 1. I'm waiting to get paperwork back from MEPS for the Army, but I'm trying to start getting in better shape and stuff already. I run 3+ miles a couple times a week, ride my bike, and go to the gym. Instead of doing weights, would something like P90X help me out for basic more? I'm friends with a lady at work and her husband was an Army Master Fitness instructor, and he said to reduce weight and start doing more reps to build up your endurance. Is this a good plan, or would something else work better? 2. Can someone walk me through the differences in a day between an officer and an enlisted person? I'm almost done with my degree, so I'm thinking the officer route, but I hear it's just tons of sitting around doing paperwork. Can anyone help me out here? Also, I know there's going to be a ton of funny replies to this question, but a few serious ones would be great, too. Thanks!
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Jul 12, 2010 21:08
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Raise your hand if you've dealt with Gastroenteritis whilst deployed (*85% of GiP raises hands*)! We had 2 runs of that poo poo last cruise. Its onset can be predicted like clock work. The Gastroenteritis was a trip to the emergency room. However, the prostate infection, I went to the ER and then an actual doctor visit. Should I not tell the doctor at MEPS or just document it?
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Jul 13, 2010 19:42
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10 Beers posted:2 questions for you guys: Keep running, and work on your push-ups and sit-ups. You're over thinking it if you're trying to knock out some P90X or crazy work-outs. You have a good chance of getting stuck doing paperwork as an enlisted. Honestly you should take a hint from the half dozen threads, and hundreds of posts (including the one with the very clear title.) If you're going to join the military and have a degree or are going to soon have one JOIN AS AN OFFICER. Its really simple and trying to justify enlisting instead is retarded. Officers get paid more and treated better. If you kick rear end you'll do the kind of work you want and it'll kick rear end. If you suck your job will suck.
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Jul 14, 2010 01:27
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There are probably only 2 or 3 reasons to ever go enlisted over officer if you have a degree, and the only one I can think of is that you couldn't go officer because you weren't selected for OCS (which is fair, having sheepskin does not equal automatic officer).
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Jul 14, 2010 03:15
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Quarterly Prophet posted:There are probably only 2 or 3 reasons to ever go enlisted over officer if you have a degree, and the only one I can think of is that you couldn't go officer because you weren't selected for OCS (which is fair, having sheepskin does not equal automatic officer). or if you payed for college on your own and you're getting the army to payoff your student loans.
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Jul 14, 2010 06:00
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What are some ballpark times to make e-7? I know it varies highly by service/mos/rating, but just for kicks. Army - 11B - 10 years Navy - BM - 12 years or whatever the guess is.
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Jul 14, 2010 16:59
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Ron Jeremy posted:What are some ballpark times to make e-7? I know it varies highly by service/mos/rating, but just for kicks. There is no real ballpark for E7 in the Army. Its completely out of hour hands and alost nonsensical sometimes. Also, the Army is not hurting to ranks of any kind right now, so each E7 board is coming out with smaller and smaller lists. Only the most competitive people are getting promoted. At least in 11B.
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Jul 14, 2010 18:22
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Also, if at basic training, they demand to see your civilian medical records, do you have to allow them? Or can you say no and let them threaten you with empty threats?
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Ron Jeremy posted:What are some ballpark times to make e-7? I know it varies highly by service/mos/rating, but just for kicks. The overall USAF average is 16 years to pin on MSgt (E-7.) I don't know if they keep stats by AFSC.
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