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A Nice Boy posted:Just wait till you get to Best Served Cold. There's a scene with a main character that will make you squirm. It should have been you.
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The first image of the rough UK cover for The Heroes has been released. Still scheduled for release on the 11th of January. I wonder just how terrible the US cover will be?
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Jul 17, 2010 13:44
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Another book? So soon? Will this mad man never stop?
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Jul 17, 2010 16:50
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John Charity Spring posted:The first image of the rough UK cover for The Heroes has been released. Still scheduled for release on the 11th of January. I order my books from bookdepository, so I always get the nice UK covers anyways.
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Jul 17, 2010 17:50
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Bummey posted:Another book? So soon? Will this mad man never stop? I pray not. Those fuckers GRRM and Rothfuss should takes notes.
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Jul 17, 2010 18:58
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John Charity Spring posted:The first image of the rough UK cover for The Heroes has been released. Still scheduled for release on the 11th of January. The versions I've purchased at Barnes and Noble are all the dope UK covers. Also, they've stopped selling the lovely versions of the US Malazan books, and are selling the insanely awesome UK ones. Same with Prince of Nothing. I'm thinking that they're finally starting to get a clue.
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Jul 17, 2010 19:53
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Went through the Trilogy and BSC again these last few weeks and I'm ready for more books with Logan , Glockta and Bayaz! I know that The Heroes is a standalone book so it probably won't have much on the wider picture in it but I'm incredibly hyped either way.
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Jul 17, 2010 23:14
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Kellanved posted:Went through the Trilogy and BSC again these last few weeks and I'm ready for more books with Logan , Glockta and Bayaz! Apparently it's going to have way more returning characters than BSC did. Black Dow, Shivers, Dogman, Kroy, more that I'm not thinking of...Plenty from the first trilogy. He basically said that the entire book takes place over four days in the north, one dicisive, ongoing battle that has tons of union and northmen.
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Jul 17, 2010 23:27
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A Nice Boy posted:Apparently it's going to have way more returning characters than BSC did. Wait, who's Kroy? Anyways I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Logen to show up.
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Jul 18, 2010 01:26
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Mr.48 posted:Anyways I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Logen to show up. If he shows up at all, I'm betting it's nothing more than a cameo at the very end, just enough to let us know that Logen is still alive.
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Jul 18, 2010 01:32
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Mr.48 posted:Wait, who's Kroy? One of the rival generals under Lord Marshal Burr. In LAoK he is promoted to Lord Marshal after both Burr and West die.
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Jul 18, 2010 03:49
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Ornamented Death posted:If he shows up at all, I'm betting it's nothing more than a cameo at the very end, just enough to let us know that Logen is still alive. Yeah, I got the imression from his last few lines of internal dialogue and such that he was pretty much saying "gently caress you" to the north and everything else. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if he went to find Ferro to help her gently caress poo poo up...the crap that happened after they parted seemed to harden him some.
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Jul 18, 2010 07:43
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Yadoppsi posted:One of the rival generals under Lord Marshal Burr. In LAoK he is promoted to Lord Marshal after both Burr and West die. Oh yeah, he was the really uptight infantry general right? Poulder or something was the other cavalry commander.
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Jul 18, 2010 07:46
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Mr.48 posted:Oh yeah, he was the really uptight infantry general right? Poulder or something was the other cavalry commander. Yeah... The two competed with each other and hated the poo poo out of each other until one of them died, which I thought was a nice touch.
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Jul 18, 2010 14:26
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I finished the trilogy, and I'm almost done with BSC. Last Argument of Kings ruined my week; never has so much wrist-slitting despair and frustration been seen outside a history book. The thing is, the only one I really feel bad about is poor Malacus. He died like a bitch in the first book, and what I thought was him developing into an interesting character was actually just an impostor. An important and very awesome impostor, but still.  At least things weren't quite so bad for Glotka and Ardee. I mean, they were dickish and psychotic, but I was just so glad that at least someone didn't end up having every single thing blow up in their face at the end. Besides, who in the book wasn't dickish and psychotic?Also, the only character I despise more than Bayaz is motherfucking Yoru Sulfur.  edit: whoopsie. sarsbar fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jul 25, 2010 |
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Jul 25, 2010 03:50
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sarsbar posted:I finished the trilogy, and I'm almost done with BSC. Last Argument of Kings ruined my week; never has so much wrist-slitting despair and frustration been seen outside a history book. Despising that first character is actually a pretty huge spoiler, when you think about it, for people just starting the series. But yeah...The ending is pretty rough. I like his stuff, but if his NEXT four books are nothing but awesome but also holy poo poo I want to kill myself, I'm not sure how much I can stick with. ;p
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Jul 25, 2010 08:41
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I read the last 100 or so pages of BSC last night, and it's probably okay to smile again, because Monza pretty much told Yoru to gently caress himself. Maybe she'll end up dying of Bayaz's magical cancer anyway, but I'll enjoy her refusal to get tangled up with Valint and Balk while I can. And I totally didn't see it coming when Shenkt turned out to be the guy who saved her life in the beginning. I can't wait for The Heroes!
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Jul 25, 2010 18:21
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I just finished Best Served Cold and I have to say I found it somewhat disappointing. It shares a lot of the same strengths with the trilogy, but it's main flaw is that it's just way too drat long. The themes and the character development get stretched really, really thin because the narrative structure is so huge. I found myself just skipping through fight scenes I got so bored of them. I'm hoping The Warriors is an improvement as a standalone. His short story about Northerners in that recent anthology was pretty good, so it gives me hope.
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Jul 27, 2010 16:11
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Yeah, I thought Best Served Cold was a bit... stretched. Felt like he was repeating himself in places, and there were just too many loving fights that spanned pages and pages. Still good, don't get me wrong, but only the first few hundred and last fifty pages were as good as I'd come to expect.
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Jul 27, 2010 19:08
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Most other fantasy authors would have added endless descriptions of every mundane item and totally overdone Valint and Balk vs. the Prophet to stretch it into a trilogy.
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Jul 27, 2010 21:16
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Coming from reading Martin's ASOIAF it's nice to see the the role of direct magic in a fantasy setting. Finally we have Dresden level magic practitioners who are completely over powered it's almost unfair. I'm wrapping up the first book in TFL series. If it wasn't for the spoilers in this thread I wouldn't think Logen as such a bad rear end. You'd think 3 guys in an alley wouldn't seem like such a big deal for this Conan-esque barbarian.
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Kneel Before Zog posted:You'd think 3 guys in an alley wouldn't seem like such a big deal for this Conan-esque barbarian. You've got to be realistic. All it takes is a split second to slip up and take a knife in the kidneys.
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Jul 28, 2010 06:04
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Kneel Before Zog posted:You'd think 3 guys in an alley wouldn't seem like such a big deal for this Conan-esque barbarian. If I remember right, he did think about throwing the money at the bum's eyes and stabbing him while he was distracted.
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Evfedu posted:Yeah, I thought Best Served Cold was a bit... stretched. It didn't seem so bad to me since he's so good at describing the fight scenes. They weren't slowed down by poor wording, they were easy for me to follow, and they were graphic--I could actually tell what was going on. That's a big accomplishment, if I'm to compare him to what few fantasy authors I've read (not that they were any good themselves, but still). Those fight scenes definitely aren't the part that I'd want to skip. I just hope that Joe Abercrombie doesn't get lazy/bored as an author, and that he never jumps the shark... or at least that he does it after I stop caring.
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I wish Abercrombie would write a book about the early years of Logen Ninefingers. I was thinking how that would never sell because of how dark and bloody it would be but then I realized, his current books aren't exactly a ray of sunshine.
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Jul 28, 2010 18:35
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Hughmoris posted:I wish Abercrombie would write a book about the early years of Logen Ninefingers. I was thinking how that would never sell because of how dark and bloody it would be but then I realized, his current books aren't exactly a ray of sunshine. I'll say this again, but I don't want to know any more about Logen. I liked how he showed us two very different sides of his past, leading us to sympathize with one and drat him for the other. Some characters are better left as they are. Like Cosca, he didn't need to show up in BSC. I still liked him, but I thought he was a better character in the trilogy.
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Jul 28, 2010 20:54
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I agree, no more Logen. Or at least no 'prequel' for Logen.
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I agree. Logen's character arc (or character prairie, I guess) was completed. But since he and Ferro are both still alive, I could go for a story about their odd relationship.
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After many long months of BSC sitting on my bookshelf, I finally got down to the business of actually reading it. Bloody hell. While Shivers' downfall seemed pretty inevitable from the start, I was surprised at how much my opinion of Monza shifted back and forth over the course of the novel. Despite the fuckups and poor decisions that felt pretty alienating as a reader, she ended up getting a sort of tragic sympathy from me. I was more surprised to find that my favorite characters ended up being Cosca and Friendly, two people that did not generate much interest in me when they were first introduced. I was thrilled when they came through alive. And NEVER have I seen a character I wanted to strangle as much as arrogant loving Morveer.
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The Crooked Warden posted:And NEVER have I seen a character I wanted to strangle as much as arrogant loving Morveer.  . Totally fits the bill. Hell, when you throw in Friendly you've got the whole autistic spectrum represented.
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Friendly was really more OCD.
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I really liked Morveer. The way his background gets darker and darker. Probably foolish of me but until the completely idiotic betrayal he and his apprentice were some of my favorite characters. Seriously duder, you go to all this trouble to train an apprentice, someone to carry on your legacy, then you gently caress it all up. I don't know, it just seems like even if you are a master poisoner you should trust someone sometime at some point. Just be like "I'm teaching you all this, and I will never poison you." Or something, because it seems really dumb to go to all the trouble of training someone you don't trust even a little bit.
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Hahah! BSC spoilers: Even if (if) Morveer had been sane, his catchphrase was "Caution first. Always." I mean that was all of who he was, he couldn't trust. It sounds like your problem with him is that you're just much more honest and reasonable than he was, so you have difficulty relating. If someone had said "I will never poison you" to Morveer he would have killed himself trying to avoid the places that person could have conceivable had access to. And he taught Day to think just like him, but evidently not quite as well.
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I also think you're forgetting Monza's part in it...She's really good at manipulating and reading people, an excellent leader. She knew exactly how to plant seeds to make her start doubting Morveer.
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I'm 3/5 of the way through the final book in The Blade Itself trilogy. I wanted to know if it's ever addressed exactly why Bayaz wanted NineFingers spared by Bethod? Is it solely because he can talk to spirits?
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Kneel Before Zog posted:I'm 3/5 of the way through the final book in The Blade Itself trilogy. I wanted to know if it's ever addressed exactly why Bayaz wanted NineFingers spared by Bethod? Is it solely because he can talk to spirits? Yes. He thought he needed someone who could talk to spirits to get The Seed.
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If you go look at Joe's blog you'll find he's been doing a bunch of character introductions over then last few weeks for The Heroes, lots of good information and possibly some spoilers as well. Interesting to see that Bremer dan Gorst is back, and that Joe has thought of the effects that events in Best Served Cold might have on King Luthar's body guard. He didn't have a great deal of character in the first books but I'm interested to see where he goes with him. Also there is an extract from the book over here. Jekub fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Aug 19, 2010 |
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Jekub posted:If you go look at Joe's blog you'll find he's been doing a bunch of character introductions other then last few weeks for The Heroes, lots of good information and possibly some spoilers as well. Interesting to see that Bremer dan Gorst is back, and that Joe has thought of the effects that events in Best Served Cold might have on King Luthar's body guard. He didn't have a great deal of character in the first books but I'm interested to see where he goes with him. from the blog: quote:We’ve also had a side-order of Beck, a more minor point-of-view character on the Northern side - a young lad obsessed with tales of heroism, and desperate for the chance to fight and win himself a name on the battlefield, and a high place in the songs. Just like his father, Shama Heartless, a famous champion killed in a duel with the Bloody-Nine. Knowing how my stuff goes, I’m sure that will all turn out exactly as planned. 
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From Joe's blog: "Secondly, Calder has a tough, strong, honest, loyal older brother with a pea for a brain before him in line." I don't know if Honest and Loyal are good words to describe Scale given what we saw in The First Law books.
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Mr.48 posted:From Joe's blog: From Calder's perspective he might be.
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