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RagnarokAngel posted:Didn't even notice that. Apparently Wal Mart is going to try it again so this articles been making the rounds again. They've never stopped doing it though. RFID in stuff that's expensive or easy to steal is standard practice, that's what makes the detector things at the doors beep and such.
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El Boot posted:Oh goddammit (notracist) I was listening to the Town Hall Roundup on the radio last night, which is part of townhall.com, and they basically review the week in Right Wing Talk. I was pretty appalled to hear several talk show hosts defend that racist screed from the tea bagger... this one. He's not racist, but the NAACP is!
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fishmech posted:They've never stopped doing it though. RFID in stuff that's expensive or easy to steal is standard practice, that's what makes the detector things at the doors beep and such. Pretty much. RFID chips are way more prevalent than most people realize. It's just inventory tracking. It's how stores know when to replace certain stock, and gives them certain sales data, like when what product sells best when. Goddamn, I can't wait to get a national ID card with all my info on it. Make life so much easier.
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Do crazy IM's count?quote:Discovery Announcement ~ The densest element in the known Universe has been found!
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Skyl3lazer posted:Do crazy IM's count? For some reason, I'm most bothered by how awful the chemistry is.
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Skyl3lazer posted:Do crazy IM's count? That's not even really crazy... just... dumb.
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El Boot posted:For some reason, I'm most bothered by how awful the chemistry is. P....Protons 
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A while back I subscribed to a bunch of groups on an alternative email address, I get emails from the Sarah Palin PAC and the Campaign for liberty etc. It's an easy way to keep an eye on the crazy. Today I got a good one from the Minutemen HQ. (bolding as in the original) quote:ALERT: Obama's Federal Government refuses to secure the border and enforce immigration law. The Feds were in court YESTERDAY 7/22 actively seeking to STOP Arizona's law and supporting illegal aliens not American citizens. Good question, where was the United States federal government when the Republic of Texas at war with Mexico.
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The government of the United States was in the same place when Mexican rebels were fighting the Mexican government as the government of the United Kingdom was when American rebels were fighting the American government.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Good question, where was the United States federal government when the Republic of Texas at war with Mexico. Obama! 
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quote:Well where were the Feds when the Republic of Texas was defending against an invasion at the Alamo? There is just so much wrong with this sentence. 
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Where was this so called "federal government" when filthy englishmen hopped the border onto plymouth rock? NOWHERE TO BE SEEN!
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:A while back I subscribed to a bunch of groups on an alternative email address, I get emails from the Sarah Palin PAC and the Campaign for liberty etc. It's an easy way to keep an eye on the crazy. Wait I'm pretty bad at history but was Texas even a part of the U.S. at that poi... yeah got it.
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quote:Well where were the Feds when the Republic of Texas was defending against an invasion at the Alamo? What the ever-loving gently caress?
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quote:Poster child for what is wrong in Congress Surprisingly this question was never loving asked. drat liberals only caring about their fictional "global warming". I'm surprised they didn't add a - D at the end of her name to drive home the loving point.
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One of the "advantages" to growing up in Texas is the shitload of Texas history I learned. Let me tell you right now that this sentence: "Well where were the Feds when the Republic of Texas was defending against an invasion at the Alamo? " Is the biggest crock of poo poo I've ever seen and no Texan who knew anything about their state background, including right-wingers who would be misguidedly proud of the story, would defend this statement. The Texians (that's how it was spelled at the time) were seceding from the Mexican government because they were disappointed that Santa Anna was holding them to the conditions they agreed to when they moved to Mexican Texas in the first place (no slaves and recognizing Catholic supremacy in Texas, though there was free practice of Protestantism allowed). The Texans only won because Sam Houston was one of the luckiest sons of bitches to ever live and attacked the Mexican Army while they were sleeping, running through their tents in the middle of the night bayonetting unarmed Mexican soldiers in their nightclothes. The Texas Republic, as established, was completely ineffectual, and for its entire less-than-a-decade existence as an independent country, kept offering itself to be annexed by the US. This was problematic because Texans had a very different idea of their borders (extending to the Rio Grande) than the Mexicans did (They thought that everything south of San Antonio should still be Mexican) so when President Tyler annexed Texas on his last day in office, it immediately provoked a crisis with Mexico that led to a war the following year, the Mexican/American War (1846-48) that resulted in the US seizing the northern third of Mexico and offering Mexico a pittance for it. Americans, partially out of a desire to get territory that would lead to a new southern coast and partially out of a sense of guilt, promptly bought the Gadsden Purchase (the southern half of New Mexico and Arizona) and overpaid for it by a ridiculous amount. The joke was really on them because their mappers were wrong and they should've bought what is today the Mexican state of Sonora along with it if they wanted to fulfill their objective of giving Arizona a southern coastline.
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I have been in a discussion recently with a friend of mine from high school who is the typical "socialism is the cause of all of our problems" guy. He is trying to argue that socialism is what caused the subprime housing crisis and pure capitalism is the only way to save it. I have tried explaining that there are definitely cases where capitalism creates exploitation and government regulation is necessary but was wondering if there is a better way to argue against his point.
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MrSargent posted:I have been in a discussion recently with a friend of mine from high school who is the typical "socialism is the cause of all of our problems" guy. He is trying to argue that socialism is what caused the subprime housing crisis and pure capitalism is the only way to save it. I have tried explaining that there are definitely cases where capitalism creates exploitation and government regulation is necessary but was wondering if there is a better way to argue against his point. Unless he can give you exact reasons for you to refute, no. Something as vague as "[Political ideology] is the cause of [current social or financial issue]" cant be refuted because the person don't really know WHY that is, they're just blurting out a talking point they heard. You can't correct misinformation if the person doesnt have have the information to begin with.
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Holy poo poo we have Mexican Drug Armies invading us?! Why weren't we warned!?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Holy poo poo we have Mexican Drug Armies invading us?! Why weren't we warned!? And they're riding illegal immigrants like they're cavalry!
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MrSargent posted:I have been in a discussion recently with a friend of mine from high school who is the typical "socialism is the cause of all of our problems" guy. He is trying to argue that socialism is what caused the subprime housing crisis and pure capitalism is the only way to save it. I have tried explaining that there are definitely cases where capitalism creates exploitation and government regulation is necessary but was wondering if there is a better way to argue against his point. An Econ 101 textbook should back you up.
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Arglebargle III posted:An Econ 101 textbook should back you up. Better yet, just point to anywhere in Gilded Age America/Europe or go into detail about South African exploitation when Rhodes was still alive.
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My father loves to forward me reasons why we should hate all Muslims. Those infidels and what not. Nevertheless, this might be a repeat so sorry if that's the case. Warning: This message is not a reflection on the opinions of this poster. quote:Trigger-Happy Muslims and Deluded Infidels in the Happy Land of Make-Believe
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MrSargent posted:I have been in a discussion recently with a friend of mine from high school who is the typical "socialism is the cause of all of our problems" guy. He is trying to argue that socialism is what caused the subprime housing crisis and pure capitalism is the only way to save it. I have tried explaining that there are definitely cases where capitalism creates exploitation and government regulation is necessary but was wondering if there is a better way to argue against his point. Without knowing what he's defining as "socialism", it's a bit tough, but I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that any sort of regulation is  socialism to him.You could always point out that banks made obscene amounts of money from the 1990s up until the crash despite increasing numbers of foreclosures, or the fact that banks (private banks, not just Fannie and Freddie) actively sought subprime borrowers because they made money as long as house prices went up, regardless of if they foreclosed. Hell, if you wanted to go historical on him, you could point out the regular boom/bust cycle of the 1800s and 1900s and that Depression era banking reform led to ~70 years without a major economic meltdown (until much of it was repealed in the 1980s and 1990s, especially Glass-Steagall). Wikipedia is a good starting point for information, How much have you tried to get him to back up his claims with citations and actual evidence? I've found that people like him either backpedal or get defensive if you ask them to prove it.
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Kat the Irish posted:My father loves to forward me reasons why we should hate all Muslims. Those infidels and what not. Nevertheless, this might be a repeat so sorry if that's the case. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think we've found it. Pure, untainted essence of wrong. There is absolutely nothing right and ok with that e-mail at all. However, Ijit dad posted:D.C. sniper John Muhammad, who was executed last week for 10 random homicides in 2002. Why is it those who kill for their religion are never named Jimmy Jesus or Milt Moses?
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Kat the Irish posted:Insanity So, do you ever reply to these e-mails with a point-by-point refutation, or do you just ignore them?
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My father strikes again.quote:Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said: "I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America 's story." This is a note on his Facebook. I haven't responded yet, but please write up anything if you want me to add it in.
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quote:Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not present. The bow-ties were really just a tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. Also: http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/afammuslims.htm
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:My father strikes again. Shalom aleichem.
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Why would a woman wear a hajib? You'd think a government official would be too heavy.  I understand that the Qu'ran doesn't say anything about the wearing of the hijab or any other concealing clothing. The Bible does, though: 1st Corinthians 11:4-6 posted:Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. Edit: Wikipedia quotes The Encyclopedia of Islam and the Muslim World on the hijab: quote:The term hijab or veil is not used in the Qur'an to refer to an article of clothing for women or men, rather it refers to a spatial curtain that divides or provides privacy. The Qur'an instructs the male believers (Muslims) to talk to wives of Prophet Muhammad behind a hijab. This hijab was the responsibility of the men and not the wives of Prophet Muhammad. However, in later Muslim societies this instruction, specific to the wives of Prophet Muhammad, was generalized, leading to the segregation of the Muslim men and women. The modesty in Qur'an concerns both men's and women's gaze, gait, garments, and genitalia. The clothing for women involves khumūr over the necklines and jilbab (cloaks) in public so that they may be identified and not harmed. Guidelines for covering of the entire body except for the hands, the feet and the face, are found in texts of fiqh and hadith that are developed later. Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jul 30, 2010 |
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:
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My reply: This is stupid, racist, lazily researched, and a smart person like you should know better. To be fair to you, it took me a whole long 20 minutes to find all of this info. The numbers refer to which paragraph of trash I am responding to. 1. Muslims were in America even before the Pilgrims landed, as earlier as 1527 as slaves to Spanish and Portuguese explorers (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estevanico). As a matter of fact, estimates show 10-20% of slaves were Muslim (Source: http://www.lotsofessays.com/viewpaper/2000384.html). 2. Given that they were slaves, no, sorry, there’s probably no depiction of Muslims at the first Thanksgiving. They might have been in the kitchen though. 3. I can’t show any Muslim signature on the Constitution for the same reason I can’t show any Black, Indian, Asian, or female signatures. They weren’t real citizens yet. Way to make a good point though. Also, you do know the Bill of Rights are part of the Constitution, yes? It would have the same signature, thus making your asking of that question redundant. It’s ok though, I don’t expect you to be good at history if you’re posting something like this. 4. Muslims did indeed help fight for independence from Britain! Get a calculator: this involves math: 5,000 slaves fought for the Union (Source: http://americanrevwar.homestead.com/files/blacks.htm). Once again, if 10-20% of slaves were Muslim, then some Muslims must have been in that number. Or wait – sorry, do brown people not count as official military members? I’m confused on how your logic works. I also found a book detailing one particular Muslim’s war effort: http://www.soundvision.com/shop/pview.asp?item=456-081 5. Same math as before. 200,000 African-Americans fought for the Union (Source: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/slavery-during-the-civil-war.html). Once again, some must have been Muslim due to the 10-20% rule. 6. I can’t find this anywhere. There’s other problems. Which one ? He has eight half-siblings — seven of them living — by four other marriages or relationships of his parents. http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545462,BSX-News-wotrees09.stng Here is an interview with half-brother George, who was probably the one referenced as saying these things. He denies much of what was reported about him, and states “...this is all lies by people who don’t want my brother to win,” and, “The magazines, they exaggerated everything.” http://mediamatters.org/research/200808260023. I know conservatives don’t believe Media Matters though because Beck tells you not to, but you need to find this interview. Also, the largest slave owning country today is Mauritius, a Christian nation. 7. Malcom X you idiot. Malcom X was there for the Civil Right Movement. He was even in a picture with Dr. King! Source: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...h:1&um=1&itbs=1 8. Here is a list of Muslim countries and their timeline of women’s suffrage from 1918-present. Notice two of them enacted legislation before the US (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_first_women%27s_suffrage_in_majority-Muslim_countries). Also, of course many women in Muslim countries don’t enjoy the same freedoms. Most countries don’t. What are you proving here? 9. Muslims during WWII: Morocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goumier) and the British Indian Army from the Punjabi area (http://defencejournal.com/sept99/martial-races.htm). Additionally, “they” booted al-Husseini out for his support of Hitler, at the beginning of WW2. The Grand Mufti lost his office of President of the Supreme Muslim Council, his membership on the Waqf committee, and was forced into exile in Syria in 1937. (Source: http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php). So no, “they” didn’t support Hitler. 10. This is the worst, and an outright lie. Here are the condemnations of the attacks from various Muslim leaders (http://islam.about.com/cs/currentevents/a/9_11statements.htm). And because this accusation makes me really loving angry, here is a list of all the Muslim victims that died in the attack. Memorize their names, because they are certainly better American citizens then you could ever hope to be. Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.’s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid Source: http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm However you did get one thing right: the Berbery Priates and the Muslim Major at Ft. Hood were indeed Muslim. OH MY GOD, THE HUMANITY! The very worst thing that you have done here is impugned our brave service men and women who are indeed Muslim and serving overseas. The very people who you claim to support 100%. (Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/us/09muslim.html). By spreading hatespeech, you are indeed condemning them to their peers. Good job trying to destabilize our military in a time of need. Your three choices: 1. You can apologize for spreading something inflammatory, racist, hateful, and inaccurate and we’ll just pretend this never happened. 2. Deabte me point-by-point and show me how I’m wrong. 3. Ignore this, stand by your racist view, and lose my respect as your soon. Your call. --- I added in the military masturbatory stuff at the end because he'd appreciate it. I also listed a lot of stuff from the one link someone posted.
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:My father strikes again. Lucky for you, Media Matters is way ahead of you! http://mediamattersaction.org/emailchecker/200912150003
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I don't think this has ever applied better: drat son!
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:...here is a list of all the Muslim victims that died in the attack. Memorize their names, because they are certainly better American citizens then you could ever hope to be.  That is one hell of a burn. I wonder what his response (if any) will be?
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Perestroika posted:
Eh, I wish I hadn't said that. It's a little petty. I'll be sure to post a response if I get one. Additionally, he's friends with hundreds of people he's met at Tea Party events, so I might get something good from one of them. What I can't understand is my parents are the ones who taught me racism is bad. They didn't even blink when I dated a black girl in high school. I have no idea where this stuff comes from.
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:Also, the largest slave owning country today is Mauritius, a Christian nation. Um... What? Mauritius is <40% christian, and I can't find any references to them owning slaves. CIA World Factbook posted:Hindu 48%, Roman Catholic 23.6%, Muslim 16.6%, other Christian 8.6%, other 2.5%, unspecified 0.3%, none 0.4% (2000 census) edit: Did you mean Mauritania? That country is an islamic republic. With nearly 100% muslim population. nightchild12 fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jul 30, 2010 |
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nightchild12 posted:Um... What? Mauritius is <40% christian, and I can't find any references to them owning slaves. Yes, I hosed that up when I copied something else. I fixed the message.
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Sorry to double post, but I just got this from my dad: "Thanks for the research. I failed to copy the last line which stated the the Author is Unkown. I did not write it and should have checked the facts. It has been deleted! " See guys, sometimes they read your responses! Love you dad.
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