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This delay is a huge disappointment. I've been waiting patiently because the Boxee Box's features and "sub-$200" price were pretty attractive to me as someone who doesn't have any kind of media PC currently (and has no interest in building one from scratch). Hopefully Boxee hears and processes all the frustrated feedback from this announcement and comes up with some way to launch ahead of schedule, if that's possible.
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mediaphage posted:You should look into a WD TV unit, then. As far as placement goes, while it is shaped rather bizarrely, it's quite small. Shouldn't be much of an issue sticking it somewhere next to the TV. Judging by the warning label on the WD TV Live the bizarre shape also helps to stop users placing USB HDDs on top.
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Xythar posted:How well does it support subtitles? My current player technically "supports subtitles" but the actual support is unfortunately pretty loving appalling. It supports them very well. Zero complaints. The Wdtv is basically a no frills "plays your movie files" solution. No apps, ugly user interface. Some people have network share issues but I haven't run into any problems.
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Have you tried just normal subtitles or also fancy .SSA/.rear end stuff with embedded fonts, styling and positioning?
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Jul 5, 2010 23:04
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This is an amazing device and really cool, but if you think this spells the end of cable/satellite in any way, you are seriously deluded. The vast majority of television users out there want "*click*.. on, watch" functionality. As soon as you have to start browsing or streaming or anything even remotely like that that involves more than three button presses, you've alienated 80% of television viewers out there. Christ, most mainstream television watchers are confused by modern remote controls.
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Jul 7, 2010 14:15
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This is an amazing device and really cool, but if you think this spells the end of cable/satellite in any way, you are seriously deluded. The vast majority of television users out there want "*click*.. on, watch" functionality. As soon as you have to start browsing or streaming or anything even remotely like that that involves more than three button presses, you've alienated 80% of television viewers out there. I dont' see why you can't get that same sort of idiot proof system in these connected media players
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Jul 7, 2010 14:52
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Mister Fister posted:I dont' see why you can't get that same sort of idiot proof system in these connected media players I'm sure you can, but to get it in that sort of state, out of the box, would relegate it to just being cable in another form. If if it's just cable with a shiny new paint job, that won't entice many people to ditch their existing cable. Satellite was able to draw a ton of people away from cable, because it genuinely offered a lot more content, but still had a very basic approach to how that content is selected and view. Boxee offers another step up in content, but to it's detriment there's a level of competency required to take full advantage of it that most viewers simply do not have. When most people take a minute to figure out how to change the input mode when they want to watch a DVD, streaming from a computer is the equivalent of asking them to terraform Mars with a shovel and a photo of Ben Vareen. Don't get me wrong, I think this sort of thing is the future, but the date when that happens is still nebulous and hazy, and very likely still far, far away. EDIT: Oh drat, and I just saw it's being made by D-Link. Yikes, I can't speak for everyone but I and everyone I've known who's had a D-Link router has had nothing but problems with them. Not that it matters anyway, as being in Canada means 90% of the content this thing can access is blocked to me. Bloody Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jul 7, 2010 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:This is an amazing device and really cool, but if you think this spells the end of cable/satellite in any way, you are seriously deluded. The vast majority of television users out there want "*click*.. on, watch" functionality. This is the basis for the GoogleTV. It initially looks like it will try to integrate and extend your existing cable/sat service with additional web-features and content. The local content will be the icing on the cake for the tech-savvy. The Boxee Box is already dead in the water. Its underpowered chip can't play high bitrate HD content, and at this rate, the Logitech Revue (GTV) will beat it to market with much better h/w and s/w. The Acer Revos are also getting cheaper, and the XBMC port is getting better for those that want to customize their HTPC.
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Jul 7, 2010 16:44
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Just saw this on Engadget, apparently the first production box has come off the line http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/boxees-first-production-box-gets-shown-off-to-the-world-video/ Too bad it still isn't being released until November. I simply got impatient and bought a WDTV Live for the time being.
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Jul 18, 2010 15:48
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i'm still hoping the delay is just to get the software up to par.
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Jul 18, 2010 16:27
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B-Nasty posted:This is the basis for the GoogleTV. It initially looks like it will try to integrate and extend your existing cable/sat service with additional web-features and content. The local content will be the icing on the cake for the tech-savvy. As long as it's a separate unit from the cable box GoogleTV will absolutely fail. The mainstream audience has failed to embrace IR blasters basically since the invention of digital cable, and Google does not appear to have any brilliant plan for how to bring DVR recordings into their little boxworld.
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Jul 19, 2010 03:50
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It'll probably do all right here where most people don't give a poo poo about cable. Too bad they're not releasing it here until like 2011 or 2012 or something.
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TheScott2K posted:As long as it's a separate unit from the cable box GoogleTV will absolutely fail. The mainstream audience has failed to embrace IR blasters basically since the invention of digital cable, and Google does not appear to have any brilliant plan for how to bring DVR recordings into their little boxworld. It's not going to be long until Google TV just because another piece of software that's incorporated on CE devices like netflix integration. When most blu-ray players and TVs have Google TV built in (and I give it less than two years before that happens), most people will then have the ability to play any sort of content they would want without adding another box. DVR is a thornier issue as all 3rd party DVRs are an abject failure at this point and it's not software that's to blame, it's the way they are incorporated (or rather, not) into the MSO networks. We need to move beyond cablecard to pump innovation into the DVR space and I think by the time that's adopted, we may be on a completely different programming model altogether.
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bull3964 posted:It's not going to be long until Google TV just because another piece of software that's incorporated on CE devices like netflix integration. When most blu-ray players and TVs have Google TV built in (and I give it less than two years before that happens), most people will then have the ability to play any sort of content they would want without adding another box. GoogleTV has its integration with the feed from cable TV front and center. This is a problem for it because even blu-ray player and TV integration don't do much to change how gangly a cable box+IR blaster setup is. I agree that increased use of 3rd party DVRs would be great, but with the exeption of two PC tuners that have yet to be released the industry seems to be standing around with their hands in their pockets waiting for CableCard's successor. Tivo's barely even trying anymore. GoogleTV's only hope for being both good and appealing to the masses is cable company provided DVR integration, and they don't even seem to be trying for that.
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TheScott2K posted:GoogleTV has its integration with the feed from cable TV front and center. This is a problem for it because even blu-ray player and TV integration don't do much to change how gangly a cable box+IR blaster setup is. I agree that increased use of 3rd party DVRs would be great, but with the exeption of two PC tuners that have yet to be released the industry seems to be standing around with their hands in their pockets waiting for CableCard's successor. Tivo's barely even trying anymore. I thought it was being integrated into Dish Network's box?
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Mister Fister posted:I thought it was being integrated into Dish Network's box? Just looked into it and yes it is. I hope it catches on, because I really want to see set-top boxes do more and the way it happens is integration, not more boxes.
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Everyone has probably already moved on by now but... Tegra 2 is out, Intel Atom CE4100 is in That will also make it cost about $30 more for a price of $229. They stated their gripe with Tegra 2 was that it couldn't do high profile h264.
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Will be updating OP tonight. Or closing thread. Haven't decided yet.
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Sep 13, 2010 15:47
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Just bought a wdtv live plus, gonna move it to the bedroom and get one of these.
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Tried to find this and obviously no one hear has one, but does anyone know if I plug a USB hard drive in and plug in the network cable too, if it will show up as network-attached storage so I can copy files right to the device from my computer? Would rather not stream if I didn't have to.
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hedgecore posted:Tried to find this and obviously no one hear has one, but does anyone know if I plug a USB hard drive in and plug in the network cable too, if it will show up as network-attached storage so I can copy files right to the device from my computer? Would rather not stream if I didn't have to. There might be an app for it or atleast some sort of SMB ability, but why download through your computer when you can just torrent right from the box itself.
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Amazon preorder price dropped to $199 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038JE07O?tag=gmgamzn-20
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bull3964 posted:Everyone has probably already moved on by now but... Haha they couldn't have figured this out before demoing it at CES?
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Wish they would've told us about the chipset change earlier instead of keeping everyone in the dark for so long. Oh well, I think it'll be pretty sweet. I went ahead and pre-ordered it. I hope the Netflix streaming will be in HD. The current Boxee Netflix app, as far as I know, is locked out of the HD stream since in all cases it is technically running on PC.
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tragick posted:Wish they would've told us about the chipset change earlier instead of keeping everyone in the dark for so long. Oh well, I think it'll be pretty sweet. Ohh, that would change things if i couldn't do HD netflix.
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YouTuber posted:On top of that, nobody would buy it on looks either. Why the gently caress they chose a triangle is beyond me. Every company of worth knows to make their poo poo a rectangle because everyone else makes their poo poo rectangular. Customers just stack them on top of each other. I was all set to buy one of these based on the specs until I saw the chassis. I don't even know what else to say except what the gently caress were they thinking?
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Don Lapre posted:Ohh, that would change things if i couldn't do HD netflix.
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tragick posted:Actually, now that I look into it, *some* of the HD titles on Netflix are available in HD on a PC now, but not nearly all. Hopefully they will unlock all of them for the Boxee Box since it is an 'embedded' device. From what it sounds like on the forums and the comments. They are hinting that netflix on boxee will be better than current solutions. Maybe they will be the first device with 5.1 audio support.
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tragick posted:Wish they would've told us about the chipset change earlier instead of keeping everyone in the dark for so long. Oh well, I think it'll be pretty sweet. PC can do Netflix HD now
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kri kri posted:PC can do Netflix HD now Very limited though, not nearly enough titles that are available in HD are available in HD for the PC.
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The Gunslinger posted:I was all set to buy one of these based on the specs until I saw the chassis. I don't even know what else to say except what the gently caress were they thinking? Am I the only one who doesn't mind the design of the box? It's pretty neat and I think it looks cool. Everyone is bitching about how you can't stack it with your A/V equipment, then just put it on top of the stack. I don't think you want to stack this thing anyways, it probably will be putting out quite a bit of heat.
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BorderPatrol posted:Am I the only one who doesn't mind the design of the box? It's pretty neat and I think it looks cool. Bearing in mind that Boxee and media streaming to the TV in general is a pretty niche market at the moment, I think the design of the Boxee box is intended to provoke people unfamiliar with the concepts into asking "what's that?" etc. Designing this as just another set-top box is unlikely to invoke that sort of enquiry.
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Just preordered mine, can't wait, anybody else?
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I won't be buying the box, but I do love the software - i'd even pay (a small amount) for it. Though they do need to fix some of the stuttering and frame dropping issues for flash when its running on an atom processor.
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i'll order one after I see reviews from the goons that did buy one. I really do like the software too but they need to work on scrapping a little bit more.
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I will order one when I can put XBMC on it
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If the software matures just a little bit (or is substantially different than the free download) then I could see getting one of these for my mother. Boxee is a lot prettier and easier to understand than XBMC out-of-the-box. I'm interested in knowing how the actual device performs. Reviews, anyone?
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Yeah, I'm banking on it being buttery smooth since it's taken this long to get out the door. As much as I'd like to get another HTPC, I really don't use mine for anything else but a media center (extender? File server is elsewhere and I don't have cable to DVR) and this seems to fit the bill quite nicely since my current setup doesn't do 1080P very well and is quite large.
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Fatal posted:Yeah, I'm banking on it being buttery smooth since it's taken this long to get out the door. As much as I'd like to get another HTPC, I really don't use mine for anything else but a media center (extender? File server is elsewhere and I don't have cable to DVR) and this seems to fit the bill quite nicely since my current setup doesn't do 1080P very well and is quite large. I've preordered mine too, mostly because I am fairly sick of dealing with driver issues with getting various components to work properly with my hdtv. I've probably spent 10 hours hacking nvidia drivers to let it send audio, or unsuccessfully getting my ATI card to send hdmi audio properly. Having an all-in-one box that does everything it currently does very well (aggregating all my local media and websites) is all I'm really hoping for. I do still miss having netflix under my tv show library, though.
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Preordered as well. I've got a nettop running boxee under Windows 7 now. It runs well, but this box will be great for a second box. the remote looks amazing. The only thing I hate is Boxee's use of IMDB. It is a licensed copy of the database which isn't really kept in sync with IMDB itself, so you get occasional missing descriptions and crappy posters, especially compared to The TVDB. I just wish the devs would add support for local artwork.
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