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stingray1381 posted:http://www.law.gwu.edu/News/newsstories/Pages/2010SpaceLawTeam.aspx Her last name is LASER - HOW CAN SHE NOT WIN A SPACE LAW COMPETITION?!?
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Ainsley McTree posted:That brings up an interesting point. Has there ever been a police procedural or cop movie where internal affairs HASN'T been a bunch of weaselly evil bastards? I feel like it must be in the job description or something. I had an internship with the state department of revenue and even their internal affairs guy seemed like a jerkbag. They even found out that some cops killed people.
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Absolutely no idea if this is the correct place for this, but; I'm currently learning both Web Design and Accounting, and I wanted to know the legality of freelance work. If i put up signs saying, "Will design website for food", is this considered a business if I'm making money? Do I pay taxes? What if I give myself a name, like 'DEEP WINTER DEEP WEBSITES'? edit: "This thread is not for legal advice. If you want legal advice, the best thing to do is to contact a lawyer who is licensed to practice where you live or where your problem is. Lawyers can get into a lot of trouble for giving out "free" advice, so don't ask the law goons to do that! If you still really have to ask, post in the legal questions thread or start a separate thread." Actually I can probably go here. 
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Sep 30, 2010 16:50
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Sep 30, 2010 17:13
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I hate LLMs.
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Sep 30, 2010 17:22
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I always thought done right, a miniseries following some kind of big ticket corporate litigation (not class action toxic torts or something like that maybe some sort of soft IP) could be interesting. something like four or five episodes, and without all the miscellaneous poo poo Damages had. I guess I would be the only person who would watch that.
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Sep 30, 2010 17:23
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billion dollar bitch posted:I hate LLMs. have sex with them
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Sep 30, 2010 17:32
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billion dollar bitch posted:I hate LLMs. Hahaha what? I can't remember what school you're at, and lawgoon bios are no longer in the OP. Where are you?
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Sep 30, 2010 17:41
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I'm at CLS. We have like... a hundred LLM's, and environmental law seems to be where they all want to be. So every time the professor asks a question, we get to hear how it is in Israel or the Ukraine or some poo poo like that. It's really annoying. And their accents are atrocious and you can barely understand them. Finally, they're always so pressed with themselves on account of having been A REAL LAWYER in THE OLD COUNTRY when really, if you're so great, why the gently caress do you need an LLM?
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Sep 30, 2010 17:53
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billion dollar bitch posted:I'm at CLS. We have like... a hundred LLM's, and environmental law seems to be where they all want to be. So every time the professor asks a question, we get to hear how it is in Israel or the Ukraine or some poo poo like that. It's really annoying. And their accents are atrocious and you can barely understand them. Finally, they're always so pressed with themselves on account of having been A REAL LAWYER in THE OLD COUNTRY when really, if you're so great, why the gently caress do you need an LLM? this is llm's at any school
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billion dollar bitch posted:I'm at CLS. We have like... a hundred LLM's, and environmental law seems to be where they all want to be. So every time the professor asks a question, we get to hear how it is in Israel or the Ukraine or some poo poo like that. It's really annoying. And their accents are atrocious and you can barely understand them. Finally, they're always so pressed with themselves on account of having been A REAL LAWYER in THE OLD COUNTRY when really, if you're so great, why the gently caress do you need an LLM? In NY, an LLM lets you practice without having gone to US law school. All those lawyers in class with you are actually both much better than you at law and very likely to be your competitors as soon as you think about getting a job. Well, okay, not yours since Columbia is at least okay with BIGLAW. But anyone from Fordham or below reading this could do a lot worse than making friends. I guarantee you all those people have better contacts than you think they do, and they all need people to show up in court for them.
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Sep 30, 2010 18:08
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billion dollar bitch posted:I'm at CLS. We have like... a hundred LLM's, and environmental law seems to be where they all want to be. So every time the professor asks a question, we get to hear how it is in Israel or the Ukraine or some poo poo like that. It's really annoying. And their accents are atrocious and you can barely understand them. Finally, they're always so pressed with themselves on account of having been A REAL LAWYER in THE OLD COUNTRY when really, if you're so great, why the gently caress do you need an LLM? I intensely dislike most LLMs since they want to talk about something I don't care about, but more importantly they really want to talk. (they need an LLM to practice in the US). Adar posted:In NY, an LLM lets you practice without having gone to US law school. All those lawyers in class with you are actually both much better than you at law and very likely to be your competitors as soon as you think about getting a job. I'm not positive but I think LLM's don't participate in Columbia's OCI with the 2L's/3L's so they're not in competition with you that directly.
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Dear law school OCPD department. I understand that in your magical fantasy world, a GS-15 level position is totally an "entry-level" position that new J.D. graduates are qualified for. However, in the real world, that is not the case. So when I link you to the OPM hiring manual showing that a J.D. qualifies you only for a GS-9 position, and that GS-12 and higher positions are either specialized experience only with no education substitute, or are Ph.D. or post-doc required, why is your response "If you don't like it, unsubscribe from the CareerLink mailing list"?
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Sep 30, 2010 19:47
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evilweasel posted:I'm not positive but I think LLM's don't participate in Columbia's OCI with the 2L's/3L's so they're not in competition with you that directly. I think that's how it works for U.Va. as well. The LL.m's had their own career fair, which makes sense since an employer has to be willing to deal with all the visa paperwork and it's better to filter out the firms who don't want to do that in the beginning.
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SWATJester posted:Dear law school OCPD department. Jesus that is truly awful. Was that really their response? You should consider forwarding it to ATL or something (that is if you're OK with possibly winding up in the eye of a shitstorm)
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Sep 30, 2010 20:55
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Anyone have any experience/opinions on this LEEWS thing? There are flyers for it everywhere and they are making these crazy/desperate claims about how we're guaranteed Bs and will compete for As and all that kind of stuff. I googled a little bit and found mixed reviews that either talked about how expensive it was or about how they did well but they don't know if it was because of their system or not.
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Sep 30, 2010 21:14
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I actually meant solo work since that's what basically every NY LLM not at a top whatever winds up doing, but that's irrelevant for however many of you poor bastards actually get jobs. Everyone else should really be sucking up to them right now, though. The one thing solos who can't appear in court need is poor bastards willing to be the face for 30K. Unlike the rest of you they often actually have the money for that (you don't want to know how, but they do) so make friends now!
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Sep 30, 2010 21:22
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Deep Winter posted:Actually I can probably go here. PM me if you have any questions about reporting income. I'd answer here but I took a sick day, and there's no way in hell I'm writing anything work related on a day off.
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SWATJester posted:Dear law school OCPD department. When I was a 1L/2L, I think I remember seeing entry-level jobs at GS-11. This was back when the government had money. Now entry-levels are GS-9, GS-11 requires one year of experience or some scholastic qualification (top 1/3, law review, etc.), and GS-12 requires two years or one year plus scholastic qualification. GS-15 is fantasyland.
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Dear Law Student Goons, I have a friend who is interested in attending University of La Verve for Law here in southern california. Now, given what I've read in this thread, I've basically told him that if he's not going to a top 13 school he's just throwing money away on a law education. It also seems like the job market here in california is much worse than it is elsewhere, but that's mostly observation so I don't know if it's true or not. I guess what I am asking here is what do you guys think of the school and his ability to get a job after graduating with a degree from this place. Honestly, I am not trolling here, but genuinely asking this question and looking for your tell-it-like-it-is assessment of his situation. If you need any more information, my friend isn't dead-set on law, but thinks that this is just a fast ticket to getting a job and making "Da Big Buck$"
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Totally Negro posted:Dear Law Student Goons, You can't say "Honestly, I'm not trolling" and still troll. It's against civil decency. Therefore, I will pretend this is a real question. The answer to your question is almost zero. If your friend somehow manages to be dumb enough to spend $200k (plus lost wages) on a law degree he doesn't really want, have him obtain the current contact information for ULV's recent alumni. Tell him to call, at random, a dozen alumni, and ask a) if they have a job, b) if they do have a job, whether it's a good job, and c) what percentage of their income is being spent on student loans. Yes, one guy the class probably got some random job at some medium-sized immigration firm and won't die horribly alone in the gutter surrounded by empty Listerine bottles he sucked down in a desperate attempt to numb his pain, but since your friend is dumb enough to consider this law school he's probably too dumb to graduate with a job. Also ask him if he thinks he can compete with the guys from Stanford and UC Berkeley. Hell, even Stanford and UC Berkeley kids are hard-pressed to find big money jobs. Edit: Then, if he's still deadset on it, have him find some lengthy (50pg or more) legal briefing or complicated contracts and ask him if he wants to desperately fight for a job writing those documents for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for 30 years. The real moment most of us realize they made a mistake is when we read our first 50 page Motion for Partial Summary Judgment re Cross Claim's Interest Rate Start Date. BigHead fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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Oct 1, 2010 00:23
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It's not even fully accredited, your friend is stupid.
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stingray1381 posted:http://www.law.gwu.edu/News/newsstories/Pages/2010SpaceLawTeam.aspx
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Neko Sou posted:LEEWS ... we're guaranteed Bs Totally Negro posted:Now, given what I've read in this thread, I've basically told him that if he's not going to a top 13 school he's just throwing money away on a law education. BigHead posted:The real moment most of us realize they made a mistake is when we read our first 50 page Motion for Partial Summary Judgment re Cross Claim's Interest Rate Start Date
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BigHead and diospadre, thanks for the answers. Really appreciate them. BigHead I am just going to straight forward your post to him if you don't mind. Since I am here, do any socal goons have advice for finding a job in the area? Reason I ask is because my brother is interested in law school, but smarter than your average bear (Lol he went to berkeley) and given that he goes to a school like UCBerk or Stanford, how hard is it really to find a decent paying job? We're not talking big money job here, but just any job? BigHead, also, do you think this climate will change anytime in the near future, or is the field of law semi-permanently hosed (i.e. at least for the next few decades).
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Totally Negro posted:BigHead and diospadre, thanks for the answers. Really appreciate them. It is permanently hosed for that bottom of the toilet school he's considering. I think job prospects will get markedly better for... oh... probably the 30 or 40 top universities, but he's literally considering the worst of the worst. He would literally be better off if he took out a loan for $200k and burned it, because then people at non-law jobs - which I guarantee he will try to get after graduation because no law firm will hire him - won't think he's "overqualified" when really he's just trying to stave off bankruptcy, starvation and suicide. We're not kidding when we say this, we're not trolling, and we're not being overly dramatic. A lot of people way smarter than him are unemployed. Remember California is pumping out several times more law school graduates than there are openings in California each year. How many DAs and PDs do you think the state hires when it can't afford to pay the electricity bill in schools? Someone with more knowledge of the issue can tell you that job candidates for government jobs work for YEARS for free, hoping some day their turn in line will come, and they will be paid $35k/yr for poo poo work. The one bright side though, if he goes to that school, he'll be too poor to become an alcoholic or coke head, like the rest of us have become. As for your brother, if he goes to Stanford or UCBerk, there is still a non-zero chance he's going to end up poor and homeless (remember we're not kidding about that), but his chances of landing a job are pretty decent. BigHead fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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Totally Negro posted:Since I am here, do any socal goons have advice for finding a job in the area? Reason I ask is because my brother is interested in law school, but smarter than your average bear (Lol he went to berkeley) and given that he goes to a school like UCBerk or Stanford, how hard is it really to find a decent paying job? We're not talking big money job here, but just any job? The fact he went to Berkeley for ugrad means nothig for law schools. And are you talking decent lawyer job in SoCal? And if so, honestly SoCal is too broad because the LA, OC and SD markets are pretty different. OC and SD have some parallels but still there are some big differences. Can he find a good gig down there? Sure - go to a T14 and do well, or go to a SoCal school and do very well then throw a hail mary and see if something comes up. I have no idea where the market will be 3 or 4 years from now, whenever he goes, but there's a lot of ins and outs and what-have-yous no matter what. EDIT: When I say SoCal school I mean something accredited and above T2. I do not mean whatever place you were talking about. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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Oct 1, 2010 01:23
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Second Round OCI results: 1 lottery interview, 1 alternate
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Re: SoCal. I'll repeat what I said upthread. My husband worked for Los Angeles county *FOR FREE* for most of his stay at LLS. He's still unemployed, despite his excellent work and long hours worked FOR FREE. We're separated for economic reasons. We're not homeless yet but it's looking that way soon. I mean jesus. Don't loving go!
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Add to the OP that doing DOJ SLIP, best intern, and stellar reviews is still not enough for the honor's program when you go to a T2.
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University of La Verne College of Law http://www.avvo.com/stats/school_detail/university-of-la-verne-college-of-law-629 Look at the employment breakdown: ~ 25% doing Employment/Labor (read: workers comp and slip and falls) ~ 25% doing "other" (read: McDonalds or cooking meth in their mom's kitchen in the 909) I mean, the site may or may not be accurate - but La Verne does have a 58% bar pass rate. And it's in the middle of Ontario. Seriously, why here? Go to Southwestern and get involved with all the LA City Attorneys. Incredulous Red fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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blar posted:Add to the OP that doing DOJ SLIP, best intern, and stellar reviews is still not enough for the honor's program when you go to a T2. Judging by what people here have told me, its not enough for when you go to a top 5 either, so don't feel bad.
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billion dollar bitch posted:I've never seen Boston Legal. Is it funny? one episode revolves around a cat in a coma, being kept alive in a hospital bed, on a ventilator. while his owners fight a schiavo-esque battle over whether to pull the plug it is the greatest of shows
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Boston Legal is mostly about touching penises when you pee with another guy from what I my girlfriend forced me to watch.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcVDmX4ho4
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diospadre posted:Boston Legal is mostly about touching penises when you pee with another guy from what I my girlfriend forced me to watch. If you can't appreciate their platonic manlove there's something wrong with you just fyi
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hypocrite lecteur posted:If you can't appreciate their platonic manlove there's something wrong with you just fyi This is so true, and not even in a Lykourgos sort of way.
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Business posted:Jesus that is truly awful. Was that really their response? You should consider forwarding it to ATL or something (that is if you're OK with possibly winding up in the eye of a shitstorm) I've forwarded to ATL in the past and got called on it by the dean. If I already had my bar admission, I'd consider it, but I don't want to do anything until then.
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Incredulous Red posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcVDmX4ho4 Fun fact: Alaska's version of Rudy Giuliani doesn't just pack heat, he packs a loving assault rifle. Dude has four guns (that I saw) in his office. Two huntin' rifles, one hand gun for protection, and one assault rifle "just 'cause." Therefore, Alaska is superior Denny Crain.
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BigHead posted:Fun fact: Alaska's version of Rudy Giuliani doesn't just pack heat, he packs a loving assault rifle. Dude has four guns (that I saw) in his office. Two huntin' rifles, one hand gun for protection, and one assault rifle "just 'cause." I think it's a tie http://videosift.com/video/Denny-Crane-for-President?loadcomm=1
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