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Morphix posted:Article mentions the Cayman style front grill. I kind of like it...it reminds me of the older beetle designs, but it looks too big. Yeah, much like the Panamera, it kind of looks too long.
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I could live with the styling for the most part, but I think there's two things wrong: - the car culture norm of today doesn't allow much market for a true Beetle-like vehicle -- a no-frills, super cheap car. - that the design is so desperately trying to visually harken back to the original, and yet still failing miserably. That C-pillar is pure style and no function, for example.
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Oct 4, 2010 21:57
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It just somehow looks off to me. The current one looks hideous but at least seems relatively coherent to me.
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Oct 5, 2010 13:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It just somehow looks off to me. The current one looks hideous but at least seems relatively coherent to me. Probably because the front bumper (and possibly the rear as well) has another stuck over the top as camouflage.
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Oct 5, 2010 13:50
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That side profile shot reminded me of the shape of the Crossfire! Not sure if that's good. Looks like they made the engine bay bigger, heard the current one is a pain to work on.
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Oct 5, 2010 13:56
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kimbo305 posted:I could live with the styling for the most part, but I think there's two things wrong: You know, I wonder if car consumers wouldn't go for a cheap no frills car if all the car review media didn't immediately poo poo on the car. I think for the most part, once people are shopping for a cheap car their number one concern is reliability. Their are plenty of cheap no frills reliable cars that have come and gone that may have not done that great BUT the thing is when the average shopper of a car starts to try and research one of this stripped out models only thing they're going to see is "this car sucks omg" and they will stop there. They won't bother reading further to find out the reviewer says the car sucks because it still has crank windows. In my own world that is.
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Oct 5, 2010 14:20
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Probably because the front bumper (and possibly the rear as well) has another stuck over the top as camouflage. Well yeah, that probably doesn't help, but I was looking more at the non-camouflaged part.
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Oct 5, 2010 14:21
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I thought the proto-Beetle looked like a melding of the New Beetle with a TT.
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Oct 5, 2010 15:29
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Coredump posted:You know, I wonder if car consumers wouldn't go for a cheap no frills car if all the car review media didn't immediately poo poo on the car. I think for the most part, once people are shopping for a cheap car their number one concern is reliability. Their are plenty of cheap no frills reliable cars that have come and gone that may have not done that great BUT the thing is when the average shopper of a car starts to try and research one of this stripped out models only thing they're going to see is "this car sucks omg" and they will stop there. They won't bother reading further to find out the reviewer says the car sucks because it still has crank windows. In my own world that is.
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Oct 5, 2010 16:56
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About that wacky Lambo concept, http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/04/driving-force-lamborghini-and-callaway-golf-collaborate-on-new/quote:Whereas conventional carbon fiber is layered down in sheets and bonded together, Forged Composite comes mixed together in a paste of fibers and epoxy that can be squeezed into any shape desired. The application makes it far easier to form complex shapes, and since the fibers come out oriented randomly, the resulting form is apparently stronger in every which direction, instead of fixed ones like in conventional layered sheet carbon. So is this like fiberglass but with carbon fibers? (or perhaps "carbon fiberglass" if you like Wheel of Fortune)
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Oct 6, 2010 09:58
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japtor posted:About that wacky Lambo concept, http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/04/driving-force-lamborghini-and-callaway-golf-collaborate-on-new/ That should make it cheaper to make more of the car from composites, since it sounds like they'll be able to automate more of the process, rather than having to hand lay everything.
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Oct 6, 2010 10:02
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2ndclasscitizen posted:That should make it cheaper to make more of the car from composites, since it sounds like they'll be able to automate more of the process, rather than having to hand lay everything. 
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Oct 6, 2010 12:38
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 A Mini-Van. Picture says it all.  2013, 5 seats, FWD, will presumably share a platform with the Countryman. eames fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 6, 2010 |
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Oct 6, 2010 15:20
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eames posted:
Is laughing an appropriate response?
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Oct 6, 2010 15:25
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eames posted:
It's pretty ugly but you can't really fault a company that aims to make a fuel efficient minivan with good handling, even if it's only for being crazy enough to try.
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Oct 6, 2010 15:27
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That is shockingly offensive
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Oct 6, 2010 15:28
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SwashedBuckles posted:It's pretty ugly but you can't really fault a company that aims to make a fuel efficient minivan with good handling, even if it's only for being crazy enough to try. I can and will, just watch me! Even if someone pulled up in the latest Mini John Cooper Factory Skunkworks SS-R that could blow the doors off anything short of a Koenigsegg I would just point my thumb at this monstrosity with a look on my face that could only be described as "I'd rather walk".
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Oct 6, 2010 15:34
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"Fancy a ride in my Panamera?" "Why yes, I rather would! And might I say, what a handsome motor it is sir, does credit to the Porsche brand!" "Yes, it rather does, if only other automobile makers could expand their brand with such style and grace" *throws derisive look over at Mini* "too true" *retches in a culvert also having looked over at Mini*
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Oct 6, 2010 15:40
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Linedance posted:Is laughing an appropriate response? I don't know, but that is exactly the response that I had. And I say this as a person that appreciates minivans and the utility and space that they offer.
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Oct 6, 2010 15:52
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Christ, that is just about the ugliest motor vehicle this side of an aztek.
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Oct 6, 2010 15:53
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phew! Thank god it's just a press render! http://jalopnik.com/5656941/a-mini-minivan
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Oct 6, 2010 16:05
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Screw you haters, I would drive it.
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Oct 6, 2010 17:22
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eames posted:
They should rename it a mini-bus and have only a yellow paint scheme.
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Oct 6, 2010 18:17
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Coredump posted:Screw you haters, I would drive it. Yeah that thing crosses right on in to Owns territory.
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Oct 6, 2010 19:00
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It's not cab-forward or boxy enough, just copy the VW minibus 
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Oct 6, 2010 22:52
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eames posted:
Looks like an Audi A2, only much uglier. It was a nice car.
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The Third Man posted:That is shockingly offensive I hope whoever made that render was either laughing the whole time or just loving around with PS on the can.
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Oct 9, 2010 21:08
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bidikyoopi posted:I hope whoever made that render was either laughing the whole time or just loving around with PS on the can. I think it was a "Hay guys watch this!" moment.
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Oct 10, 2010 06:39
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Dr JonboyG posted:Don't know how I feel about that. Porsche doesn't really have any business in F1. They've tried it a couple of times in the past but it's not in the firm's DNA the way sportscar racing is. Audi would be a much better fit, but since Audi are pinning everything on TDi they won't leave prototypes and that means Porsche can't enter. What? Porsche was in F1 for 4 years[83-87](The 1991 Footwork Literally never existed, we shall not speak of that..that...thing) and took two constructors championships, 3 driver titles, and managed to win 25 races. I think they should be in the sport.
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japtor posted:It's not cab-forward or boxy enough, just copy the VW minibus  Although I still find the micro-microbus bodykits for Japanese vans to be very  :
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=22547 Jaguar C-X75: A new XJ220, powered by electricity generated by gas turbines???!! I know it's just a concept but drat, could you imagine the sound of one of these flying past, the whirr of electric motors, the hiss and whistle of two tiny turbines? Little children's jaws would drop. Hell, my jaw would drop! If it ever does end up in production in some form, no doubt it will end up just like the XJ220, with a completely different drivetrain.
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Jaguar don't make anything interesting these days because it doesn't behoove them to. They make cars for American dentists who call them "jawg-wars" and for fat blokes from Sheffield who ask if you've seen "me new Jag outside" and talk about the good trade in price they got for the Mondeo that preceeded it. I shot a corporate video once in Leeds or Sheffield (all the same to me) and it had one guy off Phoenix Nights and a local radio personality and all they did was compare the £ value of their "Jag" and "beemer" and now much they'd saved on it. The north 
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Oct 10, 2010 20:15
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InitialDave posted:Although I still find the micro-microbus bodykits for Japanese vans to be very
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echoplex posted:Jaguar don't make anything interesting these days because it doesn't behoove them to. They make cars for American dentists who call them "jawg-wars" and for fat blokes from Sheffield who ask if you've seen "me new Jag outside" and talk about the good trade in price they got for the Mondeo that preceeded it. you could make the same criticism about them when they came out with the XJ220.
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Oct 10, 2010 21:22
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Linedance posted:you could make the same criticism about them when they came out with the XJ220. Yeah, they tried doing something interesting and then no-one bought them, so lesson learned there.
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Oct 10, 2010 21:31
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echoplex posted:Yeah, they tried doing something interesting and then no-one bought them, so lesson learned there. Well they also said it was gonna have a V12 and then it didn't.
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Oct 10, 2010 21:33
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Hog Obituary posted:Well they also said it was gonna have a V12 and then it didn't. And launched it just as the global economy went south.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:And launched it just as the global economy went south. And they didn't sell them in North America from what I recall.
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Oct 11, 2010 07:37
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http://jalopnik.com/5660934/scion-fr+s-is-the-new-toyota-ft+86 Soo much fail. Basically the Toyota/Subaru project the FT-86 is looking like its gonna be a Scion, and the Subaru version may not be available stateside.
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Next they'll strap 800lb worth of stupid poo poo on it and make it FWD.
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