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TyChan posted:They're already out? I remember my exam results didn't come out until right before Thanksgiving. They screwed up and posted the list for like an hour earlier before taking it down. Someone on ATL got a screenshot of the whole thing, so I guess they just decided to make it official since everyone already knew.
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Harry Ellis posted:Yup; just got the email with the pdf and all that good stuff. Well, congratulations!
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So, I've never posted in this thread before, but I figure you're the people to ask for this kind of advice. As part of my school's OCI process, I've been invited to dinner by two of the big firms that I applied to. I'm looking to see if anyone has any tips or tricks on how to conduct myself at these dinners. I mean, obviously this is a part of the interview process for the firms, probably as much a part as the interviews themselves, but does anyone have any particular wisdom or advice with reference to the dinners or even with reference to the OCI process in general? How should I act? What should I wear? If this is relevant I'm in Toronto and I'm a 1L. This is my first crack at this sort of thing, and so I'm a bit nervous.
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The Maryland Bar Association wishes to inform me that I have successfully passed the examination for membership at bar.
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Gleri posted:So, I've never posted in this thread before, but I figure you're the people to ask for this kind of advice. As part of my school's OCI process, I've been invited to dinner by two of the big firms that I applied to. I'm looking to see if anyone has any tips or tricks on how to conduct myself at these dinners. I mean, obviously this is a part of the interview process for the firms, probably as much a part as the interviews themselves, but does anyone have any particular wisdom or advice with reference to the dinners or even with reference to the OCI process in general? How should I act? What should I wear? I'll let someone else handle the "answering your questions" part and just give another Torontonian a  Congrats to the bar passers too!
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Alright, help me law thread: I'm registered in Minnesota. I took the NY bar this summer while job-hunting, but in the meantime I got an in-house gig up here. I'm still open to the idea of moving around and have family in NY I'd kind of like to be closer to, but I'm no longer looking all that actively, and am pretty happy with my current gig and staying in Minnesota. Worth it to get admitted in NY? Assume my current employer would not pay for registration, bar dues, or any NY CLE needs that couldn't get knocked off through my CLEs in MN.
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So wait, other states are literally just now releasing their bar examination results, whereas here we've already been sworn in? Another reason why Illinois is the best state in the union; if America was a person then this state would be the heart given its geographical location, and a heart is an important organ. The coasts would be love handles or something which seriously people can live without
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How do you get graded in a clinic if the clinic ends before the cases you work on are resolved? I mean maybe you wrote a brilliant and poetic brief but does it really matter if you lose?
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If I see the interior of a courtroom on behalf of one of these clients I will kiss the loving ground. This is such bullshit.
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OptimistPrime posted:Alright, help me law thread: Wait. You have a job in one state but you want to get barred in another because you are "open to moving around"? Can you read?
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billion dollar bitch posted:If I see the interior of a courtroom on behalf of one of these clients I will kiss the loving ground. This is such bullshit. maybe you should drop out if you can't hack the actual practice of law.
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Draile posted:How do you get graded in a clinic if the clinic ends before the cases you work on are resolved? I mean maybe you wrote a brilliant and poetic brief but does it really matter if you lose? Usually I think a clinic is fairly "good faith" about the whole thing, like if you turned out good product and put the work in you get an A. At least here.
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Gleri posted:So, I've never posted in this thread before, but I figure you're the people to ask for this kind of advice. As part of my school's OCI process, I've been invited to dinner by two of the big firms that I applied to. I'm looking to see if anyone has any tips or tricks on how to conduct myself at these dinners. I mean, obviously this is a part of the interview process for the firms, probably as much a part as the interviews themselves, but does anyone have any particular wisdom or advice with reference to the dinners or even with reference to the OCI process in general? How should I act? What should I wear? Take your cues from the other people--only order booze if they do, same with desserts and crap. You're done eating when they are. Expect to not get to eat all that much as you answer a lot of questions. Try to order non-messy, middle-of-the-road price poo poo.
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J Miracle posted:Usually I think a clinic is fairly "good faith" about the whole thing, like if you turned out good product and put the work in you get an A. At least here.
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Save me jeebus posted:Wait. You have a job in one state but you want to get barred in another because you are "open to moving around"? Edit: apparently I can't read either, ignore. OptimistPrime fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 6, 2010 |
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Ok, well, if anyone is interested in helping educate a friendly face, Id like to try and get a better grasp of how the US SC works when it comes to receiving / considering applications/cases/motions and such. Today the Log Cabin Republicans filed an application to the US Supreme Court via Anthony Kennedy to vacate the Stay imposed by the Federal Court. .PDF of the Application: http://www.scribd.com/doc/41230670/LCR-v-USA-Application-to-US-Supreme-Court-November-5th quote:"We have today filed an application with the United States Supreme Court asking it to vacate the Ninth Circuit's order staying Judge Phillips's injunction pending appeal. We argue in this application that the Ninth Circuit order was arbitrary and an abuse of discretion and should be vacated immediately. We continue to look forward to the day when all Americans can serve in our military without regard to their sexual orientation," said Dan Woods, White & Case partner who is representing Log Cabin Republicans. I mean, I obviously understand what Is said in the above Quote, but how exactly does this thing work/how is it constituted that particular judges hear applications and may or may not refer it to the full court?
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Draile posted:How do you get graded in a clinic if the clinic ends before the cases you work on are resolved? I mean maybe you wrote a brilliant and poetic brief but does it really matter if you lose? Winning or losing has more to do with which end of the power stick you're holding than whether you're right or brilliant or poetic or have justice on your side. Slow the eviction down for a week so the family can move their stuff out? win. Get rentacenter to take their broken crap back and call it even so the family doesn't have to pay the remaining usurious balance? win. Get 12 years on Man1 from a jury rather than the State's offer of 40 on Murder2, even though it should have been an acquittal? Still a win. billion dollar bitch posted:I mean when you think about grading, in the absence of case work to do. My professor feels like she has to take up the class time, and then also (pointless) meetings with her, and mock interviews with stupid people who just say "I don't know" to every single loving question. I rue the day I signed up, thinking it would be seven easy credits. How do you grade on this? A clinic with an absence of casework? When legal aid organizations are turning people away? What do clinics do these days?
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Lemonus posted:Ok, well, if anyone is interested in helping educate a friendly face, Id like to try and get a better grasp of how the US SC works when it comes to receiving / considering applications/cases/motions and such. It's a motion pursuant to SCOTUS Rule 22. The Chief Justice has assigned each federal circuit to a particular justice. (28 USC 42) Kennedy is the designated justice to hear such motions from the 9th circuit. UPDATE: Kennedy has asked the Government to respond (!) (Pursuant to Rule 21)
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Lemonus posted:Ok, well, if anyone is interested in helping educate a friendly face, Id like to try and get a better grasp of how the US SC works when it comes to receiving / considering applications/cases/motions and such. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think only four justices need to decide to hear a case. If it's sufficiently important (i.e. involves significant constitutional issues), they will hear the case. Since it's DADT, it's possible that the Court will approve certiorari. However, they can (a) very easily deny cert, or (b) defer to Congress on military decisions (see Rostker v. Goldberg), and not have to decide whether DADT is a constitutionally valid policy. Hope that helps.
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joat mon posted:It's a motion pursuant to SCOTUS Rule 22. The Chief Justice has assigned each federal circuit to a particular justice. (28 USC 42) Kennedy is the designated justice to hear such motions from the 9th circuit. Yep, and applications for stay or to dissolve stay are handled like this, and sometimes result in "in-chambers" opinions by individual justices. These opinions can, in some circumstances, be essentially dispositive of the case, such as in emergency elections matters or injunctive relief matters. There were only 3 in 2009: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/in-chambers.aspx?Term=09 and there haven't been any this year. I was lucky enough to get one of these in-chambers opinions from Stevens in 2004, which makes me really, really cool.
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I like to think that the goon pass rate is 100% for bar exams.Ersatz posted:Passed the NY bar. Any word on how the results got leaked a week early? PS Congrats
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joat mon posted:A clinic with an absence of casework? When legal aid organizations are turning people away? What do clinics do these days? I know. It's like we're just wasting our time or something!
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What's your guys' take on workers' comp. defense? I'm a Loyola grad from 2009 and I finished in the top third of my class. Even getting an interview has been pretty tough. I just interviewed with a mid-sized worker's comp. firm and they seemed really interested in me. I've never took a workers' comp. class before or know anybody that's in the field. From what I understand it's a lot of paperwork and not a lot of court experience, which doesn't sound that great since I really want to pursue litigation. Any insights or opinions?
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MFsteve posted:What's your guys' take on workers' comp. defense? I'm a Loyola grad from 2009 and I finished in the top third of my class. Even getting an interview has been pretty tough. I just interviewed with a mid-sized worker's comp. firm and they seemed really interested in me. I've never took a workers' comp. class before or know anybody that's in the field. From what I understand it's a lot of paperwork and not a lot of court experience, which doesn't sound that great since I really want to pursue litigation. Any insights or opinions? Can you eat, and obtain current shelter by, your eventual goals of being a litigator? If the answer is no, I don't see a dilemma here.
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MFsteve posted:What's your guys' take on workers' comp. defense? I'm a Loyola grad from 2009 and I finished in the top third of my class. Even getting an interview has been pretty tough. I just interviewed with a mid-sized worker's comp. firm and they seemed really interested in me. I've never took a workers' comp. class before or know anybody that's in the field. From what I understand it's a lot of paperwork and not a lot of court experience, which doesn't sound that great since I really want to pursue litigation. Any insights or opinions? Take it. Defending workers' comp claims will still teach you a lot of the paper skills that you need to learn as a young litigator, even though you won't learn how to run a trial or how to come up with complex defense strategies. It's better than nothing, and in a few years you could transfer to something else because you'll have actual legal experience under your belt.
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MFsteve posted:What's your guys' take on workers' comp. defense? I'm a Loyola grad from 2009 and I finished in the top third of my class. Even getting an interview has been pretty tough. I just interviewed with a mid-sized worker's comp. firm and they seemed really interested in me. I've never took a workers' comp. class before or know anybody that's in the field. From what I understand it's a lot of paperwork and not a lot of court experience, which doesn't sound that great since I really want to pursue litigation. Any insights or opinions? If you want court experience, go in crim or in family. Otherwise, you're going to be doing paper law. Paper law's goddamn important though. And then the judge will make loving horrible rulings and destroy all your faith in the law.
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MFsteve posted:What's your guys' take on workers' comp. defense? I'm a Loyola grad from 2009 and I finished in the top third of my class. Even getting an interview has been pretty tough. I just interviewed with a mid-sized worker's comp. firm and they seemed really interested in me. I've never took a workers' comp. class before or know anybody that's in the field. From what I understand it's a lot of paperwork and not a lot of court experience, which doesn't sound that great since I really want to pursue litigation. Any insights or opinions? Only half kidding. I'm getting desperate here.
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nm posted:Wanna start a lovely crim defense firm in norcal with me? Sounds good to me. Do we get a holiday bonus? Also, I forgot to mention that the work comp. firm requires 250 billed hours a month! How is that even possible??
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MFsteve posted:Also, I forgot to mention that the work comp. firm requires 250 billed hours a month! How is that even possible?? WHOA.
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nm posted:Wanna start a lovely crim defense firm in norcal with me? wouldn't that be a step down for you? I thought you already had a job as a pd
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MFsteve posted:Sounds good to me. Do we get a holiday bonus? Do what everyone else does and make poo poo up.
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Shang Yang posted:wouldn't that be a step down for you? I thought you already had a job as a pd
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nm posted:County budgets suck Wastin are tax dollars puttin criminals back on the street - you make me sick
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MFsteve posted:Sounds good to me. Do we get a holiday bonus? Shitlaw firm requires 3,000 hours a year and probably pays like 50k? This should be in the OP.
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Adar posted:Shitlaw firm requires 3,000 hours a year and probably pays like 50k? This should be in the OP. It's actually 70K. Dunno if that makes a difference though...
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Cortina posted:I passed. will you be my gf
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Went to New England Webcomics Weekend today. Brought some bad comics.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Wastin are tax dollars puttin criminals back on the street - you make me sick gently caress this gay earth. Actually, I may have a job, I just don't know yet and that is driving me insane.
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