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Elmo Oxygen posted:So which one is better: Divine Divinity or Beyond Divinity? My understanding is that the sequel isn't all that great, and that the original is decent, and sprawling.
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The original is better and, once you get past the initial dungeon, is quite good.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:10
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Elmo Oxygen posted:So which one is better: Divine Divinity or Beyond Divinity? Though if you haven't played Gothic 2 or the Realms of Arkadia games you should consider getting one of those. Needle fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 18, 2010 |
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Nov 18, 2010 23:17
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Why don't they have the 1st Witcher on there, or do you think they'll release it to build interest before the sequel arrives
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Nov 18, 2010 23:27
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Elmo Oxygen posted:So which one is better: Divine Divinity or Beyond Divinity? Divine. It's good but it's kind of easy to get stuck in, as despite GoG themselves patching the game it's still a little buggy. If ever there was game that fit the phrase "good, but not full-price good" this would be it.
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DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:Why don't they have the 1st Witcher on there, or do you think they'll release it to build interest before the sequel arrives Because they're probably still making good money off of it selling it for $20. They'll put it up for $10 early next year, probably, to build anticipation for 2.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:30
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Elias_Maluco posted:That´s almost convincing me to buy even though Im not actually interested in Witcher 2 Neither am I, actually. I bought 1 ages ago and never got anywhere with it, but if at any point I should get an itch for 2 I'll know where to get it! Yudo posted:The other issue with the original release was the horrid, unintelligible translation. In "The Witcher: Enhanced Edition" it became a very fun RPG. I really am not interested in buying two versions of this game But the original release of Witcher was freely upgradeable to the Enhanced Edition via a hugeass patch 
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Nov 18, 2010 23:35
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These Fuckers! I was so going to pre-order this from gog.com, but I really want those geraldo bust and card deck that come with physical collectors edition. It cost 100 euros, but gently caress it looks awesome.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:36
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Needle posted:Though if you haven't played Gothic 2 or the Realms of Arkadia games you should consider getting one of those. Gothic 2 is pretty fun, but beware that it has issues aplenty with some nvidia video cards. There is a pretty common issue where the game becomes unplayably glitchy and choppy after leaving the first tower, and answer is pretty much, "Do the latest drivers not help? No? Sucks to be you."
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Nov 18, 2010 23:39
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I wasn't planning on buying Witcher 2 right away. I was going to wait to see how it was received, and then I probably would have waited a couple more years for the price to come down. This announcement changed my mind. I've done the pre-order, and I will buy it at launch. I want to support their plan. I want this to work.
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Nov 18, 2010 23:59
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Lord_Pigeonbane posted:I wasn't planning on buying Witcher 2 right away. I was going to wait to see how it was received, and then I probably would have waited a couple more years for the price to come down. Same, already done the preorder and sporting one of the wallpapers on my laptop.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:13
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Wait, what? They're actually giving us Euro people compensations for our higher pricing? And no DRM?  GoG will have my monies, if only to support the no-DRM policy.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:23
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MonkeyforaHead posted:But the original release of Witcher was freely upgradeable to the Enhanced Edition via a hugeass patch Which didn't do much for people who were unable to even install the original due to DRM issues.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:36
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I wish they would put the Witcher up, I never played it.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:42
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sethsez posted:Which didn't do much for people who were unable to even install the original due to DRM issues. There was one? I wasn't the of the early players. I was interested in the game, but first time I got this game was the 10 euro edition of the special edition this year. The one with the fat manual. The fact that it was 10 euros AND it had huge manual was a heavy plus in its favour. The fact it was awesome was a bonus.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:43
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AxeManiac posted:I wish they would put the Witcher up, I never played it. They'll probably put it up about 2 months before the sequel is due. It also wouldn't surprise me if it'll be free for people who pre-purchase.
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Nov 19, 2010 00:54
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AxeManiac posted:I wish they would put the Witcher up, I never played it. It'll probably be on sale at Christmas on any one of the big DD sites, grab it then. It's really good and worth your time, aside from the slightly wonky combat.
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Nov 19, 2010 01:00
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AxeManiac posted:I wish they would put the Witcher up, I never played it. I'm curious what you think of it, being a huge Risen fan and all.
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Nov 19, 2010 02:28
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Ansob. posted:It'll probably be on sale at Christmas on any one of the big DD sites, grab it then. It's really good and worth your time, aside from the slightly wonky combat. And that area around Act III where you spend two or three hours doing nothing but running back and forth delivering messages and doing detective work. That made me want to rip my face off.
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I actually really enjoyed that part.
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Yeah the detective part was a really novel experience for an RPG. It doesn't hold up well on a replay though, obviously. I was just going about my business, interviewing suspects around town when I noticed my amulet going berserk in the corner of the screen. It sent a chill up my spine. Elmo Oxygen fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Nov 19, 2010 |
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Nov 19, 2010 02:50
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It made me stop playing the game - I was already finding the game to be un-engaging, but that really sealed it for me. I'm not even sure why I found the Witcher so boring, because I prefer my games long and boring. -shrug- I'm hoping The Witcher 2 will be solid, though. Faffel fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 19, 2010 |
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Nov 19, 2010 02:52
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My computer can barely play the original Witcher, it sure as hell won't be able to play Witcher 2, however i just plonked the money and preordered it. Even if the release date gets pushed back i believe i won't regret this, and i can always slap a new videocard and add memory to my rig. I just want to reward a company that treats costumers the way this guys are doing by giving them my money. I want this A+ game/DRM-free thing to work, and see if other companies take notice. This could be a turning point of sorts for the industry.
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Nov 19, 2010 02:59
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Faffel posted:And that area around Act III where you spend two or three hours doing nothing but running back and forth delivering messages and doing detective work. That made me want to rip my face off. Urgh, are you remembering the entirety of Act 4? It's almost completely fetch quests from one end of the area to the other. And the areas are huge, especially with no fast travel system. Walk walk walk walk cutscene walk walk walk walk cutscene. Still one of my favorite games though.
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Danger Mahoney posted:Urgh, are you remembering the entirety of Act 4? It's almost completely fetch quests from one end of the area to the other. And the areas are huge, especially with no fast travel system. Walk walk walk walk cutscene walk walk walk walk cutscene. I'm not sure - I never beat the game, and Act IV is the end right? It sounds familiar, though. Thinking back on it, the first quarter of the game was quite strong - the poo poo with the ghost dog was dull, but right after then it got good until I gave up after the fetch quests.
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Faffel posted:I'm not sure - I never beat the game, and Act IV is the end right? It sounds familiar, though. Thinking back on it, the first quarter of the game was quite strong - the poo poo with the ghost dog was dull, but right after then it got good until I gave up after the fetch quests. There's an act V. It's really drat epic. I loved that section.
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Act V is short, and the endgame is the best I've ever played, especially for an RPG.
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teethgrinder posted:Act V is short, and the endgame is the best I've ever played, especially for an RPG. Would you mind spoiling it for me? I was disappointed in the climactic battle in teh druid grove, and I don't really remember what the story was after you killed that dude.
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Danger Mahoney posted:Urgh, are you remembering the entirety of Act 4? It's almost completely fetch quests from one end of the area to the other. And the areas are huge, especially with no fast travel system. Walk walk walk walk cutscene walk walk walk walk cutscene.
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I quit The Witcher for good shortly after the Swamp (Act 2, I think?). I ended up short two runes for at least 4 hours of game time and I got tired of just running around killing Wyverns. Plus I felt that the developer was trying as hard as they could to make Geralt as boring of a character as possible. I don't mind shoehorning the player into a particular character (Torment and Mass Effect do fine or better with this) but that was just... dull. Contrast the character's "piece of driftwood"-caliber charisma with the comically slutty female characters (every single one, Jesus Christ) and I concluded $40 was way too much for a ren faire porn delivery program. It was the first game purchase I ever truly regretted making. Anyway I tried getting back into it with the patch but the combat was just too much pointless grind. I kind of found The Witcher to be, in many ways, a rebuke of "modernizing" influence in CRPGs - There's been a push from the big name companies (Bioware / Bethesda / Obsidian / etc.) that story and choices are secondary to gameplay, that if you don't make the meat of your game (in most cases the combat) fun, it's not worth piling on the rest of it. The Witcher has scads of story and choice, but that's wedged between countless hours of mind-numbing grind and bloat. I like rock/ paper/scissors as much as the next guy, but not enough to sit through 50+ hours of it, certainly not when you've got characters as paper-thin as these. Huge disappointment. Anyway! Starting a BG2 run as a cavalier. It was either that or a thief kit, and thieves make poor PCs, I've found. I've always gravitated towards spellcasters but playing as a heavy will allow me to shake up my party makeup a bit. Even after years of play I still haven't completed a SoA / ToB run through with Jan, Haer-Dalis, Edwin (poo poo, never even had him in my party), Korgan or whatever the dwarf's name is, or a full run with Valygar. Gonna have to change that!
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thepopstalinist posted:the big name companies (Bioware / Bethesda / Obsidian / etc.) that story and choices are secondary to gameplay, that if you don't make the meat of your game (in most cases the combat). The MSJ fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Nov 19, 2010 |
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Nov 19, 2010 06:25
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I never beat The Witcher, but I really enjoyed my time with it. I mostly stopped because I just have really bad gamer ADD. I stopped playing a few hours into some swampy area. Just for curiosity's sake, what percent of the way through, roughly, would you say I was?
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Nov 19, 2010 06:33
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In terms of percentage of the game, not all that far, I believe. It's the second act - First act is in some village and the surrounding area, and the second act takes place in the city and the swamp. I can't remember how many acts there are, but you're still in the beginning stages.The MSJ posted:Obsidian really don't belong there. Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Nov 19, 2010 |
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The MSJ posted:Obsidian really don't belong there. True enough, Obsidian would never spend that much time on balanced, stable gameplay as they would their precious story,
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I never beat The Witcher, but I really enjoyed my time with it. I mostly stopped because I just have really bad gamer ADD. I stopped playing a few hours into some swampy area. Just for curiosity's sake, what percent of the way through, roughly, would you say I was? Well the swamp area everyone complains about is act 2 and there are 5 acts plus the epilogue. Acts 4,5 and the epilogue are fairly short compaired to the others so depending on how far you got you were probably about a third of the way through the game.
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I've never been able to enjoy old RPGs, though I keep trying to. I read that Baldur's Gate 2 is pretty cool, and I also hear it's multiplayer. Would playing it co-op the first time through be a good idea? Is there anything you can or can't do in multiplayer that is different than single player? How does it work exactly? My experience with these games is disliking Fallout, 20 minutes of BG1, iffy thoughts on Diablo, and such. I also can't stand to play The Witcher for more than a few minutes without falling asleep, so RPGs arn't always my thing it seems.
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thepopstalinist posted:I quit The Witcher for good shortly after the Swamp (Act 2, I think?). I ended up short two runes for at least 4 hours of game time and I got tired of just running around killing Wyverns. Plus I felt that the developer was trying as hard as they could to make Geralt as boring of a character as possible. I don't mind shoehorning the player into a particular character (Torment and Mass Effect do fine or better with this) but that was just... dull. Contrast the character's "piece of driftwood"-caliber charisma with the comically slutty female characters (every single one, Jesus Christ) and I concluded $40 was way too much for a ren faire porn delivery program. It was the first game purchase I ever truly regretted making. I think that those are fair criticisms, and despite my affection for the game I can say that it had a load of really really bad design decisions. That said, I think that a lot of folks would really be missing out on a really great game of they skipped it. There are a few things to absolutely KNOW before they go into the game to make it enjoyable: - First, the designers really wanted to pad the game length, so there are a multitude of side quests that have absolutely no effect on the game. Most of them are boring, and absolutely zero are necessary. I mean none; you never need gold in the game ever except one instance in which you need 100 bucks. All those "kill x number of y monster" quests net you absolutely nothing. The only fun side quest (in my opinion) is the dice poker quests, but even those don't get you anything. In short, feel free to skip any quests that bores you without fear of penalty. - Second, the best steel sword is in a chest in the chapter 2 swamp. The best silver sword is given to you as a part of the normal story line in chapter 4. There is no need to ever try to get runes or meteorites. That's just more padding. - Third, yeah the game it really juvenile about sex. You can basically gently caress every woman in the game, but you have to go out of your way to make it happen other than three or so that happen in the normal storyline.
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Holy poo poo this Witcher 2 offer is awesome. I had no plans of preordering it but if GOG insists on doing offers I can't refuse... At this point I'd preorder it even without the EU credit, just to support their no DRM policy. Now here's to hoping it'll actually be a good game too. The trailer looked pretty good, and I have confidence that CDProjekt can do a quality game. Although, hopefully the english version will be a bit better translated this time so we don't have to wait a patch to fix hilarious plotholes like the act1 "wait what raped? who raped who? " in the first game.
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SpRahl posted:Well the swamp area everyone complains about is act 2 and there are 5 acts plus the epilogue. Acts 4,5 and the epilogue are fairly short compaired to the others so depending on how far you got you were probably about a third of the way through the game. Huh, but wasn't the detective stuff act 3? I'm pretty sure I did that. I'm probably just confusing the order of things in my mind, I'm finding out that I really don't remember much about the game other than its mechanics, and the ridiculous sex card stuff.
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thepopstalinist posted:I kind of found The Witcher to be, in many ways, a rebuke of "modernizing" influence in CRPGs - There's been a push from the big name companies (Bioware / Bethesda / Obsidian / etc.) that story and choices are secondary to gameplay, that if you don't make the meat of your game (in most cases the combat) fun, it's not worth piling on the rest of it. The Witcher has scads of story and choice, but that's wedged between countless hours of mind-numbing grind and bloat. I like rock/ paper/scissors as much as the next guy, but not enough to sit through 50+ hours of it, certainly not when you've got characters as paper-thin as these. Huge disappointment.  Bethesda games all have hundreds of hours of horrible combat and paper-thin characters. Bioware realized people only care about the story and choices and started making 10 hour interactive movies with nominal amounts of combat, exploration and dating simulation. On top of that, there was never a point in the Witcher where I felt I had to "grind" for anything. If something was too tough when I first encountered it, I could always go work on some other quest or storyline and handle it later.
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