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Jibo posted:I'm sorry. ZoE1 was a crappy game. I understand there are a lot of people who share my opinion who love the second one and I can accept that, but I refuse to believe there's anyone outside of the hardcore Otaku crowd who like the first one. I thought it was passably fun. The sequel is better in every single regard and completely dwarfs the original, but I wouldn't say the first was an Otaku-Only experience. Granted I skipped every cutscene cause those were bad. The GBA tactics game, Fist of Mars, was amazing in the sense that they implemented a feature which meant the player always took 0 damage and the enemy always got hit, typically for critical damage. I still do not understand how that passed testing, but whatever I love me some unlimited winning.
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Barudak posted:I thought it was passably fun. The sequel is better in every single regard Even writing and acting?
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Doc Hawkins posted:Even writing and acting? Yep. The protagonist of 2 is, to quote EGM, a hairy-balled hero and not a whiny little kid.
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Policenaut posted:Liked it better in La Mulana. While we are talking about the theme of obsession, how does this one play out?
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Wash your hands man posted:While we are talking about the theme of obsession, how does this one play out? The whole point of La Mulana is to find the treasure of La Mulana, at the end of the game you discover it of course but at the end of the credits sequence it's stolen from you. At this point you can continue playing the game, and if you explore around a bit more you can hear about a "secret forbidden treasure". Of course you want to find it because, hey, that dick stole your treasure! So you begin to follow the clues that get increasingly obscure and outright impossible without prior knowledge and discover a new dungeon called the "Hell Temple", where its full of dozens of insanely hard rooms full of traps and gimmicks that take forever to complete. Including a punishment room you'll see countless times that's full of sub bosses that have to be beaten every time you fall down into it. You're constantly told that the treasure is forbidden and you shouldn't find it and so on, but you just have to have this treasure apparently. And so at the very end of this dungeon, after memorizing how to complete every room perfectly, you have a chat with the guy who sent you here who gives you one final "don't do it man" sort of speech before the treasure. If you continue on, you get your magical treasure: a skimpy revealing blue swimsuit, which the game then depicts your 8-bit body in slightly disturbing detail in drawn anime form. Then it cuts back to the 8-bit scene with "STUPID" written on the screen and the guy from before laughing at you for being an idiot. This item doesn't appear in your inventory and has no function whatsoever in the game.. It's not so much as a "message" like Braid, but more of a sadistic practical joke played by the developers. If you'd like to see this in video form, here's the episode of the Let's Play featuring it. Skip to around 2:50 and just watch from there. To get an idea of the suffering a person goes through to get there, any of these Hell Temple episodes can explain it better than I could.
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Dec 2, 2010 07:34
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Are you ready for the end, La-Mulanites?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:My apologies if this has been posted before, but does anyone else, outside of those keeping up with the 'Terrible Video Game Advertisements' thread, remember the rumour going around that Twilight Princess' version of Hyrule was SO huge that it would take 45 minutes to cross, on horseback? Before it came out, there was a rumor I heard about Ocarina of Time stating that, while it was possible to beat the game without the horse, it would take years to do so because of the vast landscapes. Never mind that the rumor was completely absurd to begin with, but my little mind wanted to believe it so badly.
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Jibo posted:I'm sorry. ZoE1 was a crappy game. I understand there are a lot of people who share my opinion who love the second one and I can accept that, but I refuse to believe there's anyone outside of the hardcore Otaku crowd who like the first one. I liked it! ... before the second one came out.
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Barudak posted:Tanker, Second Level, Dining Room. The room also features cooking pans that make unique noise dependent on their size when you shoot them and condiment bottles and dispensers that can be individually broken. This is literally the only time in the game the ice shows up, the pans and condiment bottles make a slight cameo in on the Big Shell where you encounter the Bomb Disposal Expert. It Only Does: Realistic Ice Cube Melting
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Barudak posted:Tanker, Second Level, Dining Room. The room also features cooking pans that make unique noise dependent on their size when you shoot them and condiment bottles and dispensers that can be individually broken. This is literally the only time in the game the ice shows up, the pans and condiment bottles make a slight cameo in on the Big Shell where you encounter the Bomb Disposal Expert. This reminds me: Crysis has oil barrels that are way too realistic. Shoot one of them near the top? It will leak until the oil level has fallen below the hole. Shoot at the bottom? It will leak until the oil level reaches that hole. The amount of oil even affects the angle and pressure of the leak.
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Dec 2, 2010 15:15
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How can you hate the MGS plots? They're such obvious trolls (mixed with a coherent/serious idea every once in a while).
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ymgve posted:This reminds me: Crysis has oil barrels that are way too realistic. Shoot one of them near the top? It will leak until the oil level has fallen below the hole. Shoot at the bottom? It will leak until the oil level reaches that hole. The amount of oil even affects the angle and pressure of the leak. Outside of the pressure thing, this was done before in Timesplitters: Future Perfect.
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Dec 2, 2010 15:22
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a japanese pop icon posted:How can you hate the MGS plots? They're such obvious trolls (mixed with a coherent/serious idea every once in a while). Just because something is intentionally made to be unlikeable doesn't mean it's automatically good and worthwhile. In fact, that's a pretty stupid standard to have.
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Dec 2, 2010 15:22
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Why do you guys always need validation? Who cares if you enjoy a video game's story?
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a japanese pop icon posted:How can you hate the MGS plots? They're such obvious trolls (mixed with a coherent/serious idea every once in a while). Some people like things they can enjoy unironically.
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There was also a flat screen monitor in the Tanker, in the same room as the ice bucket. If you shot the screen, it broke where you shot, and the picture crapped out from the point of impact going outward, in a circular wave. (I'm not doing a good job of describing this, but I remember being impressed at the time.) I also dug the rain in your eyes first-person view on the tanker. I didn't stop playing MGS games because the plots devolved into supernatural mumbo-jumbo; MGS has always been ridiculous and supernatural. I mean... Psycho Mantis? Vulcan Raven? The real reason I stopped playing is that I guess when I was 18, I was more tolerant of that sorta poo poo and the extremely linear gameplay. Ten years later, I wasn't as tolerant of either. (Oh yeah, and couldn't justify the $600 buy-in for a PS3 at the time.)
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betterinsodapop posted:There was also a flat screen monitor in the Tanker, in the same room as the ice bucket. If you shot the screen, it broke where you shot, and the picture crapped out from the point of impact going outward, in a circular wave. (I'm not doing a good job of describing this, but I remember being impressed at the time.) I also dug the rain in your eyes first-person view on the tanker. Though I know I'm just continuing on the tangent, MGS4 is the worst in the series in terms of... everything, IMO. Bad story, HORRIBLE pacing, variable gameplay, etc. The good parts are good, but the bad are... very bad. So you didn't miss out too much.
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Dec 2, 2010 17:52
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Re: The ice is MGS. Two cubes close together melt slower than others farther apart. Crazy detail man
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a japanese pop icon posted:How can you hate the MGS plots? They're such obvious trolls (mixed with a coherent/serious idea every once in a while). 
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Dec 2, 2010 20:50
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Strudel Man posted:I don't like obvious trolls in general. And thus the troll succeeds.
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RagnarokAngel posted:And thus the troll succeeds.
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Dec 2, 2010 20:59
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Outside of the pressure thing, this was done before in Timesplitters: Future Perfect. I'm pretty sure this was in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, too.
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Dec 2, 2010 21:26
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The first Splinter Cell had a fish tank that did that, but it was stationary.
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ymgve posted:This reminds me: Crysis has oil barrels that are way too realistic. Shoot one of them near the top? It will leak until the oil level has fallen below the hole. Shoot at the bottom? It will leak until the oil level reaches that hole. The amount of oil even affects the angle and pressure of the leak. Is it really fair to accuse Crysis of having features that are too realistic? Now if you'll excuse me, there are North Koreans that need nano-strength choking.
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I like what Kojima-san does with his stories and how he uses games to troll gamers even if they are incredibly silly.
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I miss Kojima when his games were basically just Japanified versions of American movies smashed together, like Snatcher (Terminator/Blade Runner) and Policenauts (Lethal Weapon in Space)
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I like what MGS2 did with showing how Snake is viewed from the outside, as a sort of 2nd-person MGS game. It's one of the few things he has done really well. Twin Snakes is also a pretty good parody of remakes in general. The jeep chase is hilarious.
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Policenaut posted:I miss Kojima when his games were basically just Japanified versions of American movies smashed together, like Snatcher (Terminator/Blade Runner) and Policenauts (Lethal Weapon in Space) Don't forget Metal gear solid 3, or should I say the best james bond game. Suzumiya Haruhi-tan posted:Twin Snakes is also a pretty good parody of remakes in general. The jeep chase is hilarious. I'm pretty sure kojima didn't have anything to do with twin snakes.
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Clever Spambot posted:I'm pretty sure kojima didn't have anything to do with twin snakes. Kojima was the one who requested that the cutscene director should make the cutscenes less like MGS1 and more like the action movies the guy did.
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Yep the story goes that the game originally had cut scenes closer to the original game. But then Kojima stepped in and said that if you are going to re make the game, make it crazy.
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Speaking of bizarrely detailed little touches, in Mass Effect 2 at the very beginning of Jack's loyalty mission you start outside in the rain. This is the only time in the game where it rains, and you're only outside for a few seconds, but if you zoom in close (and I was on the PC with maxed settings so everything looked better) there's this ridiculously well-done effect of water streaming off of your armor. It could just be a built-in ability of Unreal 3 that took 5 minutes to implement, but otherwise it was a gorgeous effect that served absolutely no purpose and the majority of gamers won't even notice.
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betterinsodapop posted:I didn't stop playing MGS games because the plots devolved into supernatural mumbo-jumbo; MGS has always been ridiculous and supernatural. I mean... Psycho Mantis? Vulcan Raven? The real reason I stopped playing is that I guess when I was 18, I was more tolerant of that sorta poo poo and the extremely linear gameplay. Ten years later, I wasn't as tolerant of either. (Oh yeah, and couldn't justify the $600 buy-in for a PS3 at the time.) WRONG TIMES A MILLION, LET'S FIGHT ABOUT IT No genuinely the ridiculous poo poo is exactly what I have grown in tolerance for. The bad attempts at serious-minded conspiracy/social commentary, plot twists, and pathos are what disappoint me now but I have infinity tolerance for the craziness. Takes all kinds, I guess *every schizophrenic computer president, homomasculine vampire, making GBS threads chirping battlebot, sexually deviant idiot savant, communist twelve-year-old, psychic kgb ghost, photosynthetic grandpa, and cyborg masochist comes in with everything for a HUGE videogame*
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Speaking of bizarrely detailed little touches, in Mass Effect 2 at the very beginning of Jack's loyalty mission you start outside in the rain. This is the only time in the game where it rains, and you're only outside for a few seconds, but if you zoom in close (and I was on the PC with maxed settings so everything looked better) there's this ridiculously well-done effect of water streaming off of your armor. It could just be a built-in ability of Unreal 3 that took 5 minutes to implement, but otherwise it was a gorgeous effect that served absolutely no purpose and the majority of gamers won't even notice. Gears of War also had a beautiful rain effect, so it's either a built-in feature of Unreal 3 or a common piece of sample code Epic gives out.
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swamp waste posted:WRONG TIMES A MILLION, LET'S FIGHT ABOUT IT Haha. Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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haveblue posted:Gears of War also had a beautiful rain effect, so it's either a built-in feature of Unreal 3 or a common piece of sample code Epic gives out. I don't remember the water running off the characters in Gear though. Also, if you stand under a stream of water coming off the rooftops it'll splash on the character.
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People often say Barrett is the only black man in the world, which isn't true. In fact, he isn't even the blackest: Myth busted 
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Heran Bago posted:People often say Barrett is the only black man in the world, which isn't true. In fact, he isn't even the blackest: He may just be a guy in extensive blackface. With that gym, you can never be sure.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:With that gym, you can never be sure. 
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Don't forget Rude.
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