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bobkatt013 posted:Then in the eighth gets his neck snapped by Angel Angel or Angelus? Care to explain a bit, for those of us (me) who don't read the comics?
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Assless Chaps posted:Angel or Angelus? Care to explain a bit, for those of us (me) who don't read the comics? I would do but the comic is an incomprehensible mess so I've really no idea what was happening.
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PriorMarcus posted:I would do but the comic is an incomprehensible mess so I've really no idea what was happening. I'm glad it's not just me. That poo poo is impossible to follow. I prefer After the Fall just because I have a loving idea of what's going on.
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Jan 5, 2011 17:30
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-Blackadder- posted:
I recently did the same thing...I was in the same boat as you, a huge Buffy fan and a mediocre Angel fan. After re-watching Angel, I really came to realize that it is a WAY better show than Buffy (Well, except the Jasmine storyline). Especially Season 5...I marathoned through the last 8 episodes because I just couldn't stop one night. =D
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Jan 5, 2011 17:41
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Angel got possessed by the consciousness of a sentient dimension that he and Buffy gave birth to by having sex and I really wish I was making this up
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Jan 5, 2011 17:43
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AmbassadorFriendly posted:I'm glad it's not just me. That poo poo is impossible to follow. Yeah, I got to the one where they teleport a submarine to Tibet and realised I really didn't give a poo poo anymore and stopped reading. Apparently it gets worse from there.
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Assless Chaps posted:Angel or Angelus? Care to explain a bit, for those of us (me) who don't read the comics? Neither really, Angel and Buffy get chosen to create a new universe. They do so by loving in outer space, they then abandon it to save their friends. The universe gets pissed and possesses Angel to steal a giant magical gem that's the source of all magic in the world. Giles gets in the way and get's his neck snapped Calendar style.
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Jan 5, 2011 17:48
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I am all for season 9 if they make Brian Vaughan the showrunner, he's a huge Buffy fan, made one of the few good arcs of the comics, and doesn't seem to have been doing anything visible since last year.
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Gassire posted:Neither really, Angel and Buffy get chosen to create a new universe. They do so by loving in outer space, they then abandon it to save their friends. The universe gets pissed and possesses Angel to steal a giant magical gem that's the source of all magic in the world. Giles gets in the way and get's his neck snapped Calendar style. Yup, far, far worse. What the gently caress?
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Gassire posted:Neither really, Angel and Buffy get chosen to create a new universe. They do so by loving in outer space, they then abandon it to save their friends. The universe gets pissed and possesses Angel to steal a giant magical gem that's the source of all magic in the world. Giles gets in the way and get's his neck snapped Calendar style. My reaction to this was basically:     What the gently caress?
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To be fair, they didn't create a universe by loving in outer space, but it was something about how he is the yin to her yang and she was chosen to ascend to a higher dimension because she shared her slayer power which resulted in her and Angel getting superpowers and having sex in mountains, space, and the ocean because they were so horny. Not that that is in any way more coherent or makes any sense at all. I also haven't read the part about Giles yet since I wait for the volumes to come out, so if they changed it then I don't know.
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Jan 5, 2011 21:03
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Those comics sound about as well written as Dollhouse.
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Those comics sound about as well written as Dollhouse. They aren't.
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Jan 5, 2011 22:42
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It started off with such promise, too. Ugh.
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Eh, the best part was the Faith arc. It's been mostly terrible since then.
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For once in my life I can say "I'm happy that I stopped right before it got to the loving". Who thought that was a good idea, seriously? Sure, it probably sold a bunch of copies to fangirls bu-- ohhh, I get it.
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Spaceboy posted:For once in my life I can say "I'm happy that I stopped right before it got to the loving". Who thought that was a good idea, seriously? Sure, it probably sold a bunch of copies to fangirls bu-- ohhh, I get it. The vast majority of Buffy fangirls are probably pissed the all-sex issue wasn't about Buffy and Spike (or Angel and Spike), so it doesn't even really make sense from a fanservice perspective.
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A Big Dark Yak posted:The vast majority of Buffy fangirls are probably pissed the all-sex issue wasn't about Buffy and Spike (or Angel and Spike), so it doesn't even really make sense from a fanservice perspective. They also had Buffy hooking up with a chick
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bobkatt013 posted:They also had Buffy hooking up with a chick And Dawn became a centaur, so the furry angle was covered.
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GORDON posted:And Dawn became a centaur, so the furry angle was covered. But she got better and is now banging Xander bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jan 6, 2011 |
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bobkatt013 posted:But she got better and is now banging Xander And that is where anyone defending the Buffy comics loses their argument.
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GORDON posted:And Dawn became a centaur, so the furry angle was covered. bobkatt013 posted:But she got better and is now banging Xander  Are you serious?
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Jan 6, 2011 04:52
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In the Angel comics Illyria went into heat and the pheromones made Angel have a three-way with Kate and a half-panther lady.
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daggerdragon posted:
Yes I am its ridiculous. Also about Kate was it because she was a lesbian?
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Argue posted:In the Angel comics Illyria went into heat and the pheromones made Angel have a three-way with Kate and a half-panther lady. Never trust a writer whose big break was from writing porn comics.
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I think I stopped reading the Buffy Season 8 comics during the Fray arc because I just didn't know what the gently caress was going on. Glad to see I haven't been missing anything worthwhile, though.
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The Fray arc was actually good though  One of the three arcs I enjoyed, the other two being Faith and Dracula. Sooo what did everyone think of Book's finally-revealed backstory? For the lazy, here's the plot points, in the order they were presented: Became a shepherd. Was a disgraced Alliance hero. He ordered an attack that was a devastating loss to the Alliance. Turns out he was a browncoat mole the whole time and had killed the real Book. One eye is synthetic and was broadcasting everything he saw to the browncoats. I thought it was okay but was kind of disappointed he wasn't an operative. Edit: no, Kate's not a lesbian yet Argue fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Jan 6, 2011 |
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Argue posted:I thought it was okay but was kind of disappointed he wasn't an operative. Yeah, I really thought it was a lot cooler for his story to be left a little vague, but with the strong implication that he was an operative. That idea adds some more meaning to the operative's storyline in Serenity, and explains things like Book's serious skills and the urgency with which the Alliance treated him when he was shot more easily than he was an apparently-disgraced Alliance soldier.
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Argue posted:
I wanted him to be one too. I don't really like any of the Firefly extra material despite my need for closure...it all just seems rushed and not really the vision Whedon would have had in his mind if he had been able to do seven seasons and so on. This includes Serenity. Thinking about Firefly makes me sad. It was a really awesome show, I don't understand how it got cancelled. 
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Ovation has been showing Firefly all week, culminating in a series marathon today. Now I'd seen Serenity before ever seeing an episode of Firefly(Though I've been aware of the series and its history from various places online) and thought it was an okay sci-fi movie, but loving hell its a crime that there isn't more of this show. It's only just dawned on me that I've seen all there is and a 8-9 year old show was the best thing on tv this week.
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It's funny that when I loan out my Firefly discs to someone that hasn't seen them before, my disclaimer is usually that "they had better watch them with the knowledge that it'd been canceled, as at the end, they'll be heartbroken that there isn't more."
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People posted:Comics WHAT? Dear god, I'm so glad I stopped reading the Angel comics after After The Fall ended. It sounds like whoever is writing them went batshit insane. And I'm not even going to touch the Buffy ones, holy poo poo they've descended into horrible fanfic.
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Gordon Shumway posted:
Essentially, yes. Movies/TV rarely, if ever, translates well to comics. Sadly, I just don't think they're particularly compatible formats. I think that it's largely due to writers thinking they can paint on a MUCH larger canvas than could ever be used on the show. And as many have said before, limits are what inspires great things - not a lack of them.
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Psimitry posted:Essentially, yes. Movies/TV rarely, if ever, translates well to comics. Sadly, I just don't think they're particularly compatible formats. I think that it's largely due to writers thinking they can paint on a MUCH larger canvas than could ever be used on the show. And as many have said before, limits are what inspires great things - not a lack of them. There's a change of format, and then there's magical sex in space. I don't think the medium was the problem with Season 8.
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The Firefly comics...were readable, but it's just not the same. I mean, I love the actors too, every single one. There was a great dynamic between all of them, I ended up liking the characters more then many characters on a longer-lasting shows. Impressive job with fourteen episodes and eight characters.
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You know what's been on my mind ever since I started watching Firefly again? What the hell do Reavers do when they're just floating around in space? I mean, these guys are supposed to be complete mental nutcases! Who fixes the engines and cooks the (human) meat and pilots the ship? Is there a Garry the Reaver Captain who issues orders whilst flailing his arms about and screams and sews lovely human skin clothes? I don't think Joss went into enough detail about this 
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It's kind of like with zombies: why don't Reavers attack other Reavers? How do they know the difference?
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I just marathoned the second half of Dollhouse season 2 and I'm really upset that they didn't get enough time to flesh out the ending. It was moving at such a breakneck pace that I'm not even sure I understand what happened and why the story took the turn it did. I really hated the fact that Boyd ended up being bad, and then also a doll too. And I don't think the point of the vaccine that they needed Echo/Caroline's spinal fluid for was explained. It sounded like it was a vaccine against Active architecture but everyone was desperately trying to stop it when you'd think they were all for stopping the active architecture. Then they blow up the Rossom computer but the building doesn't really blow up even with a bunch of C4, and then bam the apocalypse happens anyway. Also the jarring death of Ballard in Epitaph 2 really pissed me off but was slightly redeemed when Echo finally had her emotional breakdown. In the end I really did want more. Just wish the first season had justified it's existence with incorporating more of the main story arc into the dumb missions.
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But in theory Buffy SHOULD translate well to comics. The general premise is very comicky, plus Whedon is a huge nerd who based Buffy off Kitty Pryde from the start. It's just that it really isn't very good. If I were to make an excuse, it could be because a lot of the writers were TV writers rather than comic book writerse--it's saying something that prior to the outer space sex, the better issues came from comic book veterans Whedon, Vaughan, and even Jeph Loeb (of all people).
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