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Let's not forget about Bahrain. Huge numbers at the Pearl Roundabout and beyond: Today:   So far no reports of violence thankfully.
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Brown Moses posted:Best way to keep up to date is looking at the #Tripoli tag on twitter. If you type it into Google and search for realtime results you'll get them just streaming in constantly. Yeah. But this is the best site for monitoring twitter, for those who don't know. http://twitterfall.com/ Just plug in #tripoli and watch the stream come through. You can do exclusions and all kinds of neat things. Twitter's search interface and the ajax-y update is not that good.
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quote:maya2in1 RT @EnoughGaddafi: Mitiga barraks reported have joined people and now marching with people from Tajoura towards center of the #Tripoli #libya #feb17 Sounds like the end is nigh. Said Gaddaffi said that his father won't destroy the oil wells in an interview with CNN, but who knows how much truth there is to that. e: or if he's even capable of doing it at this point.
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Apparently planes heading to Tripoli are turning back and returning to their original airports. I'm seeing on Twitter that the rebels have captured an airport in Tripoli, not sure they mean the commercial airport or the air base that was mentioned earlier.
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Monkeytime posted:Sounds like the end is nigh. Said Gaddaffi said that his father won't destroy the oil wells in an interview with CNN, but who knows how much truth there is to that. The rebels control most of the oil wells already, so that's not going to be a problem.
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Feb 25, 2011 15:51
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Pureauthor posted:Are the blackshirted guys police? I think those are women in Abayas (on the right there). Bahraini police have tan matching uniforms.
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Feb 25, 2011 15:54
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Brown Moses posted:The rebels control most of the oil wells already, so that's not going to be a problem. unless he's willing to use air strikes. I imagine the rebels doesn't have all that much AA present, or know how to use it in any case.
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Brown Moses posted:Apparently planes heading to Tripoli are turning back and returning to their original airports. I'm seeing on Twitter that the rebels have captured an airport in Tripoli, not sure they mean the commercial airport or the air base that was mentioned earlier. Here's an interesting site that lets you monitor global air traffic: http://www.flightradar24.com/ It looks like there's a Turkish Airlines 777 that's still on course for Tripoli. The others look like they've turned back.
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Crowley posted:unless he's willing to use air strikes. I imagine the rebels doesn't have all that much AA present, or know how to use it in any case. Does he even have an air force left to carry out air strikes? It seems like whenever a Libyan gets in a plane they end up defecting or ejecting. e: On a lighter note,  Click here for the full 634x720 image. Osama in your Nescafe, huh? Narmi fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Feb 25, 2011 |
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Brown Moses posted:Apparently planes heading to Tripoli are turning back and returning to their original airports. I'm seeing on Twitter that the rebels have captured an airport in Tripoli, not sure they mean the commercial airport or the air base that was mentioned earlier. The Tweets I've seen said that it was the 'military airport' - so I'm guessing the air base. Certainly, a few responses to it talked about bombing Gudaffi's compound.
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quote:Earlier we heard reports that the Mitiga airbase had defected to anti-Gaddafi supporters. Martin Chulov tweets to confirm: Be interesting to see if the rebels have access to aircraft that could bomb Gaddafi's compound.
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cioxx posted:Yeah. That's pretty crazy. I've never liked twitter but I have to say for these purposes it's fascinating. Also sounds like there's going to be a lot of reinforcement arriving in Tripoli today. It would be amazing if they take the city in one day.
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There's reports on Twitter of armed protesters shooting back at mercenaries, tens of thousands of people on the streets, and more pouring into the centre of Tripoli. The Tajoura protesters are about 10km from Green Square, and are apparently with the army.
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There's a good saying in Middle East which goes: "Until you've seen the last, you won't remember the first." It's hard to explain this but I'll put it in current context. Remember when Mubarak sent out his thugs to shoot and throw rocks at people in Tahrir Square? People thought it was one of the most evil things he could do. Now Gaddafi having upped the game it makes Mubarak look like George Washington who stepped down / was forced out. The situation in Egypt in #Jan25 looked like the Wisconin protests compared to this poo poo. And it's getting worse and worse. Every time the revolution levels up to another nation the End Boss inflicts more damage on the people.
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I'm not big on suggesting the International Community get involved in any way militarily and I think the reaction thus far has been fairly well measured to keep their citizens safe until evacuation. The only think that I've thought might have been called for is when the Libyan Air Force was used against their protesters, an international "no fly zone" would have kept that in check. Luckily, it seems that very few actually carried those orders out so the need for such was minimal. But if it had escalated even further, would this have been something that could have been feasible and called for? I don't know but air power is a very scary thing when it comes to mostly unarmed, peaceful protesters.
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The Libyan revolution is full of dark humour, like this for example:quote:While people like Ali Tweel (see previous entry) are saying that thousands of Libyans in Tripoli are joining Gaddafi opponents marching to Green Square, Libyan state TV is reporting that supporters of the Colonel, including ''men and women, youth and children'' are heading to Green Square to ''support and take pride in the leader of the revolution".
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The Turkish Airlines flight has turned around now too. I suspect they all think once they land, there's no chance of taking off again. .. e: holy poo poo just listening to Al Jazeera English, they had someone call in, he couldn't speak good English so he talked in Arabic while they got a translator on it.. The translator was translating the phone call..which was in Arabic..the guy talking abuot a march somewhere, to a cemetery, where they were fired upon .. then the translator mid-flow switched to "give me the phone give me the phone you cannot speak to Al Jazeera" now the line has gone dead :frown: gently caress oversteer fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Feb 25, 2011 |
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I read the a Canadian flight had to take off without passangers, it looks like the Turkish flight is circling at the moment, they probably don't know what's going on. Also, I think we can safely use this : 
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OH gently caress!! The guy on AJE just got the phone taken away and people yelling " Give me the phone"
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drat, I hope that guy is OK, holy poo poo. edit: At first I thought, "Oh, his buddy or someone also wants to talk and they are arguing. Then I realized a different voice was speaking. That sucks.
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Guest just got their phone taken away while speaking live on AJE. EDIT: As many other people noted above me!
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oversteer posted:The Turkish Airlines flight has turned around now too. It looks like no one's going in or out-- an Air Canada charter was forced to take off empty before it could pick up any fleeing foreigners. Really chilling moment on AJE right now. A caller from Tripoli was describing the scene there when someone took his phone and said "give me your phone, you cannot talk to al-Jazeera" before cutting the transmission. e: beaten on both counts
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The AJE Live blog's last entry is about how much Gaddafi looks like some celebrities, and this image, probably not the most accurate reflection of the current situation:
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Caller from tripoli on AJ livestream was speaking and was intercepted by security in the middle of call. Person yelling you cant speak to al jazeera. Then caller gone. WTF edit: beaten like CG
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Among reports of people being shot there's also an increasing number of reports of mercenaries retreating, and areas been declared held by the protesters. It's really starting to look like the day Gaddafi loses Tripoli, especially if friendly military units start moving into the city.
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The US embassy has a chartered plane leaving from Mitiga airfield, the one that was seized by anti-government forces just hours ago. Makes me wonder if there hasn't been more contact between the US and the Libyan protest movement than has been made public.
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Monkeytime posted:The US embassy has a chartered plane leaving from Mitiga airfield, the one that was seized by anti-government forces just hours ago. Makes me wonder if there hasn't been more contact between the US and the Libyan protest movement than has been made public. I would bet  the cia is shaping certain things to "cause" things like that.The U.S. likely has all kinds of agents in a country like Libya.
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Rkelly posted:I would bet I was going to say the same thing. It would be very naive to think otherwise.
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My old man is in the Beda oilfield and communications have been obviously erratic, but he reckons he has enough food and homebrew and is going to wait it out. I think he is hoping to fill the despot role that will shortly be hiring. One thing I can't work out, though, is he still had a UK passport ( held ion Tripoli for the visa) but he is a Spanish citizen since he moved out there 6 years ago, got his redidencia etc. Is he the UK's problem or the EU, or is it open season on getting out? I think he is stupid staying there, but if there is one charateristic he holds dear, its being an obstinate oval office.
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Rkelly posted:I would bet Of course the CIA has agents in Libya. It is naive to assume that they would be helping the rebellion though.
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DevNull posted:Of course the CIA has agents in Libya. It is naive to assume that they would be helping the rebellion though. What makes you say that? Why would CIA bet on a losing horse?
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Reading these Tweets...it sounds like the Battle of Berlin or something. You've got the crazy dictator and all of his cronies held up in a small city desperately trying to force a populace into sticking with them.
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Trickjaw posted:
He is still a British Citizen. I don't think a Residencia entitles him to diplomatic protection from Spain. If he needs a new passport then the British embassy staff at whichever port should be able to provide him one. If he ends up in Malta, etc then I'm sure they'll process it there.
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The thing is, western governments can certainly cooperate with these movements behind the scenes, because the main threat is public assistance leading to dictators saying the protests are western-backed. I wouldn't be surprised if several governments were doing all sorts of things to aid these movements.
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Every day I check this thread and the BBC news site hoping to see something like "Gaddafi strung up from lamppost: violence ends". But it just seems that things are getting worse and worse as Gaddafi becomes more cornered. What's really depressing is that what's happening in Libya will probably be nothing compared to what might happen if uprisings start in places like Myanmar or North Korea.
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Very excited to see this may end today. Thanks Brown Moses for the updates, your helping alot! I was thinking while reading those tweets I wondered how many may be exaggerated to get more support from the international community. PR campaigns work both ways right? I'm not saying the overwhelming majority aren't true, but it is anonymous right?
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