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goatface posted:Wales could win the 6 nations in this game, that poo poo is SERIOUS. For real, who cares about Libya, we might get to see England go from having the grand slam in their sights to losing the whole tournament in the space of a few hours! On a slightly more on-topic note, anyone know anywhere Sarko's speech is being streamed? I kinda expected it to be on AJE but they are showing old Japanese people in school halls.
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Vir posted:Since he's reportedly busing in human shields to protect him, I don't think taking ol' crazy out - whether by Tomahawk or special forces team - is that easy. Easier to take out his tanks, planes and artillery. We probably already have the technology required for a UAV sniper system - you'd only have to locate a golf cart surrounded by a mob in Tripoli and take one shot. By the way, it's not exactly true that western powers never would try to kill a foreign leader when there isn't a war. In 1986 the US were very close to succeeding: quote:Forewarned by both Maltese Prime Minister Karmenu Mifsud Bonnici and Italian Prime Minister Bettino Craxi that unauthorized aircraft were flying over Maltese airspace heading south towards Tripoli, Gaddafi and his family rushed out of their residence in the compound moments before the bombs dropped from thirteen U.S. Air Force planes. Gaddafi escaped injury, but he claimed his fifteen-month-old adopted daughter Hanna was killed and that two of his sons were injured. These claims have been disputed, with some claiming that Hanna was a fabrication created for propaganda purposes.
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Jamsque posted:For real, who cares about Libya, we might get to see England go from having the grand slam in their sights to losing the whole tournament in the space of a few hours! It's okay, there's rumor of a UN resolution to create a no fly zone over the Irish side.
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ibroxmassive posted:I doubt they have, but it's a general warning. goatface posted:Gaddafi's forces have been stopping humanitarian aid reaching civilians in rebel occupied cities, I imagine it's related to that. Yeah, I figured it was aimed at Gaddafi, it was just the "all sides" bit that confused me. I guess they're probably just issuing a blanket statement since the rebels are above using human shields, and I can't see the rebels keeping the wounded from treatment since they've been treating anyone and everyone who's been injured, regardless of what side they're on.
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Mr. Mambo posted:It's like scriptable.. "This isn't Team America World Police, Sarah, and as the U.S. president I have to carefully weigh decisions in which our forces are deployed. You do want to see your son come home again, right? Because if we keep intervening in every worldwide conflict, a lot of mothers and fathers will never get a chance to see their sons and daughters again. War kills, Sarah, and our servicemen and women will be among those dead if we put them in harms way..." or, better yet "I don't concern myself with anything Sarah Palin has to say."
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My recent favourite tweets:quote:BREAKING NEWS: All of Gaddafi's snipers terrorizing people in Misurata's "Benghazi street" over the last week have been kicked out. #libya quote:And by "kicked out" I mean kicked out of this world once and for all.
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http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb Reports: cruise missiles launched from US subs explosions near Tripoli french planes over Misrata Of course it's a rebel propaganda stream so take with grain of salt.
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:
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Sky News seconds explosions in Tripoli and claims Fox News seconds US cruise missiles. Hard to make out specifics, they had a bad line with their reporter.
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb From AJE: quote:AFP reports that loud blasts have been heard east of the Tripoli, according to witnesses. It is not immediately clear what caused the blasts.
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About time the US gets involved, what loving planet do we live on where the French are the first into combat.
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I love the line everyone is walking to try and no say the goal of this is Ghaddaffi's ouster when it is so clearly the only reasonable endgame for Free Libya and the coalition.
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Nenonen posted:We probably already have the technology required for a UAV sniper system - you'd only have to locate a golf cart surrounded by a mob in Tripoli and take one shot. You know, that would send quite the message to despotic lunatics all over the world - you can run and hide and human shield yourself to your heart's content, but if you give us the will and the reason, we can still get you no matter where you go. Especially if it was him that was killed and no one else was even scratched.
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Some other Twitter reports:quote:Reports French Jets may now be over the city of Misrata which has experianced heavy shelling yesterday and today quote:BREAKING: Gaddafi forces moving from base around #Misrata, Zarroog area shelled.
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US about to gently caress poo poo up. All this cruise missile talk is giving me a boner.
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I have to echo this from Twitter:quote:I never imagined a day will come when I anxiously await US bombs to fall over an Arab country. drat you #Gaddafi.
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Arzy posted:About time the US gets involved, what loving planet do we live on where the French are the first into combat. Welcome to Erf
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More from Twitter:quote:Manara receives a phone call: French Jets bomb Gaddafi base, All city is now on the streets celebrating her freedom also #Libya Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Mar 19, 2011 |
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Cruise missiles feels a little crude to be honest. If we're only dealing with SA-5/6 in small and badly maintained numbers, and the odd ZPU, SLAMMERS could have done the job with a smaller risk of collateral.
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Arzy posted:About time the US gets involved, what loving planet do we live on where the French are the first into combat. A world where the French aren't the clumsy pantomime fools you seem to assume they are?
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Arzy posted:About time the US gets involved, what loving planet do we live on where the French are the first into combat. The same one where the Americans are usually the last. 
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Stroh M.D. posted:Cruise missiles feels a little crude to be honest. If we're only dealing with SA-5/6 in small and badly maintained numbers, and the odd ZPU, SLAMMERS could have done the job with a smaller risk of collateral. We can't say what they've specifically targeted, but I hope they are trying to minimize those risks. There should be a pentagon briefing soon.
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Sargs posted:The same one where the Americans are usually the last. 
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Arzy posted:About time the US gets involved, what loving planet do we live on where the French are the first into combat. One where the UN found its balls to actually do the right thing without the United States being the primary military force. It's nice to see.
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Stroh M.D. posted:Cruise missiles feels a little crude to be honest. If we're only dealing with SA-5/6 in small and badly maintained numbers, and the odd ZPU, SLAMMERS could have done the job with a smaller risk of collateral. There's more to Libya's air defense than that. They're likely targeting the control nexus: air defense command and control and radar installations. The missile sites themselves are secondary.
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Cameron speaking, fighting urge to punch him in the face. Just a quick comment stressing this is just, legal and right, thoughts with the military families.
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farraday posted:Cameron speaking, fighting urge to punch him in the face. It's ok, once the civil war starts we'll get a UN no-fly zone set up and international aid while we drive him out.
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Here's some Twitter account worth tracking at the moment: http://twitter.com/shabablibya http://twitter.com/LibyanDictator http://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi http://twitter.com/LibyaNewMedia
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Priapist posted:There's more to Libya's air defense than that. They're likely targeting the control nexus: air defense command and control and radar installations. The missile sites themselves are secondary. SA-5/6s are pretty self-contained. They are pretty much designed to continue operation even without a line to higher command structures (especially if said structures have been vaporized), but I guess that depends on the Libyan air defense doctrine. Admittedly, that would be information not available to us.
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AJ: US has launched cruise missiles.
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According to MSNBC, the Pentagon's labeling this "Operation Odyssey Dawn".
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Here's some live blogs worth looking at too: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418 http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-19-updates/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/19/libya-live-blog-ceasefire-nofly http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-19
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Brown Moses posted:My recent favourite tweets: Wow, the Libyan rebels got an action movie hero to write their tweets.
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Pentagon: Strikes on integrated air defense and air bases along the coast. Us is taking command and control until coalition forces. Operational control in African command under Gen Hamm(?). Tactical control on the USS Mount Whitney.
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CJSwiss posted:According to MSNBC, the Pentagon's labeling this "Operation Odyssey Dawn". Sounds like the name of an three-part sci-fi anime epic re-telling the story of the Iliad with the role of Odysseus assumed by a twelve-year-old catgirl.
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Apparently the only major target east of Tripoli where the loud explosion are is Mitiga airbase.
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CJSwiss posted:According to MSNBC, the Pentagon's labeling this "Operation Odyssey Dawn". After Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, this is a refreshingly jibberish code name.
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CJSwiss posted:According to MSNBC, the Pentagon's labeling this "Operation Odyssey Dawn". Ha, wonderful! I was waiting for a cool label - guess you can depend on the yanks to provide. This might very well prove to be the greatest american contribution to the conflict 
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