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Slaan: Mar 16, 2009; ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

eatenmyeyes posted:

I didn't think people this crazy could write html.

It is like Warhammer Orks: it is genetic. They can just instinctively toss together a bunch of bits and pieces, and somehow, someway, it works. It baffles the mind, and no rational mind can comprehend it.

# ? Apr 25, 2011 22:56

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 00:24

Kubrick: Jul 20, 2004

Hold on to your buts, guys. Regressive flack incoming!

quote:

Obama is hugely unpopular because he would fail at a lemonade stand. The problem is that he has the dependency class, the government workers and the unions all growing. They are democrat voters.
Capitalists have been squeezed so hard, they can't donate for political races anymore, we are broke. The unions, most all are government, give their dues to politicians that write laws that favor unions. Thus, they have money, people and time to win elections. Plus they cheat.
The only chance America has is to get Andy Stearn out and remove all government unions, period. Government union is an oxymoron. The private sector has been busy building products and offering services. The progressives have been taking over government while we weren't looking. That has to stop now!

quote:

If nothing else, Fidel Obama has awakened the country as to who our real enemy is. It's the Left, plain and simple. Compromise on any level with the left is like being a little bit pregnant. They're wrong on absolutely every issue. They must be crushed, and marginalized..

quote:

When I think of liberals like Obama, I am reminded of the hydroponic farms abandoned by Israel when they gave control of some land over to the Arabs.

The Jews designed and managed hugely productive farms that fed tens of thousands. The Arabs given the gift of these same farms allowed them to become worthless.

The result is the same when American liberals take potentially productive resources from the hands of productive Americans and give them to people that have no clue how and no desire to turn seeds into a garden. The seed is consumed rather than planted and the potential for all to have plenty is replaced with liberal rationing.

Under liberal rule the economy is guaranteed to fail eventually. The only question is how fast.

This was literally the argument for Indian removal in the 1800s.

quote:

I think its best that we do a reverse Hamilton Plan.
Hamiltons plan was to combine the states debt and the debt of the Continental Congress into one that would be paid by the US federal government.
One of the reasons he wanted a unconstitutional federal bank was to control that debt.
One of the reasons I'm told that he wanted the unconstitutional wisky tax( because it was a direct tax when applying to individual farmers) was to pay on that debt.
Well Jefferson elimnated the wisky tax worked to kill the bank and paid off most of the debt while funding the federal government with mostly import traiffs.
Jackson killed the bank( the second one) it says so on his tombstone and he paid off the debt.
A reverse Hamilton would be the federal government from now on would only do what it is required to do in the US Constitution, not what it thinks it can get away with and not even what the Constitutional only allows it to do but only what it must do.
That would be defense, operate congress, operate the federal courts and basic staffing for the white house.
States would take control of the debt including the obligations to our seniors and disabled and the states would take control of all the federal property within their state except miltary bases.
The states and the people would take on all other funcutions that the federal government does but is not forbidden to the states to do.
The federal government will balance its budget which should not need to be more than 1 trillion to 1.2 trillion dollars which is less than the current defecit.
Import taxes to replace the 400 billion in federal corporate income tax and a corporate federal retail sales tax of 6% should bring in enough revenue to balance the budget.
All other federal taxes would be elimnated.

Xtreme States Rights.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 01:04

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

How do people like that respond to the Articles of Confederation? It would have worked had it been given a chance?

# ? Apr 26, 2011 02:24

Lord Hawking: Aug 8, 2002; SHUT UP!
SHUT UP!
SHUT UP!!!

Anyone know about some controversy surrounding Martha Stewart being taught as part of a history curriculum? My father-in-law was going on and on tonight about how crazy liberals in Texas change school textbooks and curricula so worthless crap is covered and then it spreads to the rest of the country, and I was doing everything in my command to not roll my eyes out of my head and across the table. I asked where he heard it and all he would say was it was "on TV," so I'm guessing :foxnews:

, but Google has failed me so far.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 04:20

UZR IS BULLSHIT: Jan 25, 2004

Lord Hawking posted:

My father-in-law was going on and on tonight about how crazy liberals in Texas change school textbooks and curricula so worthless crap is covered and then it spreads to the rest of the country

How...how in the gently caress does this happen? Where do I even begin to describe what is wrong with this? This may be the most...complete example of someone believing the thing that is literally 100% opposite of the truth.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 05:20

Nucleic Acids: Apr 10, 2007

Lord Hawking posted:

Anyone know about some controversy surrounding Martha Stewart being taught as part of a history curriculum? My father-in-law was going on and on tonight about how crazy liberals in Texas change school textbooks and curricula so worthless crap is covered and then it spreads to the rest of the country, and I was doing everything in my command to not roll my eyes out of my head and across the table. I asked where he heard it and all he would say was it was "on TV," so I'm guessing , but Google has failed me so far.

There's no chance it's anyone but Beck (if his show hasn't ended production yet.) Maybe Hannity.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 05:46

JerkyBunion: Jun 22, 2002

I wish I lived in a land where liberal and progressive and socialist were not dirty things. I wish I lived in a country where we cared about each other and took care of the least among us without judgment. I wish that land would let me immigrate. Please just let me in.

:norway:

# ? Apr 26, 2011 05:54

text editor: Jan 8, 2007

Kubrick posted:

quote:
Capitalists have been squeezed so hard, they can't donate for political races anymore, we are broke.

I wish

# ? Apr 26, 2011 08:58

streetlamp: May 7, 2007; Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat

facebook post in relation to cost of gasoline

quote:

I love how everybody blames Wall St and large corporations for our economy. Corporations do not really earn profits, investors do. Who are investors? Anybody who has a mutual fund, retirement account, or numerous other investment vehicles. If corporate profits goes down, so does your retirement account.

These same people complain about corporations not paying taxes. Corporations do not really pay taxes, consumers do. All taxes that a corporation pays are rolled into the price of their goods and services and are simply passed on to the consumer. The only thing that raising taxes for corporations will do is raise prices for consumers.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 14:41

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

streetlamp posted:

facebook post in relation to cost of gasoline

It's amazing what decades of misinformation and propaganda can do.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 17:21

streetlamp: May 7, 2007; Danny likes his party hat
He does not like his banana hat

Someone replied with

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Preaching to the choir man and making too much sense. We live in an age of entitlement where if someone is unsuccessful it's not their fault, but someone else. Corporations are an easy target when you're regurgitating what your professor told you.

UGHHHH COLLEGE PROFESSORS!!!

I both hate responding to this poo poo and leaving it alone, as neither solve anything.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 19:05

Opinion Haver: Apr 9, 2007

Individuals don't pay taxes, corporations do, since the effect of taxes is to give consumers less money to purchase corporate goods, reducing their profits :pseudo:

# ? Apr 26, 2011 19:13

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Expect the affirmative action president forward to start soon. Cause, so sayeth Donald Trump!

quote:

"How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard? I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records," he said, without providing backup for his claim.

Trump added, "I have friends who have smart sons with great marks, great boards, great everything and they can't get into Harvard."

# ? Apr 26, 2011 22:27

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

Mooseontheloose posted:

Expect the affirmative action president forward to start soon. Cause, so sayeth Donald Trump!

Good ol' donald trump. Harvard is a place where you go to say you studied at Harvard. If they really gave a poo poo they could send their children through state schools easily.

# ? Apr 26, 2011 23:44

Armyman25: Sep 6, 2005

Check out this craziness:

A lot of Republicans made it into office in the last midterm election, promising to focus on the economy and getting Americans back to work.

What have they done since taking office?

* Restrict/ban abortion
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/541115/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/03/24/whats-behind-the-surge-of-abortion-bills/

* Redefine rape
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://theweek.com/article/index/211685/is-the-gop-redefining-rape
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/31/AR2011013105755.html

* Recategorize cold-blooded murder of abortion doctors as "justifiable homicide"
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/Intro/LB232.pdf
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2011/Bill.aspx?File=HB1171HJU.htm

* Eliminate net neutrality
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h96/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/digital/e3i8b5e29fcc8c446c21cdce4fc165961f5

* Ban gay marriage
-Citation Info: Over 20 individual citations can be found at the wiki article about it. Citations cover State and Fed
-Citation: (WIKI � DIRECT BILL TEXT LINKS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-s...same-sex_unions
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50987.html

* McCarthy-esque "muslim" hunt
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...V3BQ_story.html

* Ban already-non-existent Sharia law
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/get_bill.asp?session=27&bill=hb88
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/summary/h.hb2582_02-14-11_jud.doc.htm&Session_ID=102
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/assembly/2011/2011R/Bills/SB97.pdf
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202480459397&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://gaveltogavel.us/site/2011/01/27/an-examination-of-2011-sharia-law-international-law-bans-before-state-legislatures/
-Citation: (WIKI � DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Nebraska_International_Law_Amendment_(2011)

* Restrict the voting ability of college students
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2011/HB0176.html

* Investigate secession from the union
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7458701.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.freerangelongmont.com/2010/07/25/tennessees-gop-rep-wants-to-secede/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/324636/texas_gop_leaders_want_to_secede_from_medicare,_social_security/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/272508
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/05/01/republicans-want-georgia-to-secede/

* Investigate ways for states to ignore federal mandates
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1101/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h663/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h154/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h21/show

* Demand yet another birth certificate
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1503/show
-Citation: (FACTCHECK.ORG) http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

* Eliminate collective bargaining agreements
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s572/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h807/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h658/text?version=ih&nid=t0:hi:2015

* Repeal Union Rights
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9M6G1601.htm

* Repeal health care reform
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1186/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h364/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h397/show

* Defund Obama's teleprompter to save money (seriously)
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/02/obamas-teleprompter-escapes-budget-ax/1
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://reddogreport.com/2011/02/house-moves-to-defund-obamas-teleprompter/

* Defund public broadcasting
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s492/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h68/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/150415-house-on-cusp-of-passing-gop-bill-to-defund-npr-

* Defund education
-Citation: (HORSES' MOUTH) http://www.americanindependent.com/163896/n-c-rep-virginia-foxx-to-head-house-subcommittee-on-higher-education
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/mar/04/state-budget-shortfalls-may-prompt-legislators/

* Defund Planned Parenthood despite government money already cannot fund abortions, thus only impacting health services mainly for women
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/show

* Defund EPA
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/show

* Decry energy efficient light bulbs
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h6144/show

* Return to using Styrofoam cups in the congressional cafeteria
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040771-503544.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/house-styrofoam-cups-wurtz_n_830536.html

* Deny food stamps to families of workers who go on strike
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1135/text
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2011/03/24/the_gop_declares_hunger_war

* Death Penalty for miscarriages
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display.aspx?Legislation=31965

* Decry breastfeeding awareness
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Michelle+Obama+breastfeeding+advocacy+reveals+cleavage+between+right/4310733/story.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.politicususa.com/en/bachmann-palin-breast-feeding
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.inhabitots.com/michelle-obamas-breastfeeding-initiative-draws-criticism/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.haiboss.com/health/michele-bachmann-slams-michelle-obama-over-breastfeeding-does-she-have-a-point/

* Decry healthy eating initiatives for children and schools
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-icons-in-national/rush-limbaugh-attacks-michele-obama-for-having-ribs-for-dinner
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE & HORSES' MOUTH) http://mediamatters.org/research/201009170003

* Claim that oil companies will collapse without government subsidies
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE & HORSES' MOUTH) http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/barton-free-market-oil-subsidies-necessary-to-keep-exxon-from-going-out-of-business.php?ref=fpblg
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/gop-proposes-16-billion-cut-to-epa-budget-defends-4-billion-in-oil-subsidies.php

* Decry 'pork' while simultaneously seeking 'pork'
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/1...heyve-been-had/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101109/pl_yblog_upshot/republicans-conflicted-over-earmark-ban
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/11/04/the-future-of-bloated-defense/

* Decry federal stimulus dollars while accepting/seeking it and taking credit for the things it pays for
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/ap_on_el_ge/us_barbour_economy
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/schwarzenegger-slams-gop-stimulus-hypocrisy
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/index.htm

* Push for creationism in schools
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=13724262&clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass

* Chastise Natalie Portman 'glorifying' (by existing, apparently) pre-marital pregnancy while simultaneously defending Bristol Palin
* Get between women and their doctors by forcing them to get sonograms before abortion
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040146-503544.html

* Attempt to get a completely unwanted second F-35 engine (coincidentally to be built in Speaker Boehner's state) funded over the protests of the military, department of defense, and secretary of defense
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/11/04/the-future-of-bloated-defense/

* Convincing the people earning $30,000 that the person making $250,000 is too poor and the teacher making $60,000 is too rich
* Condemn the NYC multicultural center and mosque because muslim = terrorist, despite having been an avid supporter of the IRA for years
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/politics/09king.html

* Explain that the reason you cheated on two of your wives, one who was in the hospital with cancer, was because you were extremely passionate for America
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/09/gingrich-says-he-cheated-on-his-wives-because-he-was-passionate-for-this-country/

* Half-jokingly suggesting that the illegal immigration problem can be solved like the feral swine problem -by shooting them from helicoptors; in defense of comments: "I was just speaking like a southeast Kansas person."
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kansas-rep-fire-comparing-illegal-immigrants-feral-hogs/story?id=13223497

* Lower a state minimum wage
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.wgme.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wgme_vid_7279.shtml

* Call an emergency meeting to again try to de-fund public broadcasting in the wake of a heavily-edited and exceedingly misleading video
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/16/house-panel-votes-to-defund-npr-after-emergency-gop-hearing/

* Blame an 11 year old girl for being gangraped by 18 people for several hours because she had dressed like a "prostitute"
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/16/republican-lawmaker-blames-11-year-old-victim-of-alleged-gang-rape/

* Reaffirm "in god we trust" as the national motto
* Protect creationists (and nobody else) from workplace discrimination
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB2454

* Strongly advocating for intervention in Libya before Obama gets involved, sharply criticizing intervention after
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0327/Newt-Gingrich-s-flip-flops

* Abusing the freedom of information act to try to harass and/or discredit a university professor who wrote an op-ed in his personal time questioning a Republican governor
* Loosen child labor laws
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/dont-weaken-child-labor-laws_2011-04-01.html
* Lament that your $172k salary isn't as much as it sounds because you have a family, loans, bills, etc. and that you have trouble paying your bills then go on to support cutting public sector compensation packages
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/gopers-demand-sean-duffy-salary-tape-be-pulled-from-the-internet.php

* Complain that Democratic congressmen keep asking where the jobs are
* Speak to a Christian organization event during a taxpayer-funded trip to Kenya (which has stricter abortion laws than the US) to rail against a new provision in their constitution allowing abortions when the mother's health is at risk
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/30/chris-smith-african-anti-abortion-adventure_n_842652.html

* Scold a Democrat for using the word 'uterus' on the house floor because young pages might hear
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/democrat-chastized-saying-uterus-house-floor

* Accuse the president of going to war with Libya to deplete our armed forces to he can call up the private army written into the health care reform bill (seriously)
-Citation: (LIVE RECORDING) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMstz2k56dM&feature=player_embedded

How many jobs will all this create? How will any of this help the economy get going again? Or is claiming to focus on jobs secret GOP code for "pander to our base with social wedge issues and culture war fronts"?

# ? Apr 27, 2011 04:40

Eat This Glob: Jan 14, 2008; God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Armyman25 posted:

Check out this craziness:

A lot of Republicans made it into office in the last midterm election, promising to focus on the economy and getting Americans back to work.

What have they done since taking office?

* Restrict/ban abortion
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/541115/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/03/24/whats-behind-the-surge-of-abortion-bills/

* Redefine rape
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://theweek.com/article/index/211685/is-the-gop-redefining-rape
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/31/AR2011013105755.html

* Recategorize cold-blooded murder of abortion doctors as "justifiable homicide"
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/Intro/LB232.pdf
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2011/Bill.aspx?File=HB1171HJU.htm

* Eliminate net neutrality
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h96/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/digital/e3i8b5e29fcc8c446c21cdce4fc165961f5

* Ban gay marriage
-Citation Info: Over 20 individual citations can be found at the wiki article about it. Citations cover State and Fed
-Citation: (WIKI � DIRECT BILL TEXT LINKS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-s...same-sex_unions
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50987.html

* McCarthy-esque "muslim" hunt
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...V3BQ_story.html

* Ban already-non-existent Sharia law
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/get_bill.asp?session=27&bill=hb88
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/50leg/1r/summary/h.hb2582_02-14-11_jud.doc.htm&Session_ID=102
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/assembly/2011/2011R/Bills/SB97.pdf
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202480459397&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://gaveltogavel.us/site/2011/01/27/an-examination-of-2011-sharia-law-international-law-bans-before-state-legislatures/
-Citation: (WIKI � DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Nebraska_International_Law_Amendment_(2011)

* Restrict the voting ability of college students
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2011/HB0176.html

* Investigate secession from the union
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7458701.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.freerangelongmont.com/2010/07/25/tennessees-gop-rep-wants-to-secede/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/324636/texas_gop_leaders_want_to_secede_from_medicare,_social_security/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/272508
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/05/01/republicans-want-georgia-to-secede/

* Investigate ways for states to ignore federal mandates
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1101/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h663/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h154/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h21/show

* Demand yet another birth certificate
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1503/show
-Citation: (FACTCHECK.ORG) http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

* Eliminate collective bargaining agreements
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s572/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h807/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h658/text?version=ih&nid=t0:hi:2015

* Repeal Union Rights
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704629104576191003890014010.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9M6G1601.htm

* Repeal health care reform
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1186/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h364/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h397/show

* Defund Obama's teleprompter to save money (seriously)
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/02/obamas-teleprompter-escapes-budget-ax/1
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://reddogreport.com/2011/02/house-moves-to-defund-obamas-teleprompter/

* Defund public broadcasting
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s492/show
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h68/show
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/150415-house-on-cusp-of-passing-gop-bill-to-defund-npr-

* Defund education
-Citation: (HORSES' MOUTH) http://www.americanindependent.com/163896/n-c-rep-virginia-foxx-to-head-house-subcommittee-on-higher-education
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/mar/04/state-budget-shortfalls-may-prompt-legislators/

* Defund Planned Parenthood despite government money already cannot fund abortions, thus only impacting health services mainly for women
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/show

* Defund EPA
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/show

* Decry energy efficient light bulbs
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h6144/show

* Return to using Styrofoam cups in the congressional cafeteria
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040771-503544.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/house-styrofoam-cups-wurtz_n_830536.html

* Deny food stamps to families of workers who go on strike
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1135/text
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2011/03/24/the_gop_declares_hunger_war

* Death Penalty for miscarriages
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display.aspx?Legislation=31965

* Decry breastfeeding awareness
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Michelle+Obama+breastfeeding+advocacy+reveals+cleavage+between+right/4310733/story.html
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.politicususa.com/en/bachmann-palin-breast-feeding
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.inhabitots.com/michelle-obamas-breastfeeding-initiative-draws-criticism/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.haiboss.com/health/michele-bachmann-slams-michelle-obama-over-breastfeeding-does-she-have-a-point/

* Decry healthy eating initiatives for children and schools
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-icons-in-national/rush-limbaugh-attacks-michele-obama-for-having-ribs-for-dinner
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE & HORSES' MOUTH) http://mediamatters.org/research/201009170003

* Claim that oil companies will collapse without government subsidies
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE & HORSES' MOUTH) http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/barton-free-market-oil-subsidies-necessary-to-keep-exxon-from-going-out-of-business.php?ref=fpblg
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/gop-proposes-16-billion-cut-to-epa-budget-defends-4-billion-in-oil-subsidies.php

* Decry 'pork' while simultaneously seeking 'pork'
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/1...heyve-been-had/
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101109/pl_yblog_upshot/republicans-conflicted-over-earmark-ban
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/11/04/the-future-of-bloated-defense/

* Decry federal stimulus dollars while accepting/seeking it and taking credit for the things it pays for
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/ap_on_el_ge/us_barbour_economy
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/schwarzenegger-slams-gop-stimulus-hypocrisy
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/index.htm

* Push for creationism in schools
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=13724262&clienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass

* Chastise Natalie Portman 'glorifying' (by existing, apparently) pre-marital pregnancy while simultaneously defending Bristol Palin
* Get between women and their doctors by forcing them to get sonograms before abortion
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040146-503544.html

* Attempt to get a completely unwanted second F-35 engine (coincidentally to be built in Speaker Boehner's state) funded over the protests of the military, department of defense, and secretary of defense
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/11/04/the-future-of-bloated-defense/

* Convincing the people earning $30,000 that the person making $250,000 is too poor and the teacher making $60,000 is too rich
* Condemn the NYC multicultural center and mosque because muslim = terrorist, despite having been an avid supporter of the IRA for years
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/politics/09king.html

* Explain that the reason you cheated on two of your wives, one who was in the hospital with cancer, was because you were extremely passionate for America
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/09/gingrich-says-he-cheated-on-his-wives-because-he-was-passionate-for-this-country/

* Half-jokingly suggesting that the illegal immigration problem can be solved like the feral swine problem -by shooting them from helicoptors; in defense of comments: "I was just speaking like a southeast Kansas person."
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kansas-rep-fire-comparing-illegal-immigrants-feral-hogs/story?id=13223497

* Lower a state minimum wage
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.wgme.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wgme_vid_7279.shtml

* Call an emergency meeting to again try to de-fund public broadcasting in the wake of a heavily-edited and exceedingly misleading video
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/16/house-panel-votes-to-defund-npr-after-emergency-gop-hearing/

* Blame an 11 year old girl for being gangraped by 18 people for several hours because she had dressed like a "prostitute"
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/16/republican-lawmaker-blames-11-year-old-victim-of-alleged-gang-rape/

* Reaffirm "in god we trust" as the national motto
* Protect creationists (and nobody else) from workplace discrimination
-Citation: (DIRECT BILL TEXT) http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB2454

* Strongly advocating for intervention in Libya before Obama gets involved, sharply criticizing intervention after
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0327/Newt-Gingrich-s-flip-flops

* Abusing the freedom of information act to try to harass and/or discredit a university professor who wrote an op-ed in his personal time questioning a Republican governor
* Loosen child labor laws
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/dont-weaken-child-labor-laws_2011-04-01.html
* Lament that your $172k salary isn't as much as it sounds because you have a family, loans, bills, etc. and that you have trouble paying your bills then go on to support cutting public sector compensation packages
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/gopers-demand-sean-duffy-salary-tape-be-pulled-from-the-internet.php

* Complain that Democratic congressmen keep asking where the jobs are
* Speak to a Christian organization event during a taxpayer-funded trip to Kenya (which has stricter abortion laws than the US) to rail against a new provision in their constitution allowing abortions when the mother's health is at risk
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/30/chris-smith-african-anti-abortion-adventure_n_842652.html

* Scold a Democrat for using the word 'uterus' on the house floor because young pages might hear
-Citation: (NEWS SOURCE) http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/democrat-chastized-saying-uterus-house-floor

* Accuse the president of going to war with Libya to deplete our armed forces to he can call up the private army written into the health care reform bill (seriously)
-Citation: (LIVE RECORDING) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMstz2k56dM&feature=player_embedded

How many jobs will all this create? How will any of this help the economy get going again? Or is claiming to focus on jobs secret GOP code for "pander to our base with social wedge issues and culture war fronts"?

I would happily label myself as more "news informed" 95% of my fellow Americans, but even after reading the descriptions and citations, I've seen more believable evil henchmen in action movies. Is there anyone willing to make up a "facebook ready" version of this post? I'm not one who's ever made a public political statement on account of my current employer, but I'd be happy to do it in this case.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 05:43

negativeneil: Jul 8, 2000; "Personally, I think he's done a great job of being down to earth so far."

i just did that. http://on.fb.me/eQa1AA

# ? Apr 27, 2011 17:24

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

negativeneil posted:

i just did that. http://on.fb.me/eQa1AA

A facebook note? why not a group?

# ? Apr 27, 2011 17:34

negativeneil: Jul 8, 2000; "Personally, I think he's done a great job of being down to earth so far."

ugh. I was using the note editor to mess with the formatting and forgot to go back into a group. And then of course posting the text in a group removes the formatting.

Whatever, here's the group

https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_212008358816993

# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:08

Diseased Yak: Jun 23, 2006; It's only a mild infection...

My dad was rather quick on the draw, shotgunning this out less than an hour after Obama's press conference. No idea where he got it.

Subject: Hmmmm????

The United States did not use the word "African" for birth certificates in 1961 - Obama's does!
Vital Statistics of the United States ^

VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961 at
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
says on page 231 under the section "Race and color" the following:
"Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
"The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used."
Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" shows father's race as "African". That word was not used in 1961 to describe race.
You can draw your own conclusion.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:09

Classtoise: Feb 11, 2008; THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

How...how in the gently caress does this happen? Where do I even begin to describe what is wrong with this? This may be the most...complete example of someone believing the thing that is literally 100% opposite of the truth.

It's like a quantum loving singularity of cognitive dissonance!

# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:25

Mooseontheloose: May 13, 2003

Diseased Yak posted:

My dad was rather quick on the draw, shotgunning this out less than an hour after Obama's press conference. No idea where he got it.

Subject: Hmmmm????

The United States did not use the word "African" for birth certificates in 1961 - Obama's does!
Vital Statistics of the United States ^

VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961 at
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
says on page 231 under the section "Race and color" the following:
"Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
"The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used."
Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" shows father's race as "African". That word was not used in 1961 to describe race.
You can draw your own conclusion.

IT DOESN'T loving MATTER, HE WAS BORN ON US SOIL, ERGO HE IS A US CITIZEN. WHAT IN THE EVER LOVING gently caress!

# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:29

Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

Diseased Yak posted:

My dad was rather quick on the draw, shotgunning this out less than an hour after Obama's press conference. No idea where he got it.

This looks like a document collecting and standardizing data, not laws or regulations for how to fill out birth certificates.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 18:30

JoshTheStampede: Sep 8, 2004; come at me bro

Mooseontheloose posted:

IT DOESN'T loving MATTER, HE WAS BORN ON US SOIL, ERGO HE IS A US CITIZEN. WHAT IN THE EVER LOVING gently caress!

The argument is that the document is fake, as revealed by the use of the word African instead of Negro.

Which is crap, of course, but they are saying he WASNT born in Hawaii, and that the document was forged to make it appear he was. Never mind the fact that his father was actually African, as in From Africa, so maybe that is why the certificate says that. Or maybe they didn't like the word Negro and convinced some clerk to change it at the time.

I'm not sure why anyone thought that producing a certificate would quiet anyone down. It's so trivial to just say "well that is clearly a fake", they don't even have to change their argument. There is literally nothing you could show these people to convince them. Eyewitness testimony from the doctor or nurse who delivered him would be met with "well they paid off a doctor". Video of the event? "Could be video of any black baby being born in hawaii."

They will continue to claim he isn't a valid president because they cannot otherwise process the fact that a black dude beat their guy.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 19:20

its all nice on rice: Nov 12, 2006; Sweet, Salty Goodness.; Buglord

negativeneil posted:

ugh. I was using the note editor to mess with the formatting and forgot to go back into a group. And then of course posting the text in a group removes the formatting.

Whatever, here's the group

https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_212008358816993

This is fantastic. I am awaiting stupid repsonses from my conservative FB friends and coworkers.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 19:29

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Dominion posted:

The argument is that the document is fake, as revealed by the use of the word African instead of Negro.

Which is crap, of course, but they are saying he WASNT born in Hawaii, and that the document was forged to make it appear he was. Never mind the fact that his father was actually African, as in From Africa, so maybe that is why the certificate says that. Or maybe they didn't like the word Negro and convinced some clerk to change it at the time.

I'm not sure why anyone thought that producing a certificate would quiet anyone down. It's so trivial to just say "well that is clearly a fake", they don't even have to change their argument. There is literally nothing you could show these people to convince them. Eyewitness testimony from the doctor or nurse who delivered him would be met with "well they paid off a doctor". Video of the event? "Could be video of any black baby being born in hawaii."

They will continue to claim he isn't a valid president because they cannot otherwise process the fact that a black dude beat their guy.

It can definitely be said that those that think he isn't a U.S. citizen will never change their minds. They have seen and read it for so long it is brainwashed into their minds. Your examples of evidence offered and then the refutations the birthers would scrounge around for are perfect. Everyone watching this for the last two years who sees it for exactly what it is knew that if the administration ever bothered to work with the state of Hawaii to make an exception for Obama and get a copy of whatever they have on file, then the birthers would do exactly what they did when Obama put his birth certificate online during the campaign. They would outright claim it was fake, act like it didn't exist, or make whatever rationalization is necessary to maintain their dissonance.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 19:52

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

Got this, it was all in purple and red.

quote:

SOCIAL SECURITY CHANGES

It does not matter if you personally like or dislike Obama. You need to sign this petition and flood his e-mail box with e-mails that tell him that, even if the House passes this bill, he needs to veto it. It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives?

As stated below, the Senate voted this week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits. Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that requires citizenship for eligibility to that social service.

Instructions are below. If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.

If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.

Thank you!

To add your name, click on 'forward'.. Address it to all of your email correspondents, add your name to the list and send it on.

IMPORTANT NOTE: When the petition hits 1,500, it is up to you to send it tocomment@whitehouse.gov <http://us.mc527.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tocomment@whitehouse.gov> <http://us.mc501.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=comment@whitehouse.gov> else, it will not be sent.
PETITION for President Obama:

Dear Mr. President:
We, the undersigned, protest the bill that the Senate voted on recently which would allow illegal aliens to access our Social Security. We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States .

It's followed up by about 1200 names of people. This was forwarded to me by someone who works for a non-profit and is apparently all about eliminating diseases AS LONG AS WE DON'T HELP THOSE drat BROWNS!

So should I forward it? I don't want to be responsible for the break in the chain!

# ? Apr 27, 2011 20:25

Sock on a Fish: Jul 17, 2004; What if that thing I said?

THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

Got this, it was all in purple and red.

It's followed up by about 1200 names of people. This was forwarded to me by someone who works for a non-profit and is apparently all about eliminating diseases AS LONG AS WE DON'T HELP THOSE drat BROWNS!

So should I forward it? I don't want to be responsible for the break in the chain!

Reply all and ask for the bill number.

Expect silence, anger, or the number of a bill that either does no such thing or died quietly in committee.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 22:31

The Macaroni: Dec 20, 2002; ...it does nothing.

Yeah, I was just going to ask where the bill is. :sigh:

# ? Apr 27, 2011 22:43

Mo_Steel: Mar 7, 2008; Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together; Fun Shoe

Diseased Yak posted:

My dad was rather quick on the draw, shotgunning this out less than an hour after Obama's press conference. No idea where he got it.

Subject: Hmmmm????

The United States did not use the word "African" for birth certificates in 1961 - Obama's does!
Vital Statistics of the United States ^

VITAL STATISTICS OF THE UNITED STATES 1961 at
http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf
says on page 231 under the section "Race and color" the following:
"Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
"The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used."
Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" shows father's race as "African". That word was not used in 1961 to describe race.
You can draw your own conclusion.

My conclusion is based on his real birth certificate I saw released here a while back.

Looks official to me.

# ? Apr 27, 2011 22:48

ledge: Jun 10, 2003

downout posted:

It can definitely be said that those that think he isn't a U.S. citizen will never change their minds. They have seen and read it for so long it is brainwashed into their minds. Your examples of evidence offered and then the refutations the birthers would scrounge around for are perfect. Everyone watching this for the last two years who sees it for exactly what it is knew that if the administration ever bothered to work with the state of Hawaii to make an exception for Obama and get a copy of whatever they have on file, then the birthers would do exactly what they did when Obama put his birth certificate online during the campaign. They would outright claim it was fake, act like it didn't exist, or make whatever rationalization is necessary to maintain their dissonance.

AS some guy at Wired tweeted, "So if that really is Obama's *real* birth certificate, and he really is eligible to be President, how come he is still not a white guy?"

# ? Apr 28, 2011 08:20

Aeka 2.0: Nov 16, 2000; Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.; Dinosaur Gum

Armyman25 posted:

Check out this craziness:

This is the first time I was able to drop something like this in a new thread and nobody had poo poo to say. Solid.

# ? Apr 30, 2011 18:12

Orkiec: Dec 28, 2008; My gut, huh?

There are a lot of right wing forwards on this thread, but has anybody gotten a pro-Trump e-mail forward yet? I'm curious if anyone likes him.

# ? May 1, 2011 01:34

insider: Feb 22, 2007; A secret room... always my favourite room in a house.

Orkiec posted:

There are a lot of right wing forwards on this thread, but has anybody gotten a pro-Trump e-mail forward yet? I'm curious if anyone likes him.

I seirously can't see anyone who had a ROAST about them could be taken seriously. I'm not sure if he even takes his Presidential run seriously.

# ? May 1, 2011 07:33

the: Jul 18, 2004; by Cowcaster

Unless everyone being polled is answering ironically, I would say that a large percentage of conservatives want him to run for president.

# ? May 1, 2011 07:37

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Orkiec posted:

There are a lot of right wing forwards on this thread, but has anybody gotten a pro-Trump e-mail forward yet? I'm curious if anyone likes him.

There's this link from a few pages back:

quote:

Whether or not you like Donald Trump or think he has a snowball�s chance in hell of actually winning the Republican nomination and going on to remove Barrack Obama from the White House is beside the point; dude says exactly what�s on his mind, and you gotta LOVE IT.

# ? May 1, 2011 08:51

Blarghalt: May 19, 2010

We should love it when contenders for president speak their mind, even when those things are either upright conspiracy theories or statements that show a complete lack of understanding on how the world works.

# ? May 1, 2011 08:58

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Blarghalt posted:

We should love it when contenders for president speak their mind, even when those things are either upright conspiracy theories or statements that show a complete lack of understanding on how the world works.

Well, I'd rather politicians are truthful and stupid than lying. As for Trump, he seems a natural extension of the "government is just like a business and ought to be run as such" meme. Ofcourse Trump isn't really all that succesful of a businessman, but he certainly appears to be and that's good enough.

# ? May 1, 2011 13:44

jojoinnit: Dec 13, 2010; Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Orange Devil posted:

Ofcourse Trump isn't really all that succesful of a businessman, but he certainly appears to be and that's good enough.

Trump is a terrible businessman. He started off with millions from is father and lost it all several times. He managed to bankrupt a casino. In Vegas. He mostly projects his wealth illusion with reality TV money. Remember that most of his namesake buildings were constructed with money from investors who still had faith in him.

I really hate when people think he's a genuine American rags-to-riches, bootstraps type of guy. His father was a millionaire. He brags about the fact his kids are in the directory listing of the top 1% (because the money has to be in the family for three generations) while pretending it doesn't bother him that he's not.

# ? May 1, 2011 15:15

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 00:24

Technogeek: Sep 9, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

jojoinnit posted:

He managed to bankrupt a casino. In Vegas.

Actually, it was Atlantic City. Still doesn't reflect well on his business skills.

# ? May 1, 2011 20:53

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