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randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

Yeah all those were awful except the Galaxy one. Really a lame article all around but I do love stuff like those things in Galaxy 2. Makes you wonder about the things you don't see in games but are there.

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claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
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JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

randombattle posted:

Yeah all those were awful except the Galaxy one. Really a lame article all around but I do love stuff like those things in Galaxy 2. Makes you wonder about the things you don't see in games but are there.

Man, do I have the site for you.

Mq
Jul 7, 2005
Lazy fat bastard
In the 90s there was this polish gaming mag called Secret Service. One of their april fools gags proved quite effective. They started the issue with a lengthy article explaining that the whole staff was actually female and they just took male pseudonims because people wouldn't take all girl ran pc magazine seriously. They even attached pictures pointing out who was who. They said they were sorry for misdirection but it was time to come out. A lot of people fell for this. Even a year later someone tried to explain to me that everyone writing for Secret Service was a chick. I don't have that issue but I'm pretty sure the next month they published some of the nerd rage mail that joke generated.

I recall another april fools hoax, I think that one was published in Gambler (another old polish game mag). It was a review for PS1 game that didn't exist. It was supposed to be a rad castle simulator where you played as the king. All commands were issued by voice through the microphone and servants supposedly picked up on the way you were speaking and would mock your voice behind your back. Doesn't that sound cool though? There were also some over the top details like one of the reviewers fainting during the epic ten minute intro. I might actually have that issue somewhere...

JammyLammy
Dec 23, 2009
I wish I could see the outraged mail from that gag. I honestly can't understand why someone would be outraged that they read an article by a female then a male. Is it really that big of a problem?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Syrg Sapphire posted:

Man, do I have the site for you.

This site is awesome :)

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


JammyLammy posted:

I wish I could see the outraged mail from that gag. I honestly can't understand why someone would be outraged that they read an article by a female then a male. Is it really that big of a problem?

Imagine that you've been enjoying this magazine for a while, when all of a sudden, all of the old articles you liked suddenly become trite nonsense written by people who don't really understand games, and who are trying to push some weird agenda on you! What a bunch of jerks!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



pw pw pw posted:

Seriously? You don't see the baby in that picture? And the womb in the other picture? And the fact that the game is called Mother, but basically has nothing to do with mothers otherwise?

Ok, I can see it now that others have mentioned to look at the black rather than the red.
It's called Mother because the plot is modeled around the John Lennon song of the same name - with Gigyas the invading alien raised by an Earth family, the father of which steals the alien Psi powers to take back to Earth, prompting the invasion.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

randombattle posted:

Yeah all those were awful except the Galaxy one.

I disagree. Now that I've seen the Mother Baby, I can't unsee it. Oh god :gonk:

Not actually a video game, but if somebody told you this today and you weren't around when it actually came out, you'd probably think it was an urban legend:

William Gibson writes self-deleting poem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrippa_%28a_book_of_the_dead%29

Abundance of Gokus
Jan 8, 2009

Sailor Scout Encounter 5: Mercury Aqua Rhapsody

Ghostlight posted:

Ok, I can see it now that others have mentioned to look at the black rather than the red.
It's called Mother because the plot is modeled around the John Lennon song of the same name - with Gigyas the invading alien raised by an Earth family, the father of which steals the alien Psi powers to take back to Earth, prompting the invasion.

I always thought the Mother title came from Mother Earth, which is what you're fighting for against invading aliens/insane future aliens/human expansion and greed. Though the John Lennon thing also has merit, the games are littered with Beatles references.

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



Doc Hawkins posted:

Imagine that you've been enjoying this magazine for a while, when all of a sudden, all of the old articles you liked suddenly become trite nonsense written by people who don't really understand games, and who are trying to push some weird agenda on you! What a bunch of jerks!

You're being ironic, right...

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I'm being derisive and contemptuous, while explaining the (terrible, stupid, illogical) motivations of the letter-writers.

It's a shame you had to ask! Poe's law applied to gamer sexism, I guess.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

You're being ironic, right...

Ridiculously super obvious that he is being sarcastic

Obnoxious Brit
Feb 16, 2008

Absolutely unbearable

Thread posted:

Stuff about the Braid ending.

I remember there being some talk that the point of the extra Braid ending wasn't actually about the nuke, but some message about obsession.

Like, you had to be pretty obsessed with getting the stars considering how obtuse they were, and how ridiculous some of the requirements were (Like waiting for two hours, or having to get it before beating world 2).

I think it was meant to be a message about what obsession can do to people, and how dangerous it can be when that level of dedication and obsession is taken from something harmless, like collecting all the stars in a videogame, to something much more sinister, such as the race to develop the most powerful weapon.

Dr Snofeld posted:

That was Bowser straight up lying to his son, though.

I haven't played it since first completing it when it came out, but I'm pretty sure in the ending scene boswer goes "About Princess Peach..." and he gets cut off by Bowser Jr. going "I know she's not really my mama,"

E: Yup

Obnoxious Brit fucked around with this message at 23:41 on May 1, 2011

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Obnoxious Brit posted:

I remember there being some talk that the point of the extra Braid ending wasn't actually about the nuke, but some message about obsession.

Yeah, it seems to be about obsession with knowledge and mastery of systems. It's the only thing that would drive someone to find all the stars, and when it's let loose in the real world it has all kinds of unintended consequences, of which the atomic bomb is and always has been a great symbol.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
Yeah, Braid truly and ultimately is about obsession. I think most people just have an issue conceptualizing that an ending that is both very well hidden and necessitates a ton of effort can be a bad ending, so obviously it's the true ending and the regular ending is fake!

Reginald Bathwater
Dec 19, 2009

MINE EYES CAN BUT WEEP AS THEY BEAR WITNESS TO THE MAJESTY... THE BFG 9000!
The excel one is a pretty clear homage to Doom, what with EXCELKFA being the secret code.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

flatluigi posted:

Yeah, Braid truly and ultimately is about obsession. I think most people just have an issue conceptualizing that an ending that is both very well hidden and necessitates a ton of effort can be a bad ending, so obviously it's the true ending and the regular ending is fake!

Another indie game (if you know it you know what it is already) Aquaria does much the same thing. The "Extra" ending is really the bad one.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Obnoxious Brit posted:

I haven't played it since first completing it when it came out, but I'm pretty sure in the ending scene boswer goes "About Princess Peach..." and he gets cut off by Bowser Jr. going "I know she's not really my mama,"

E: Yup

He never refutes it. He's just shocked.

I'm not listening to anyone who disagrees. Peach gave it up.

:colbert:

Graviija
Apr 26, 2008

Implied, Lisa...or implode?
College Slice
The Earthbound/Mother talk last page reminded me of a website I read a few years ago. Some guy went into great detail breaking down the final boss area, explaining what he thought the setting meant. He paid particular attention to the music - how it shifted around a lot, sometimes it sounded like creepy breathing, sometimes like strained talking, ect. There were music samples littered throughout the post/article (it might have been a forum post, but I don't think so).

I've googled it a bit, but haven't been able to come up with much. This article is the closest thing I could find, but what I'm remembering was longer and more in-depth (especially with the music, as mentioned).

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
Is it on here? http://cruiseelroy.net/

Graviija
Apr 26, 2008

Implied, Lisa...or implode?
College Slice

flatluigi posted:

Is it on here? http://cruiseelroy.net/
Huh. I looked through a lot of those articles, and while I would say what I'm thinking of was certainly along those lines (especially the little music samples), it doesn't appear to be on that particular site. What I'm thinking of also had a material on that whole "Gigyas is a fetus" theory, and the music may have been used to help prove the point.

When it comes right down to it, the website/article may very well no longer exist. I hope it does, though, since it was really interesting.

Thanks for you help all the same.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

pw pw pw posted:

Seriously? You don't see the baby in that picture? And the womb in the other picture? And the fact that the game is called Mother, but basically has nothing to do with mothers otherwise?

I think there is some DEFINITE credence to the abortion theory.



Look at it. It's a baby.

Didn't Itoi say at some point that the scene was inspired by him stumbling into a porno theater showing a rape film when he was like, six? I'm curious how exactly the child image fits into that. :psyduck:

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown

pw pw pw posted:

I think there is some DEFINITE credence to the abortion theory.



Look at it. It's a baby.

I see three screaming faces surrounded by pink swirlies. I don't see a baby in there.

EDIT: Oh, wait, there it is. :gonk:

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Anybody who can't see it needs to look at the negative space. Stop looking at the red and look at the black. Picture the red as the background and the black as the foreground.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
Funny thing is, the "rape" scene in the movie Itoi is talking about is really, really tame. Well, for a love-making scene, that is.

From an article discussing the movie:

quote:

Now we’re treated to a flashback of everything that happened in the beginning of the movie. This is the scene.

First, we see them getting ready to make love. This isn’t a rape scene, it’s consented love-making by two lovers. There’s no nudity. Nor does he grab her breast and form a “ball shape”. She doesn’t say anything about pain or “it hurts”. There’s nothing at all, really. Anyway, the guy she’s with (who we now know is Hospital Guy) starts to strangle her, much to her surprise. The only sound she makes is one squawk. She either dies here or goes unconscious, it’s not made clear.

Itoi probably misrememberd it pretty badly.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!
Weird...

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 23, 2014

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO
Yeah, anything a child doesn't understand left unexplained to him can mess up a kid's head pretty bad, I'll give you that. It's just dumb when the exact same rape/abortion discussion comes up every time Earthbound is mentioned.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Kikka posted:

Yeah, anything a child doesn't understand left unexplained to him can mess up a kid's head pretty bad, I'll give you that. It's just dumb when the exact same rape/abortion discussion comes up every time Earthbound is mentioned.

OK but you did just describe a sex scene where, at the end, the woman is strangled to death. I'm not entirely certain that's more of a distinction than just splitting hairs. Seeing that or seeing rape onscreen would gently caress up a six year old pretty badly. Especially if someone tried to explain it to him afterwards.

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO

Dewgy posted:

OK but you did just describe a sex scene where, at the end, the woman is strangled to death. I'm not entirely certain that's more of a distinction than just splitting hairs. Seeing that or seeing rape onscreen would gently caress up a six year old pretty badly. Especially if someone tried to explain it to him afterwards.

Yes yes I'm not saying Itoi getting scarred by seeing a woman strangled during sex in a movie at 6 years of age is injustified, geez!

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Kikka posted:

Yeah, anything a child doesn't understand left unexplained to him can mess up a kid's head pretty bad, I'll give you that. It's just dumb when the exact same rape/abortion discussion comes up every time Earthbound is mentioned.

I don't really understand why it's dumb. Are you saying people should know by now or that the discussion takes away from talking about something else?

Kikka
Feb 10, 2010

I POST STUPID STUFF ABOUT DOCTOR WHO

Lone Rogue posted:

I don't really understand why it's dumb. Are you saying people should know by now or that the discussion takes away from talking about something else?

It's always "agluhgluh Giygas is a fetus and Ness is a coathanger :supaburn:" when it come to Earthbound discussion. I dunno, I was a hardcore Earthbound fan when I was younger, so I've come to hear all the possible theories and alternate theories there is to hear about Earthbound and Giygas.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END
I'm just happy to see this thread updated. It's fascinating.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



New Pop-fiction about Bigfoot in San Andreas:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-11-pop-fiction/713378

Spekkof
Dec 4, 2008
Someone mentioning a world select code being in Super Mario Bros 3 a few pages back reminded me of something.

As a kid I used to kinda like playing Sonic 3D Blast. It was frustrating as all poo poo but what the hell I enjoyed it back then, anyway..
I remember one day I was playing to pass the time and I just reached the Rusty Ruins zone if my memory serves me right. My father started to clean the living room and when he was stumbling around with the vacuum cleaner he accidentally kicked the poo poo out of my console. I was upset because the screen sort of flickered blue but then I realized that there was a select screen of some kind. It had white text on a blue background and it had a list of all the stages of the game. I naturally selected the very last boss fight since I hadn't reached it before but unfortunately Robotnik kicked my rear end and I had to start over.

I tried pretty much everything back then to make it happen again. I tried a ton of different combinations on the pad and tried to check out every inch of the Rusty Ruins maps. I even tried to replicate the conditions by kicked my console but I never could get the select screen to appear again. To make things worse, nobody ever believed me :argh:
Someone must know how this happened and how to make it happen again!

Edit: I guess this isn't that much of a hoax but people thought it was. Probably still do

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Spekkof posted:

Someone mentioning a world select code being in Super Mario Bros 3 a few pages back reminded me of something.

As a kid I used to kinda like playing Sonic 3D Blast. It was frustrating as all poo poo but what the hell I enjoyed it back then, anyway..
I remember one day I was playing to pass the time and I just reached the Rusty Ruins zone if my memory serves me right. My father started to clean the living room and when he was stumbling around with the vacuum cleaner he accidentally kicked the poo poo out of my console. I was upset because the screen sort of flickered blue but then I realized that there was a select screen of some kind. It had white text on a blue background and it had a list of all the stages of the game. I naturally selected the very last boss fight since I hadn't reached it before but unfortunately Robotnik kicked my rear end and I had to start over.

I tried pretty much everything back then to make it happen again. I tried a ton of different combinations on the pad and tried to check out every inch of the Rusty Ruins maps. I even tried to replicate the conditions by kicked my console but I never could get the select screen to appear again. To make things worse, nobody ever believed me :argh:
Someone must know how this happened and how to make it happen again!

Edit: I guess this isn't that much of a hoax but people thought it was. Probably still do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp1uTXPNlzE

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away
To actually explain it: whenever something unexpected happens in the game cartridge, the developers made it so that it brings up the level select instead of crashing. Pretty simple, unfortunately.

Spekkof
Dec 4, 2008

Silentman0 posted:

To actually explain it: whenever something unexpected happens in the game cartridge, the developers made it so that it brings up the level select instead of crashing. Pretty simple, unfortunately.

Proof and an explanation. This is fantastic. Thanks

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



As an error handler Sonic 3D Blast will fall back to the Level Select screen. Try flicking the cartridge ("Flickies Island") or pushing it or tilting it. Earlier in this thread cartridge tilting was required in OoT's debug menu.

efb!

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown
I think all the Genesis Sonic games do something like that. I remember hearing Sonic 3 takes you to a bonus stage, for example.

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BlazeKinser
Feb 28, 2003

SMEEEEEE!!!

Silentman0 posted:

To actually explain it: whenever something unexpected happens in the game cartridge, the developers made it so that it brings up the level select instead of crashing. Pretty simple, unfortunately.

But it's also a surprising bit of forethought on their part. Instead of making you lose all your progress mid-game, you'd get the option to pick up where you were or skip ahead if you want. And they even worded the screen thhat comes up to make it seem like you found an easter egg instead of the game just glitching, so you wouldn't even be mad about it.

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