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GreenBuckanneer posted:If I had my way, if you get bored of your artwork, just stop while you're ahead. This is a horrible thing to say and I do not think I can calmly participate in this conversation anymore.
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While I am starting to like some songs a bit more, I still stand by my original comments. One way to put it that I thought of was this: imagine if she had put five or so Speechlesses on The Fame/Monster. I think that would've detracted from it. But have just one, and all of a sudden it gives her credibility as an artist. At least, for me, that's what happened. Hearing Speechless for the first time (and later on, her "Stefani Germanotta" stuff) made me feel like it was okay to love this dance-pop chick. With the new album, it's like the other way around. I feel left wanting more dancy, poppy songs. Government Hooker is the only one of the "poppy" songs that captures the feeling of the last album, while having it's own memorable sound. And to whoever said they liked variety, hell yes. I love The Fame+Monster because of how cross-genre the songs are. You have your dance anthems, like Poker Face and the other singles. A bit of hip hop in Paper Gangsta and Starstruck. "In your face" songs like The Fame, Money Honey, and Beautful, Dirty, Rich. Kinda-sweet pop songs like Eh, Eh and Summerboy. Speechless is like an 80s powerballad, and Teeth is... something I can't quite put my finger on but it reminds me of big band music. Etc, etc.
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May 27, 2011 07:40
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somnambulist posted:You're kidding me right? In fact, the beatles are the perfect example of why artists NEED to grow. The difference between "I want to hold your hand" and "Elenor Rigby" is tremendous. Yes, I want to hold your hand is a good catchy song, but Elenor Rigby, Hey Jude, etc. are so much better it's not even funny. Yeah no kidding. I was going to respond to that as well. The Beatles are the one band I would pick to show the biggest evolution a band can make. What, pray tell, do the Beatles sound like? Pick a sound that tries to encapsulate all their albums and eras. Totally ridiculous.
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May 27, 2011 07:45
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GreenBuckanneer posted:"man I like The Beatles" ... everyone knows exactly what these things sound like. Not to pick on you, but this is one of the worst examples you could have chosen. I mean, in the time it took Lady Gaga to go from The Fame to Born This Way, The Beatles had gone from Please Please Me to Revolver, and over the duration of their relatively short existence they covered an obscene amount of ground.
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May 27, 2011 07:51
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stratdax posted:What, pray tell, do the Beatles sound like? Pick a sound that tries to encapsulate all their albums and eras. Er, I don't really know how to explain it actually. The Beatles sound like The Beatles. v  v
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May 27, 2011 07:52
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Er, I don't really know how to explain it actually. The Beatles sound like The Beatles. So we're including Please Please Me, Yesterday, Tomorrow Never Knows, Revolution 9, and Come Together in this, right? I mean, Lady Gaga's sound is a hell of a lot less varied than The Beatles so why couldn't someone just reply with "and Lady Gaga sounds like Lady Gaga"? This is silly.
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May 27, 2011 07:59
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sethsez posted:So we're including Please Please Me, Yesterday, Tomorrow Never Knows, Revolution 9, and Come Together in this, right? But apparently Lady Gaga changed her sound (from pop to... pop) so that's a betrayal against the fans, man. See, the Beatles sounded the same all throughout their career. They sounded like the Beatles. DUH! Edit: Green Buckanneer, you dumb.
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May 27, 2011 08:01
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I think he gets it, you doofuses. gandlethorpe has it right, too many Speechlesses would've made a boring and samey record, and I feel like Born This Way is a kinda boring and samey record. All of the songs sound way too similar to each other in that they're not as daring, varied or exciting as The Fame stuff, which is odd because BTW is much more ambitious than The Fame stuff. I dunno. Obviously Hair doesn't sound the same as Americano, but they feel similar in impact to me regardless.
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May 27, 2011 08:16
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So in 3 years Gaga went from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Abk1jAONjw to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNi9nIXxVo, which in the grand scheme of things is not that big of a difference. In 3 years the Beatles went from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNnaxGFO18o to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQal-lJrSLI So, yeah.
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May 27, 2011 08:18
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stratdax posted:But apparently Lady Gaga changed her sound (from pop to... pop) so that's a betrayal against the fans, man. See, the Beatles sounded the same all throughout their career. They sounded like the Beatles. DUH! I said earlier I wasn't specifically talking about Gaga, also Dark Weasel posted:I think he gets it, you doofuses. CharlieFoxtrot posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQal-lJrSLI The Beatles went from Rock to experiemental?  am I listening toGreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 08:24 on May 27, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 08:21
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GreenBuckanneer posted:The Beatles went from Rock to experiemental? This is why it's probably best to not use The Beatles as an example of a band maintaining a sound throughout their career. This is the only song of this sort they ever did, but they have a shitload of sounds that they only did once or twice.
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May 27, 2011 08:29
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I don't know if this has been posted before but haha http://www.thelonelyisland.com/video/jorm-dances-lady-gaga sethsez posted:This is why it's probably best to not use The Beatles as an example of a band maintaining a sound throughout their career. This is the only song of this sort they ever did, but they have a shitload of sounds that they only did once or twice. Yeah I was not aware of that kind of stuff they did at all.
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May 27, 2011 08:35
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somnambulist posted:You're kidding me right? In fact, the beatles are the perfect example of why artists NEED to grow. The difference between "I want to hold your hand" and "Elenor Rigby" is tremendous. Yes, I want to hold your hand is a good catchy song, but Elenor Rigby, Hey Jude, etc. are so much better it's not even funny. Yeah, the Beatles are possibly the biggest example of a band whose sound successfully changed over the course of their career. I mean we're talking about a band that went from suits and bowl cuts to full-on acid hippie in the course of about a decade and managed to still be superstars the whole time. Edit: also, you seem to be saying that if an artist wants to ever change what they do, they should... stop making art? I mean, I can sort of understand if you said they should use a different name or whatever, but "quit while they're ahead?" Chitin fucked around with this message at 14:58 on May 27, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 14:54
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The Good Morning America show was pretty good live. For some reason, Gaga cut out the "no matter gay, straight, or bi" section of Born This Way. Wonder if the program forced her to for ridiculous reasons, since it's only about 10 seconds long, making me doubt it was a time issue. Set was Bad Romance, Edge of Glory, Judas, Born This Way, Hair (Gaga on piano). Unfortunately she didn't do any songs after the program ended.
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May 27, 2011 14:57
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ohthatdan posted:The Good Morning America show was pretty good live. For some reason, Gaga cut out the "no matter gay, straight, or bi" section of Born This Way. Wonder if the program forced her to for ridiculous reasons, since it's only about 10 seconds long, making me doubt it was a time issue. I'd be pretty disappointed in her if she agreed to censor those lines of Born This Way from a TV performance.
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May 27, 2011 16:20
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I'd be pretty disappointed in her if she agreed to censor those lines of Born This Way from a TV performance. I completely agree. It was weird because she still sang the "no matter black, white, or beige" part. The people around me looked confused too because we all thought we sang the wrong line. ohthatdan fucked around with this message at 16:42 on May 27, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 16:38
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Here's a link to the MTV special on Gaga, "Inside the Outside". Well, it's actually a long interview about her past. Pretty good and interesting.
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May 27, 2011 20:35
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I think it's funny how afraid everyone was that this album was going to suck based on the singles and album art, etc. Oh, goons. Fortunately, it's amazing. Also Government Hooker sounds like it could be a KMFDM collaboration. Her bodyguard (the guy on backing vocals) sounds like Käpt'n K. Mediant fucked around with this message at 21:31 on May 27, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 20:49
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Mediant posted:I think it's funny how afraid everyone was that this album was going to suck based on the singles and album art, etc. Oh, goons. I was a bit worried after Born This Way was the first single released to be honest, wasn't too big on that song. Then Judas came out and any doubts I had were blown away.
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May 27, 2011 21:30
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Mediant posted:I think it's funny how afraid everyone was that this album was going to suck based on the singles and album art, etc. Oh, goons. I said the same thing about Government Hooker to my girlfriend! God drat it feels good to know I'm not alone.
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May 27, 2011 22:37
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Baby, you were BORN THIS WAY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JD9z44-LLE
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May 27, 2011 22:57
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TotallyUnoriginal posted:I was a bit worried after Born This Way was the first single released to be honest, wasn't too big on that song. Then Judas came out and any doubts I had were blown away. For me it was the opposite, Born This Way - well alright, pretty catchy. Judas - holy poo poo, this is bad. Then Edge of Glory came and it was all good again.
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May 27, 2011 23:04
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Mediant posted:I think it's funny how afraid everyone was that this album was going to suck based on the singles and album art, etc. Oh, goons. Pshh, it's clearly Patrick Stewart.
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May 28, 2011 01:01
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GreenBuckanneer posted:As for typecasting an artist into a specific sound or style, I find it's pretty easy and makes sense. When you go "man I like Britney Spears" or "man I like The Beatles" or "man, I like Blink 182" everyone knows exactly what these things sound like. They know what to expect, they know if they listen to something like that they're going to like it. But then you have an artist/band changing tracks like, mid lifestyle or towards the end of their game and, to me it's like, what are you doing? If you're going to change up this much, just release it under a side creation and let the old thing die if that's your interest now. The Beatles are not a good example. Listen to "Please Please Me" and then listen to "Rubber Soul." Two albums with completely different sounds. If one had lived under a rock and didn't know who the Beatles were and then listened to both albums, he or she would never realize it is the same group.
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Skilleddk posted:For me it was the opposite, Born This Way - well alright, pretty catchy. Judas - holy poo poo, this is bad. This is quite an odd opinion.
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May 28, 2011 05:03
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I'm sick of Born This Way now and I like Judas more.
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May 28, 2011 05:33
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I liked Judas at first, but I got tired of the song pretty quickly, even though the song was rarely played on the radio. On the other hand, I didn't really like Born This Way at first, but it really grew on me. Also, the remix of it on the international versions of the album is pretty good.
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May 28, 2011 06:36
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She just moved to right near where I live -- mixed feelings. (actually I guess she's lived here for awhile) Judas was good for the first 40 seconds, then I realized that was the whole song.
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May 28, 2011 07:24
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semicolonsrock posted:She just moved to right near where I live -- mixed feelings. (actually I guess she's lived here for awhile) I'm not trying to be creepy, I just want a general idea - somewhere in New York or what? And how did you find out?
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May 28, 2011 09:45
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I could listen to Born This Way 40 times in a row. Judas sounds like Bad Romance and I've already heard that song from her. Granted Judas has grown on me, but I didn't see anything special in it.
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May 28, 2011 09:50
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semicolonsrock posted:Judas was good for the first 40 seconds, then I realized that was the whole song. Yeah that's why I didn't like Judas at all. It's GaGa talking for a while, then a half-assed chorus, and repeat the same for 3 minutes.
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May 28, 2011 09:59
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Doctor Claw posted:I'm not trying to be creepy, I just want a general idea - somewhere in New York or what? And how did you find out? Chappaquiddick -- it's a little island off Massachusetts populated mostly by tourists during the summer and no one but my family in the winter. There were some news stories on it awhile back.
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May 28, 2011 10:30
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 Stephen Fry Interviews Lady Gaga Definitely a great read if only for his analysis of her, but the pictures are also awesome.
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May 28, 2011 11:00
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I love Judas, while I don't find it as good a song as Bad Romance and I didn't really like it the first time or two I listened, it's really grown on me and I absolutely adore it now.
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May 28, 2011 12:30
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My favourite part of the album, well I guess it's a majority chunk, is Schiebe to The Queen. I'm not so much a fan of the front end tracks but that middle section is sooooo good, I think it has what Gaga does best, which is really catchy, good sounding music that somehow avoids being cheesy.
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May 28, 2011 13:46
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The more I listen to this album, the more I like the songs I didn't like the first few times around - The Edge of Glory, the studio version of Yoü and I (loved the live piano version she did a while ago) and especially Hair. And I'm really glad that this is happening, although the byproduct of this is that every single song is stuck in my head.
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May 28, 2011 14:02
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Flayer posted:My favourite part of the album, well I guess it's a majority chunk, is Schiebe to The Queen. I'm not so much a fan of the front end tracks but that middle section is sooooo good, I think it has what Gaga does best, which is really catchy, good sounding music that somehow avoids being cheesy. I love the whole album, but the chunk from Hair to... well the end of the album is really amazing.
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May 28, 2011 14:59
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My favourite track on the whole album is Hair, which is weird, cause I was kinda iffy on it first. But holy poo poo I could have that blasting on repeat all day and die happy, it's just so awesome!
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May 29, 2011 00:49
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I haven't seen many comments on Bloody Mary or Marry the Night. They're my personal favorites on the album. One of my favorite parts about Marry the Night is how it starts off really meh and then turns awesome.
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Mediant posted:Fortunately, it's amazing. Also Government Hooker sounds like it could be a KMFDM collaboration. Her bodyguard (the guy on backing vocals) sounds like Käpt'n K. I also thought that.
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