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I see listings come up now and then for GS-12 jobs in fields related to what I do which have a year of experience listed as a requirement. I don't have the experience in exactly what the listing is for, but like I said, my job is similar and occasionally overlap. Am I wasting my time applying for them? Are agencies usually stringent with regards to experience?
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FooGoo posted:I see listings come up now and then for GS-12 jobs in fields related to what I do which have a year of experience listed as a requirement. I don't have the experience in exactly what the listing is for, but like I said, my job is similar and occasionally overlap. Am I wasting my time applying for them? Are agencies usually stringent with regards to experience? The specifics of your experience comes more into play when comparing you to other candidates for actual interview/job selection.
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May 7, 2011 13:43
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I've gotten two "Notice of Results" emails back from positions I applied for, however I haven't seen a status change on the USA jobs website. One is in the DA and the other is in the DoD, so I'm guessing this is just because they use their own systems. Does this mean that my application is being forwarded to a live human?
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May 10, 2011 22:05
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If you've received NORs, that means someone has reviewed your application and rated you. What did the NORs say?
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May 11, 2011 01:42
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JohnnyHildo posted:If you've received NORs, that means someone has reviewed your application and rated you. What did the NORs say? They pretty much just summarized the job notices that I applied for and included my scores from the screening tests. Is it a heads up telling me that I can expect a call for a phone interview soon, or do they still need to pull my resume first?
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May 11, 2011 18:27
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Based on about 6,000,000 variants of the same one application (applying to the USPTO is hilarious in a Kafkaesque sort of way), the NOR is telling you that some flunky has looked at your application, confirmed that you meet the absolute most basic requirements and are in fact a mammal, and now may or may not actually send your application to the agency you were trying to apply to in the first place. The only things you can truthfully read out of it is... 1) you aren't dead yet, and 2) if it says you aren't qualified, the application isn't going anywhere*. *Unless your application permitted multi-checking for a bunch of different grade levels of employment and you were qualified for one but not the other in which case oh god it hurts make it stop.
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May 11, 2011 19:06
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psydude posted:They pretty much just summarized the job notices that I applied for and included my scores from the screening tests. Is it a heads up telling me that I can expect a call for a phone interview soon, or do they still need to pull my resume first? Took Border Patrol Test: Friday Received NOR: Monday Received next communication from CBP, a tentative offer*: 4 months later *emphasis on tentative, essentially means nothing
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May 11, 2011 19:14
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What was the web address for that security clearance database where you could see the ID, a description and whether it was approved or denied?
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May 11, 2011 19:55
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Gravel Gravy posted:What was the web address for that security clearance database where you could see the ID, a description and whether it was approved or denied? Are you talking about the DOD Industrial Security Clearance Decisions Database? http://www.dod.gov/dodgc/doha/industrial/
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May 11, 2011 20:14
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Tyro posted:Are you talking about the DOD Industrial Security Clearance Decisions Database? Looks like it yeah. Was hoping to be able to pull mine up so I can start tossing out resumes mentioning my clearance, but not sure if it is active yet.
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May 11, 2011 20:24
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Took Border Patrol Test: Friday Figured as much. This is why I've been applying to these jobs so far out from when I can actually start work.
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May 11, 2011 22:00
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Gravel Gravy posted:Looks like it yeah. Was hoping to be able to pull mine up so I can start tossing out resumes mentioning my clearance, but not sure if it is active yet. Those are just for contractors (though you may be one; just sayin').
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May 11, 2011 23:48
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I just accepted an offer to work at State. Now I just have to wait for my clearance :/ Hopefully I can get an interim and start working in September or so.
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May 12, 2011 03:21
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Giodo! posted:I just accepted an offer to work at State. Now I just have to wait for my clearance :/ Hopefully I can get an interim and start working in September or so. Cool! Where at and what job? Also might want to post with the other State goons in the FSO thread.
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May 12, 2011 03:31
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Diplomaticus posted:Cool! Where at and what job? Also might want to post with the other State goons in the FSO thread. Well, I'm not in the foreign service. I have deep roots in DC and am too happy being based here to want to move around that much. I wish I enjoyed living abroad more; I'd be really into being an FSO. Going to be doing a PMF at INL.
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It's still people you'll be working with, think of it more of the broader State family thread. Congrats on the PMF though, several of my colleagues are former PMFs and they all loved it!
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May 12, 2011 04:42
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How soon is 'too soon' to email about a federal job? It's been a bit over two weeks. Does emailing the hiring guy and saying I'm interested have any weight on selection processes?
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May 17, 2011 06:22
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Giodo! posted:Well, I'm not in the foreign service. I have deep roots in DC and am too happy being based here to want to move around that much. I wish I enjoyed living abroad more; I'd be really into being an FSO. Going to be doing a PMF at INL. Congrats man, I'll be applying to PMF next year.
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May 17, 2011 13:42
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Alright so I applied to a low level position at the local USFWS through usajobs.gov. In the application package they have the documents you need (resume, transcript, veteran docs, etc), but nowhere is cover letter listed. Now I get that a cover letter isn't mandatory so they wouldn't list it, but anyone have any idea if I'm better off attempting to track down an email of a person doing the hiring and sending it to them or uploading it to my application package?
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May 17, 2011 20:14
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Drewski posted:How soon is 'too soon' to email about a federal job? It's been a bit over two weeks. Does emailing the hiring guy and saying I'm interested have any weight on selection processes? I've struggled with this in the past. In lieu of giving you bullshit from my rear end in a top hat, I'll simply give you two anecdotes you can extrapolate from or ignore at your leisure: a) when I was hired at my first agency out of the military, I initially interviewed at a hiring event/job fair. During the interview with my actual office boss, I was told by my boss that "the big boss" at the event decided to select me for an office interview in large part because I sent him a courtesy thank you e-mail. I sent it about a week after the fair. b) I interviewed for a different job more recently in December. I sent my courtesy thank you the next day (though this was too soon to send it, I do not believe it had an effect on the final decision). I then waited for months, wondering whether I was accepted or rejected. Today I finally contacted the organization again, and was told, "Oh, I sent you a letter on 1/3/11 stating another person had been selected for the position." So I should have pinged a second time sooner instead of waiting six months for nothing. I say you should send a brief "thanks for the interview" note 7-10 days following the interview. Giving time for him to have interviewed other candidates, then reminding him of you with your note, is probably a decent idea.
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May 17, 2011 20:35
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Zoo posted:I say you should send a brief "thanks for the interview" note 7-10 days following the interview. Giving time for him to have interviewed other candidates, then reminding him of you with your note, is probably a decent idea.
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would wait for interview then, personally. will either happen or won't
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May 17, 2011 23:40
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Thanks for the information.CheshireCat posted:I don't think he's even interviewed for the position yet, only applied. Applied and referred to the hiring manager. I suppose the POC listed on the job opening is more of an HR person than a hiring manager though, so I suppose emailing would not have much of an effect. I emailed the POC once before the listing expired, explaining that I had uploaded my college transcripts which were "expired" - it was a digitally signed PDF that my university sold me which has a one-year expiration date that I didn't know about, after which it cannot be opened. So I wanted to explain that I had uploaded a second set of transcripts and couldn't delete documents from the applicationmanager.gov website after they were uploaded. He emailed me back to tell me that it wouldn't be a problem. I also discussed my situation with my supervisor. As a term employee, I really have no choice but to apply to as many positions as I can to get permanent status. He spoke with my director and they discussed that I have been referred to other positions. I think he's going the VRA direct-appointment route and getting me permanent status before I take a permanent position elsewhere because he asked for my DD214. So hopefully I'll get permanent status one way or the other.
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May 18, 2011 19:51
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I hate funding cuts. It brings on emails like "Thank you for applying to be a Public Relations Specialist at NASA. But it got cut. But you would have been good for it!" Yeah, I'll be okay. I was only going to work at NASA. I need a hug.
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May 19, 2011 15:19
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Anyone have experience with the INFOSEC/IA (2210) jobs in the federal government? My BNCO has been really pushing hard for me to go into it since I have a lot of experience in IT, but I'm curious as to what exactly it entails.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I hate funding cuts. It brings on emails like "Thank you for applying to be a Public Relations Specialist at NASA. But it got cut. But you would have been good for it!" So we were told today that OMB was asked to give the Whitehouse a budget with a 10% cut across the board and what that would look like for the Federal government. This wasn't a "real" budget in the terms of something that would be submitted to Congress, but it does show that they are looking at how fairly significant cuts would affect things. The trend for the next few years is definitely going to be government reduction.
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psydude posted:Anyone have experience with the INFOSEC/IA (2210) jobs in the federal government? My BNCO has been really pushing hard for me to go into it since I have a lot of experience in IT, but I'm curious as to what exactly it entails. There are a few 2210s at my workplace and they seem like network wizards to me. They do IAVA, computer network defense (in a sysadmin context), etc. Sorry I can't be more specific. If you have a clearance and IT background, though, it seems likely enough you'd be going down that path based on what I've seen. If you asked what one of them did, they'd probably say they "put out fires." Maybe that statement makes more sense to you as a guy with IT experience than it would otherwise...
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May 20, 2011 21:29
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Wahoo...just negotiated myself a 10% raise! I somehow convinced HR and my future boss to start me on a step 4 instead of a step 1. I was asking about whether it was possible to start higher than a step 1 a while back, so just wanted to update. Over 2 months til I start...
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May 23, 2011 21:47
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DubDisciple posted:Well you guys were right about these things taking a while. I applied in January at the end of the application period for a position that was listed as Temporary -- March 2011 to March 2012. It is a chief of a department position and I figured the period of time for the position would be important. Probably an outgoing chief, and on top of that to secure quality candidates who are already professionals you have to be honest about when they would be working.
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May 31, 2011 23:59
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DubDisciple posted:May 31, scored the interview. Hah. This is inspiring; I wonder if I'm suddenly going to get a flood of phonecalls for interviews 2 months from now.
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Jun 1, 2011 02:07
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amethystbliss posted:Wahoo...just negotiated myself a 10% raise! I somehow convinced HR and my future boss to start me on a step 4 instead of a step 1. I was asking about whether it was possible to start higher than a step 1 a while back, so just wanted to update. Over 2 months til I start... Congrats, what position is this?
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Jun 1, 2011 02:19
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What's up with this?NAVFAC posted:OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 to Thursday, June 02, 2011 That is, having the "first consideration" cutoff be on the day of the job opening? Do they already have hiree(s) in mind and are just posting the job as a formality? Or are they targeting those who are motivated and literally checking USAJOBS every day?
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FooGoo posted:What's up with this? Sounds like someone is already picked for the job to me, and this is just a formality to get them into that position. That doesn't mean that someone else can't come in and gently caress up their plan, but they'll probably just say none of the top applicants met their requirements and try it again later.
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I applied for two positions via applicationmanager.gov and received NORs on 4/10/11 and 4/24/11, respectively. Both closed out around those same dates. One job is transcribing court martial proceedings on base, the other is basic administrative work for one of the flight squadrons-- not particularly high level or competitive, especially given the freeze order on new personnel PCSing into Japan (whereas I'm already here). Regardless, I applied in April and its June, haven't heard a peep. Is this normal? What kind of wait am I looking at here before getting a result of some kind?
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Suntory BOSS posted:I applied for two positions via applicationmanager.gov and received NORs on 4/10/11 and 4/24/11, respectively. Both closed out around those same dates. The anecdotal evidence from people in this thread suggests that you can expect a phonecall any time from tomorrow to 6 months from now.
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Mister Fister posted:Congrats, what position is this?
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Same story here. Referred to a position with the VA, haven't heard anything in a month and a half so I emailed the HR POC to mention that I was very interested and wondering if it had been filled. He told me the hiring official had not made any selection yet. I should have known that this would take a while as it had happened once before, but I was hoping that it was an isolated incident... I was previously offered a GS-7 intel analyst position at DHS 10 months after I applied for it. By then I'd already moved 600 miles, taken a GS-11 position and forgot about this entirely. Drewski fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jun 2, 2011 |
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DubDisciple posted:May 31, scored the interview.
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We just had a discussion about this earlier today with respect to some interviews two weeks ago. The system, basically, sucks. The person who's actually offered the job is often the only one knows about it. "Nice" hiring officials will give you a call and politely tell you you didn't get the job, but we're not even supposed to do that. You're supposed to go to the website with the announcement and see if it closed. If all you did was submit an application, that may be the only notification you ever get that your application wasn't accepted.
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I'm graduating with my master's next May. It's cool if I apply around now with the intent of having a start date next spring/summer, right? Considering I'm looking for an intel job I imagine the whole process will take at least 6-12 months (though I do have a clearance already).
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