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1) I say the ref is free to change his mind again. He can take the advice from his assistant refs an give the penalty 2) If he's off the field, he's off the field. Take the penalty. 3) Sub him off. The ref should have been aware of that before the game, but so should the club. Report it to the FA, they should probably get a fine.
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1) The game is finished. 2) Book the captain and tell him to find someone to take the goddamned penalty. 3) Sub him off, report to FA, enjoy the points deduction.
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May 27, 2011 12:22
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1) The "play on" bit indicates you were not impeded and made an informed decision on the play. Game over. 2) Ask the captain, who happens to be right in front of you, who will take the penalty. If refused (or if he thinks himself witty selects the injured dude), card him for the delay. If refused again, card him, send him off, and abandon the match. 3) Offer the chance for a substitute, document in match report.
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May 27, 2011 14:18
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So basically no-one disagrees on any of these. but to add weight.. 1) Game over. 2) Make them or simply reverse the decision to a defence free kick from where the penalty offense happened. 3) Sub him then and there, report both yourself and the club.
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May 27, 2011 14:50
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Oh noes!
Bio-Hazard fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jul 23, 2011 |
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May 27, 2011 16:09
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The relevant quote from LOTG for the first one:quote:The referee may only change a decision on realising that it is incorrect or, at his
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May 30, 2011 17:00
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quote:Keith Hackett's verdict Looks like his 3rd answer is not the same as what anyone said here?
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May 30, 2011 17:44
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The thing with the 3rd one is it's one of the many things that people send into to YATR because "it's about rules", but it's purely a competition rule and nothing to do with the referee - the LOAF says only that a team is 11 players including a goalkeeper, and some subs if you've got them. That's all the referee cares about. edit: and the "full report" says "at (time X) I was notified by Ron Knee of Neasden that his player Baldy Pevsner may have been playing while under suspension, the managers had a discussion and (said X, Y and Z), and (some things happened). Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 18:41 on May 30, 2011 |
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May 30, 2011 18:36
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I'm reasonably certain his answer for 3 contradicts an earlier one that I've encountered in the iOS app.
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May 31, 2011 15:22
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1. The rulebook explicitly states such disagreements are settled by a cage fight, but there is precedent for a robot dance-off. 2. Send everyone off, restart play with drop ball. 3. Repeat everything he says back to him in a whiny voice until he bursts into tears
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Jun 1, 2011 22:48
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Aren't we doing this anymore? 1: Notify player before kickoff, include in match report. 2: A red card should always be dealt with immediately. Stop play, send off the player and call off the match as they have less than seven players on the pitch. 3: Stop play as it's a foreign object that can cause injury. Restart with a drop ball.
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Jun 3, 2011 13:14
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1. I would love to see that match report. "Some twitter account on the internet that could be one of the players in the game I'm refereeing said this bad stuff about me." You should be discussing the game at halftime, not checking the internet. 2. Play advantage, caution and send off at the next dead ball opportunity. 3. It's a hazardous foreign object, stop play, remove the object, restart with a dropped ball. This situation probably could have been prevented if you were paying attention.
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Jun 3, 2011 14:17
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1. Do nothing except reporting it to the league after, because there are usually competition rules against players complaining about refs. But being a competition rule, it's not your responsibility. It's not really dissent because it's like him bitching in the locker room to his teammates, or perhaps to a TV interviewer. 2. Play advantage and then caution, show red, abandon. The reason to play advantage first is because the league decides what to do about it, and it's probably better to give them as full a game as possible to decide. 3. Stop play, drop ball.
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Jun 3, 2011 16:24
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1 - Pretend you never saw it and don't check your twitter at half time you div. "Discover it" after the game and report it, but you may as well not bother because if it REALLY happened then half the internet would have known before you ever got the chance. 2 - Play advantage, let it play out then pull it back just as if it was any other caution. Then do what you must. 3 - Stop Play, remove, start with drop ball.
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Jun 3, 2011 22:47
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2 must be play advantage, then second yellow and sending off. It won't result in an abandoned match because IIRC it is up to the referee's discretion when to abandon the match, not necessarily after 5 red cards
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Jun 4, 2011 01:15
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EvilHawk posted:2 must be play advantage, then second yellow and sending off. It won't result in an abandoned match because IIRC it is up to the referee's discretion when to abandon the match, not necessarily after 5 red cards No, the LOAF is very clear on that. A match will be abandoned if a team for whatever reason during the course of the match is unable to field a minimum of 7 players. The only exception is sideline treatment of injury until the player is unable to go on or resumes play.
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Jun 4, 2011 02:42
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Oh noes!
Bio-Hazard fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jul 23, 2011 |
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Keith Hackett posted:1) What are you doing checking Twitter at half-time? You should be focused on preparing for the second half. But now that you've had a look and seen the message, you just need to rise above it: you cannot deal with this during the match, but you can include it in your post-match report to the authorities. Andy Courtney wins the shirt. Odd that a potentially dangerous object shouldn't mean an instant stop in play. Was also sure that any offense that would result in a sending off should be dealt with at once, but since it's technically only a yellow it might pass.
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Jun 6, 2011 12:19
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Keith Hackett posted:The defender clearly should have played on rather than trying to get you to break up the attack for him, and then handed the scissors to you the next time the ball went out of play. Keith Hackett advocates running with scissors.
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Jun 6, 2011 16:11
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Scientastic posted:Keith Hackett advocates running with scissors. No, apparently the defender should have just left them on the ground so someone falls on them. Way better than stopping the game. e: And I guess running with scissors too.
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Jun 6, 2011 21:42
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I think he's seeing it more as the defender intentionally using the scissors to stop the attacking play, and trying to go after that rather than the scissors' presence on its own.
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Jun 6, 2011 22:52
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I don't care if he was, unless he dropped them in the first place a dangerous object on the pitch is a dangerous object on the pitch. If he gets a bit lucky this time fine.
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Jun 7, 2011 09:04
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What if he noticed them five minutes earlier and waited until that exact moment to grab them and reveal them to you because it gave him a large benefit?
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Jun 7, 2011 12:40
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vyelkin posted:What if he noticed them five minutes earlier and waited until that exact moment to grab them and reveal them to you because it gave him a large benefit? That's certainly trickery on the defender's part, but you'd have no way of knowing if he was waiting for a certain moment otherwise you would have stopped play to remove the scissors.
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Jun 7, 2011 17:17
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I mean yeah, you should generally be a little suspicious of players' intentions, cheating bastards they are, but this is a level of cynicism that is ridiculous and dangerous. Though it makes me think, if you noticed them first, you'd stop play, right? Even if the action is currently moving away from the scissors? I see it sucks to stop play if no one is in immediate danger, but if they come back on the counter and then you stop play it's even worse. I feel like if you think it's dangerous, stop play as soon as you've decided it's dangerous.
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Jun 7, 2011 18:12
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vyelkin posted:What if he noticed them five minutes earlier and waited until that exact moment to grab them and reveal them to you because it gave him a large benefit? Then he's a very smart man, doesn't change what you should do.
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It's Friday! But it looks like Trevillion and Hackett are on holiday so the Guardian have gone with something a bit different, I don't really know what to make of it 
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Jun 10, 2011 16:17
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1. Goal 2. Document in match report 3. wear one of the 4 jerseys you bought 2 panels ago
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Jun 10, 2011 16:25
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1. 12, Beckham, 9 2. Kill yourself 3. Stitch together a Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal shirt. They are all your favourites 
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SteadfastMeat posted:It's Friday! 1. Only buy one, with your name #69 on it, but from soccertriads.com. If the rivals become poo poo, find the 2nd most-sweetest soccer jersey and become a fan of that franchise. Email soccertriads and tell them your rival's jersey didn't come in the mail and request the new team one. 2. Post multiple threads on bigsoccer.com asking for a stream. Reply to every thread there asking for a stream. PM every TRP regular asking for a stream. 3. Blame it on a lack of attacking third entries. Suggest rule changes incl. goal line technology. Think to yourself "oh the MLS is porbably as good as the Premiership now!" and watch them, realize they're poo poo. This should provide enough time to forget 'your' team were poo poo. Repeat ad nauseam.
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SteadfastMeat posted:It's Friday! 1. Buy only one, with you first and last name with the number 1 2. No sweat, you have another tab open already with a Hungarian stream on mute that you can switch to 3. Find their shirt on your floor and toss it in the back of your closet so noone sees it, and buy a new jersey following the directions from the answer to #1
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3. One for burning one for pissing on and one to wipe your arse with. Even plastics know what a spurs shirt is for. No numbers or names. Stream? A real plastic watches motd and reads the sun to see how their team did. Wenger out!
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1. You look up on wikipedia who their most famous player ever was and get his name/number so you can claim you are a real fan and have been forever
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Jun 11, 2011 16:12
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3. always remember to save fm before a game
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SteadfastMeat posted:It's Friday! 1. Davey Beckman #7 2. Switch to Iraqgoals, get arrested by the FBI for going to a website with Iraq in the name 3. Reload FM (you did save right)
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Jun 11, 2011 17:43
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It's Friday, and it's a penalty special! I think: 1) Play on - Although I imagine there's some regulation on the sound of PA announcers or something 2) Retake - The keeper wasn't on his line? 3) No goal - Not sure you can flick and volley without touching it twice, and that's not allowed in a penalty
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Aug 12, 2011 09:47
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1) play on. Maybe report the club later if you feel it was intentional. 2) goal. You allowed the positioning of the ball. Keeper being off his line only matters in the case of a miss. 3) indirect free kick to the defence. Can only touch the ball once before another player does. Even woodwork doesn't count.
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Yesss, the season has now truly started. 1. Play on without retaking the penalty. Report the incident because there must be rules against making announcements when a penalty is being taken. 2. I don't think you have to retake a penalty where the keeper was off his line if it's scored. It's not the keepers job to worry about the ball being precisely on the spot. Goal. 3. No goal, you aren't allowed to take more than one touch in a penalty.
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Aug 12, 2011 10:12
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1. Play on, tell the taker to gently caress off 2. Goal, tell the keeper to gently caress off 3. No goal, tell the taker to gently caress off and yellow card him
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1. Play on, no retake. 2. Goal, keeper gained no advantage by being out of position. Warn the keeper to stop being a dickhead. 3. No goal. Yellow card to taker for unsporting behavior.
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