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topenga
Jul 1, 2003

grumpy posted:

I am right with you other miserable bastards.

Here in Oklahoma we have had a couple weeks of 105+ temperatures and nearly constant 15-20mph winds, gusting to 40-50mph. So ya, veggie garden is not handling the blast furnace treatment very well at all.

Couple of weeks of 100+ degree temps, no rain, and water rationing here in Austin, Texas. My sunflowers which are supposed to be 6 foot or taller are maybe 4, my cucumber plant which I swear I could watch grow and take over garden last year are growing but quite small, my peas just said "oh gently caress you" and died before they were 4 inches tall. The lone tomato plant, however, I am convinced was cultivated in hell. Why? It's thriving. I swear it just eats heat.

We did get rain last night. A little over an inch. Too little, too late Mother Nature. You bitch.

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MarshallX
Apr 13, 2004

RoadVirus posted:

Hello green-thumbed goons!

I just moved into a house at the end of march, and am working on getting a garden set up. I planted some seeds from a veggie garden kit given to me by the in-laws (onions, peppers, tomatoes, etc.) and set it up all nice and pretty.

I go outside the next day, and my dog, who has shown no interest in digging, had dug up EVERYTHING. there were huge holes in the garden, dirt everywhere, and my potted plants were spilled over. I tried my best to level things back out and kept watering in the hopes that stuff was growing, and it is, but i don't know what is what now since its been scattered about. I'm thinking about trying to re-plant them in some pots, and then re-try the garden area again.

Before I do that, I have some questions for you all:

Does anyone have experience keeping dogs out of gardens? What worked for you? I'm thinking I may have to get some chicken wire and posts and fence it off from her.

Also, does anyone know what sort of plants would be good to grow around the beginning of summer in Louisiana? I'm sorry if this has been mentioned already, but I don't know where in the 60-some odd pages to look. I'm working my way through, though.

The idea of being able to grow our own food and save money, as well as knowing what exactly is going into our food, is a big plus for us, and I'm excited to try and be just a little bit more self-sufficient than we are right now.

Thanks for any tips you guys/gals can provide!

I built a small fence out of cedar leftovers from my deck. It's only about 2' tall but it keeps my 100lb lab out of the garden.



Honestly, it all depends on the dog.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
NW Arkansas garden status check: No rain for a month after last month's 22 inch downpour. Ugh. SPACE IT OUT, MOM.

Onions fell over. But they're not dead yet? They're about ping pong ball sized down there in the dirt. I dunno.

Potatoes are blowing UP. We just put 'em in a big old rubbermaid and hilled them up about 6" a week for a month. I am really looking forward to dumping that bucket out.

Tomatoes seem to be holding off, just a few small fruits, and I have TONS of these little white bugs covering the plants. Aphids? Not sure. They're hard to wash off. The plants seem to be okay, though?

Pepper are coming in. except my habanero. I'm so depressed about it. ONE flower so far. My cayenne has already produced its first round (which I picked off, so as to encourage more peppers).

Herbs are mostly good, I have more lemon balm than I know what to do with. The mint is doing spectacularly in hanging baskets. And the catnip has the most adorable little flowers ever.

Water consumption: ~10 gal/day.

I'd take garden pix but it's 3am here. Just a buncha containers in the yard. :3:

Prathm
Nov 24, 2005

Does anyone of you know how to get rid of aphids? They're on a potted Mint, so I need something that's safe for inside and that won't make the plant inedible.

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

Prathm posted:

Does anyone of you know how to get rid of aphids? They're on a potted Mint, so I need something that's safe for inside and that won't make the plant inedible.

Lady bugs! Or neem oil.

noodlesinabag
Dec 25, 2009

Prathm posted:

Does anyone of you know how to get rid of aphids? They're on a potted Mint, so I need something that's safe for inside and that won't make the plant inedible.

I just spray them with a mixture of water and detergent. It takes them right off. You might have to do it for a couple of days though. I always seem to miss some.

dwoloz
Oct 20, 2004

Uh uh fool, step back

Prathm posted:

Does anyone of you know how to get rid of aphids? They're on a potted Mint, so I need something that's safe for inside and that won't make the plant inedible.

Aphids are supposed to be repelled by mint haha
They're also supposed to be repelled by onions but I've seen them on mine

Manual control is to crush them by hand (just touching them will kill them) or blasting them with water.
Neem or garlic/soap/oil mix would make the plant unpalatable to them
The larger and more effective control is biological: creating an environment conducive to predators like lacewings, ladybugs, hover flies, wasps, etc . Having lots of flowers will help attract these; they generally like tight clustered small flowers or compound flowers. There are lists on the internet of what plants can be used to attract beneficials



Our first garden year we had lots of pest problems. Psyllids and aphids mostly
Our second year though, we now had a established ecosystem of perennial plants, flowers, etc and tonssss of ladybugs. I think our neighbors release them and then they find their way to our yard. We haven't had pest problems since

If you are going to buy and release ladybugs, make sure to do it after you have watered the garden and around dusk. This will encourage them to hang around instead of high tailing it to greener pastures

dwoloz fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jun 24, 2011

Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe
Go the ladybug route, if only because nothing is more satisfying then knowing the little bastards are going to be devoured!

Cerri
Apr 27, 2006
We're lucky...in our neighborhood, we get *tons* of ladybugs. When I was prepping the beds for spring planting this past February there were ladybug larvae everywhere.

Cathis
Sep 11, 2001

Me in a hotel with a mini-bar. How's that story end?
Well, I have a much firmer idea of what plants are successful on what sides of my house now, that's for sure.

Cucumber; taking over everything.
Acorn Squash; not so much. Seem to have blossom-rot problems and the plants are kind of stunted.
Tomatoes; good thing I love tomatoes.
Spinach; wtf? Planted them, and they promptly bolted.
Bush beans; not satisfactory, going to have to go with the pole beans again next year. I have gotten exactly five beans off of 5 plants so far.
None of my peppers are growing well, which is weird, because last time I grew peppers I ended up with so many I froze them.
I am going to have a ridiculous crop of shallots, probably the size of my head.
Turnips... they appear to be making the fat root above the ground??
On the other hand, the lavender is growing like mad. Everywhere, in all directions.
Definitely going to have to revisit the squash and the peppers next year, maybe they will be happier elsewhere in the yard :/

Gardening is a fun frustrating mystery :)

Umbriago
Aug 27, 2004

I've got a courgette (zucchini) plant growing in a big tub on my garden table. Some of the leaves are looking funky. A few of them are looking white/brown, of which this is by far the worst:



Others have yellow spots, like this:






Any possible diagnosis?

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib
It's raining, again. It rained yesterday, all morning (it says 1/2 inch but it had to be more than that), it's raining now and for the rest of the evening. :(

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Umbriago posted:

I've got a courgette (zucchini) plant growing in a big tub on my garden table. Some of the leaves are looking funky. A few of them are looking white/brown, of which this is by far the worst:



Others have yellow spots, like this:






Any possible diagnosis?

Top one in nearly certainly nutrient deficiency. In summer, pot plants, especially greedy ones like cucurbits get very hungry for nutrients. Give it a liquid feed once a week and it should perk up.

ToastFaceKillah
Dec 25, 2010

every day could be your last
in the jungle

mAlfunkti0n posted:

It's raining, again. It rained yesterday, all morning (it says 1/2 inch but it had to be more than that), it's raining now and for the rest of the evening. :(

after never having rain in their entire lives (stupid drought) when we finally get an inch of rain the other day, all my sunflowers fell over. Stupid rain.

Generator
Jan 14, 2008



Shoot.

I guess these peppers are done for then? Lasted rather well during other hot days and thunderstorms. Guess the one day yesterday was too hot :(

Bigdee4933
Jun 15, 2006
Bigdee4933
Dear Guy with the plot next to mine,

gently caress you for spraying in between your rows with herbicide and killing some of my tomato plants. Like seriously, WTF?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Well, it seems that there are only 2 possible ways for a zucchini crop to go. Zero, or a nearly infinite number. From the fact that my planters look like a flowerpot rather than a vegetable just now, I'm expecting more than humanly necessary.

Good think I love 'em!

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

Liquid Communism posted:

Well, it seems that there are only 2 possible ways for a zucchini crop to go. Zero, or a nearly infinite number. From the fact that my planters look like a flowerpot rather than a vegetable just now, I'm expecting more than humanly necessary.

Dave Barry posted:

Minutes after you plant a single seed, hundreds of zucchini will barge out of the ground and sprawl around the garden, menacing the other vegetables.

He also wrote something around the lines of: A single zucchini is enough to feed a family of four for a year. The problem is one can not grow just one zucchini.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Yeah, that's why they're in a planter this year. Last time I did zucchini, they took over a corner of the yard, declared independence, and threatened my asparagus with invasion.

herbaceous backson
Mar 10, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Well poo poo. Went to pick my first tomatoes today, and a couple of them are pretty weird looking.

Some seem to have a dark gray/green discolored section on the bottom:



Anyone know what's going on with these?

herbaceous backson fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jul 1, 2011

Cerri
Apr 27, 2006

a handful of dust posted:

Well poo poo. Went to pick my first tomatoes today, and a couple of them are pretty weird looking.

Some seem to have a dark gray/green discolored section on the bottom:



Anyone know what's going on with these?

Looks like blossom end rot. Caused most usually by erratic watering, but occasionally it can signify a calcium deficiency.

Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater
Looking for a bit of advice on weed control. It's baby's first garden, so I don't actually have any idea what I'm doing. It's 20x20 space, divided up into 4x4 beds in a 3x3 grid, so walkways of ~2ft between beds. Everything's finally coming in enough for me to mulch around it (got a late start planting in some cases) which is going to save me a ton of work. But that still leaves the pathways.

Herbicide is undesirable both from an ideological standpoint and from not wanting to hurt my plants or those of my neighbors. It did occur to me reading the OP that I could put fabric weedblock down over the pathways, but that seems a bit silly.

Any other ideas, besides just hoeing every week?

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Doc Faustus posted:

Looking for a bit of advice on weed control. It's baby's first garden, so I don't actually have any idea what I'm doing. It's 20x20 space, divided up into 4x4 beds in a 3x3 grid, so walkways of ~2ft between beds. Everything's finally coming in enough for me to mulch around it (got a late start planting in some cases) which is going to save me a ton of work. But that still leaves the pathways.

Herbicide is undesirable both from an ideological standpoint and from not wanting to hurt my plants or those of my neighbors. It did occur to me reading the OP that I could put fabric weedblock down over the pathways, but that seems a bit silly.

Any other ideas, besides just hoeing every week?

What's silly about putting the weedblock down? It all depends on how much you want to spend, how much effort you want to spend maintaining it, and how you want it to look. You could cover the walkways with pavers, high initial cost and effort, but low maintenance afterwards. You could cover with weedblock, black plastic, cardboard, or newspaper, and cover that with bark, wood chips or sawdust. Or you could plant grass or a ground cover to crowd out the weeds.

Zeta Taskforce
Jun 27, 2002

Doc Faustus posted:

Looking for a bit of advice on weed control. It's baby's first garden, so I don't actually have any idea what I'm doing. It's 20x20 space, divided up into 4x4 beds in a 3x3 grid, so walkways of ~2ft between beds. Everything's finally coming in enough for me to mulch around it (got a late start planting in some cases) which is going to save me a ton of work. But that still leaves the pathways.

Herbicide is undesirable both from an ideological standpoint and from not wanting to hurt my plants or those of my neighbors. It did occur to me reading the OP that I could put fabric weedblock down over the pathways, but that seems a bit silly.

Any other ideas, besides just hoeing every week?

Yes, hoeing is one way to do it, but I doubt you need to do it weekly. It depends more on how pretty you want your garden to be. You could probably get away with doing it good once a month and then go back a day later and hand pull anything you missed. You can also put down a couple inches of mulch, whatever you can find between the rows and that will keep down the weeds too. I’ve heard of people using multiple layers of newspaper and wetting them together so they stick, but whenever I’ve tried to that it’s an uphill battle to keep them from blowing away before they get wet enough to stick together.

Doc Faustus
Sep 6, 2005

Philippe is such an angry eater

Cpt.Wacky posted:

What's silly about putting the weedblock down? It all depends on how much you want to spend, how much effort you want to spend maintaining it, and how you want it to look. You could cover the walkways with pavers, high initial cost and effort, but low maintenance afterwards. You could cover with weedblock, black plastic, cardboard, or newspaper, and cover that with bark, wood chips or sawdust. Or you could plant grass or a ground cover to crowd out the weeds.

I guess weedblock isn't so crazy, and newspapers could work. I'll have to weigh my options/steal some newspapers. Pavers are no good, though: it's a rented plot in a community garden space, so anything like that I'd have to remove and store at the end of the season.

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Doc Faustus posted:

I guess weedblock isn't so crazy, and newspapers could work. I'll have to weigh my options/steal some newspapers. Pavers are no good, though: it's a rented plot in a community garden space, so anything like that I'd have to remove and store at the end of the season.

I see. Our community garden is just getting started and dealing with a similar issue. Our plots are 10x12 with two plots touching along one edge. We're trying to figure out what to do with the grass walkways in between all of the rented plots.

I like the idea of layering and mulching. Use something that will degrade over the season and then your basically composting in the walkways and you can dig it into the plot for the next year and build up the soil.

Marchegiana
Jan 31, 2006

. . . Bitch.
Old cardboard boxes make great temporary weedblock, and worms love them. I've heard you can get lots of old boxes at liquor stores if you're in a state that doesn't have stupid puritanical blue laws.

Dr. Octagon
Aug 12, 2008

Ride or Die Bitch, Esq.
Something keeps felling my pea plants! We have three raised beds inside of an eight-foot fence that seems to be bunny-proof - besides, bunnies would probably eat the plants, not just fell them and leave them there. So I figured it was cutworms, and sprinkled diatomaceous earth around the bottoms of all the plants. But they are still being felled! I have pepper, tomato, cucumber, and watermelon plants out there that are 100% unscathed. Does this sound like cutworms? How can I stop them!?

Also, today I found this weird bug on one of the pea plant stumps. It kind of looks like a spiny shrimp. Does anyone know what the hell this is and if it could be causing this problem?

dwoloz
Oct 20, 2004

Uh uh fool, step back
I share your pain. Pea plants have rarely done well for me. They seem to the favorite food source of many pests; for us, mostly slugs
They're just finnicky also, I think they have sensitive root systems. Our plants that survived the slug onslaught later died from unknown causes, the stem started turning brown on the bottom then the whole plant died

Hot Dog Day 80
Jun 23, 2003

Doc Faustus posted:

Looking for a bit of advice on weed control. It's baby's first garden, so I don't actually have any idea what I'm doing. It's 20x20 space, divided up into 4x4 beds in a 3x3 grid, so walkways of ~2ft between beds. Everything's finally coming in enough for me to mulch around it (got a late start planting in some cases) which is going to save me a ton of work. But that still leaves the pathways.

Herbicide is undesirable both from an ideological standpoint and from not wanting to hurt my plants or those of my neighbors. It did occur to me reading the OP that I could put fabric weedblock down over the pathways, but that seems a bit silly.

Any other ideas, besides just hoeing every week?

I have found that grass clippings work very well

Dr. Octagon
Aug 12, 2008

Ride or Die Bitch, Esq.

dwoloz posted:

I share your pain. Pea plants have rarely done well for me. They seem to the favorite food source of many pests; for us, mostly slugs
They're just finnicky also, I think they have sensitive root systems. Our plants that survived the slug onslaught later died from unknown causes, the stem started turning brown on the bottom then the whole plant died

Man, that sucks. Do you think it's because their stems are more fleshy and succulent or something? Tomatoes and cucumbers are kind of hirsute, which I could see dissuading the slimy or soft pests. The peas were our heartiest seedlings this year, the first ones we transplanted outside, and every single one lived through the hail that killed off most of our cucumbers. I'm just pissed because literally a week ago the plants looked like this:



And now I have almost nothing left. I only got to harvest like three pods. Those three pods were tasty, though.

Marchegiana
Jan 31, 2006

. . . Bitch.
Peas really start to poop out once the temps start getting over the low 70's regularly, and a day of 80 degree plus weather will pretty much finish them off. I didn't even bother planting peas this year because we jumped almost immediately from 40-50 degree days straight into the 80's where I live.

hepscat
Jan 16, 2005

Avenging Nun
I planted snow peas early this year on the advice of a neighbor, and they did really well until we finally got some heat waves here in the SF bay area. Two medium-hot weeks and they are barely hanging on. We did get quite a bit off of them earlier in the season, though. Meanwhile, it's not been hot enough for my squash and tomatoes to really take off. I've had green tomatoes on the vine for three weeks.

Ninadene
Aug 7, 2004

Who's that hottie in your avatar?

Marchegiana posted:

Peas really start to poop out once the temps start getting over the low 70's regularly, and a day of 80 degree plus weather will pretty much finish them off. I didn't even bother planting peas this year because we jumped almost immediately from 40-50 degree days straight into the 80's where I live.

I'd like to grow peas (northeast colorado, zone5) but how do they do with freezing temps? cause with low 70s in the day, it seems like we're still freezing at night, or it seems only two or three weeks between freezing at night and then 80+ temps during the day.

Lyz
May 22, 2007

I AM A GIRL ON WOW GIVE ME ITAMS
Welp, came back from a quick little vacation to find three of my broccoli plants snapped off close to the ground, and deep hoof prints throughout the garden. So looks like the deer have discovered my veggie garden. They've only hit my broccoli so far, but looks like they're eyeballing all the other plants.

So, what do you all recommend for repelling deer? My foot and a half high fence is good for the bunnies and chickens but sure isn't going to stop deer.

Kilersquirrel
Oct 16, 2004
My little sister is awesome and bought me this account.
Shotguns, root vegetables, herbs, and a nice dark malty beer to braise in.

Lyz
May 22, 2007

I AM A GIRL ON WOW GIVE ME ITAMS

Kilersquirrel posted:

Shotguns, root vegetables, herbs, and a nice dark malty beer to braise in.

Nope, I'm too close to a school for that. Sounds tasty though. =)

dwoloz
Oct 20, 2004

Uh uh fool, step back

Lyz posted:

Welp, came back from a quick little vacation to find three of my broccoli plants snapped off close to the ground, and deep hoof prints throughout the garden. So looks like the deer have discovered my veggie garden. They've only hit my broccoli so far, but looks like they're eyeballing all the other plants.

So, what do you all recommend for repelling deer? My foot and a half high fence is good for the bunnies and chickens but sure isn't going to stop deer.

Only things you can do to stop deer are either a tall enclosed fence or only plant plants deer don't like (and there aren't many)
Some say peeing around your garden will deter wildlife but I wouldn't put too much stock in it

dwoloz fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 4, 2011

Kilersquirrel
Oct 16, 2004
My little sister is awesome and bought me this account.

dwoloz posted:

Only things you can do to stop deer are either a tall enclosed fence or only plant plants deer don't like (and there aren't many)
Some say peeing around your garden will deter wildlife but I wouldn't put too much stock in it

comedy option: Go balls-out berzerker with a spear like that one crazy cajun guy did with the feral hogs on his brother's rice farm. Or, call a friend who bowhunts, no report from a bow for anybody to call the cops about.

real option: Rosemary is supposed to do a good job deterring deer, get some in pots and move it around the perimeter. Otherwise a (sturdy) fence will probably be your only option there if you can't locate something like coyote or wolf pee.

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Lyz
May 22, 2007

I AM A GIRL ON WOW GIVE ME ITAMS
My mother-in-law used some tall netting and it seems to have worked, so I guess I'll get a hold of her and see where she got it. I was hoping for a simpler solution than a big ugly net around my garden, but oh well. Better that then getting no veggies.

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