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spasticColon posted:Is Metro 2033 worth $20? I've been wanting that game for a while now and my i5-2500K and GTX460 like pain. You probably should've picked it up during the Steam Summer Sale, but even at 20 it's worth it if you like brutal Eastern European shooters.
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spasticColon posted:Is Metro 2033 worth $20? I've been wanting that game for a while now and my i5-2500K and GTX460 like pain. It's a well made, very pretty linear shooter with some occasional jump scares. It's ok, but I've got to admit it didn't do a lot for me. In other news, I ordered my X-52, re-downloaded Freespace 2 and am going to grab FS2Open today as well, so a trip report will be forthcoming. I just wish I could experience "DIVE DIVE DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT!" for the first time again.
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Jul 15, 2011 12:03
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spasticColon posted:Is Metro 2033 worth $20? I've been wanting that game for a while now and my i5-2500K and GTX460 like pain. I thought it was fantastic. It's one of those games that is like playing through a book (it is based on one of the same name) and has some really subtle moral choices that give you multiple endings. Most people who play it don't even realise it has multiple endings. If you take your time and play it as if were a story rather than a game it is absolutely excellent. I can understand wholly why some people found it to be a linear shooter, because if you go into it hoping for an awesome fps game then it will just appear average.
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Creepy Goat posted:I thought it was fantastic. It's one of those games that is like playing through a book (it is based on one of the same name) and has some really subtle moral choices that give you multiple endings. Most people who play it don't even realise it has multiple endings. I feel the same way about it. That game is just dripping with atmosphere.
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Jul 15, 2011 12:55
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Also, the graphics? Metro 2033 just looks amazing, it really blew me away the first time.
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Jul 15, 2011 13:57
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I really enjoyed Metro 2033, but didn't realise there were moral choices in the game, and ended up blowing up part of the Metro where the "evil" dudes were
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Jul 15, 2011 14:27
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spasticColon posted:Is Metro 2033 worth $20? I've been wanting that game for a while now and my i5-2500K and GTX460 like pain. THQ does tons of sales and with the sequel coming "soon" you can bet they will do another one for it.
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Jul 15, 2011 15:23
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Zedd posted:Is it worth it? yes; should you get it for that price? no. yeah it was £5 during the christmas sale (don't remember seeing it during the summer sale?)
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Jul 15, 2011 15:42
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I got it for like $10 a while back, so yeah - maybe like an end-of-summer blowout, or something. It was just on sale last week, too.
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Jul 15, 2011 15:50
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Professor Latency posted:Dude, even on-board audio these days is great. I'm sure it'll be perfect. Sure if you like ground loops and badly isolated sound circuitry.
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Jul 15, 2011 17:01
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AlternateAccount posted:Sure if you like ground loops and badly isolated sound circuitry. Check out the parts-picking thread if you don't believe him. There's not a single person in that thread who will recommend a dedicated sound card unless you have special needs.
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Jul 15, 2011 17:07
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To be fair, audiophiles tend to be special needs people 
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Jul 15, 2011 17:16
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TO UNDERAGE GYMNASTS
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Dudebro posted:To be fair, audiophiles tend to be special needs people I like the audio from my x-fi titanium a lot more than onboard. Yeah I have to wear a helmet when I go out in public, so what?
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Jul 15, 2011 17:40
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i guarantee you that nice speakers will make a ton more difference than switching from onboard audio these days.
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Jul 15, 2011 17:43
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Devil Wears Wings posted:Check out the parts-picking thread if you don't believe him. There's not a single person in that thread who will recommend a dedicated sound card unless you have special needs. FWIW, I went with on-board audio on my latest build based on the recommendation of the parts picking thread and it's fine. But it's just fine. Good enough for gaming, but as soon as you start listening to music through a good pair of headphones, you notice that it's not quite great. A sound card is now on my upgrade list. On-board audio seems to be one of the most YMMV things in a build.
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Dr_Fever posted:FWIW, I went with on-board audio on my latest build based on the recommendation of the parts picking thread and it's fine. But it's just fine. Good enough for gaming, but as soon as you start listening to music through a good pair of headphones, you notice that it's not quite great. A sound card is now on my upgrade list. Make sure your cables cost at least $100 per foot as well, and to get the best results they should have a core of solid gold and phoenix feather.
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About Metro 2033: If you find it for cheaper somewhere elsewhere than steam you can just punch the cd-key into steam and lock it into your account. Its one of those games.
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Tufty posted:Make sure your cables cost at least $100 per foot as well, and to get the best results they should have a core of solid gold and phoenix feather. Don't be a dumbass, onboard audio lacking the power to properly drive good headphones is a real thing.
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Dr_Fever posted:FWIW, I went with on-board audio on my latest build based on the recommendation of the parts picking thread and it's fine. But it's just fine. Good enough for gaming, but as soon as you start listening to music through a good pair of headphones, you notice that it's not quite great. A sound card is now on my upgrade list. I actually did an experiment myself a while back. I used some headphones (a decent pair of Sennheisers) and listened to a few songs using both my motherboard's onboard Realtek audio and an old M-Audio Revolution dedicated sound card that I yanked out of an old build. Couldn't tell the difference. I'm not sure what you're expecting out of a dedicated sound card but most likely you're just blowing money on something that won't give you any improvement over what you already have.
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Tufty posted:Make sure your cables cost at least $100 per foot as well, and to get the best results they should have a core of solid gold and phoenix feather. I do apologize if my relatively harmless personal observation caused you some concern.
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K8.0 posted:Don't be a dumbass, onboard audio lacking the power to properly drive good headphones is a real thing. So why not just buy a headphone amp and be fine forever instead of a card that you'll install and then have to remove and hope you can install it again? If power is the only issue, that seems like a better solution.
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If you're looking for good sound, I recommend looking at these: http://tweakheadz.com/soundcards_and_audio_interfaces.htm
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K8.0 posted:Don't be a dumbass, onboard audio lacking the power to properly drive good headphones is a real thing. Oh boy here we go. Like what was already previously mentioned, unless you're some studio or audio engineer you really don't need anything more than onboard audio to appreciate good sound in games. Getting into amps or spending money on expensive cables or dedicated sound cards should be reserved for you audiophiles and not for people that just play games on their PC.
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Amrosorma posted:If you're looking for good sound, I recommend looking at these: I hope you're posting this ironically because it's some of the more ridiculously spergy poo poo I've seen come from the audiophile crowd. Seriously some of those cost more than an entire gaming PC. MrMidnight posted:Oh boy here we go. Sadly, certain people into PC tech aren't known for their appreciation of value versus performance. These are the same people who will buy some ridiculous Core i7/SLI GTX 580 setup in order to "max out" PC games at 1080p. Seriously, if you're in doubt about this sort of thing, go read/post in the Parts Picking thread and they'll knock some sense into you.
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Devil Wears Wings posted:I hope you're posting this ironically because it's some of the more ridiculously spergy poo poo I've seen come from the audiophile crowd. Seriously some of those cost more than an entire gaming PC. I'm not an audiophile, but I am a composer and musician. The bottom end audio interfaces are very good if someone feels their onboard sound is not enough  That site is not for "spergy audiophiles" unless you have a very low opinion of musicians, producers, and engineers.
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I'm a radio producer, I have one of those ridiculously expensive audio interfaces, and I'm telling you there's almost no difference (unless your motherboard is a piece of junk).Amrosorma posted:I'm not an audiophile, but I am a composer and musician. The bottom end audio interfaces are very good if someone feels their onboard sound is not enough He means for gaming, this is the gaming thread. Audio interfaces are obviously better for sound input.
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Amrosorma posted:I'm not an audiophile, but I am a composer and musician. The bottom end audio interfaces are very good if someone feels their onboard sound is not enough They're also at least $200, from what I can tell. And designed for home-studio musicians. quote:That site is not for "spergy audiophiles" unless you have a very low opinion of musicians, producers, and engineers. This is a gaming thread. Who ever started talking about musicians and producers? E: The "spergy" part I was referring to was your promoting expensive audio equipment designed for musicians and producers to people who think their onboard audio isn't "enough," whatever that means. Not the site itself. Devil Wears Wings fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 15, 2011 |
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Here's what you need for gaming. Does it make a big boom? If so, congrats! It's good enough for gaming!
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I hate to interrupt an audio derail, but I have a question. Recalling my childhood love of flight sims, I bought Il-2 Strumovik when it was on sale a few days ago for $5. But, I don't have a flight stick. I was wondering if someone could recommend a guy a good flight stick for less than $50?
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Here's what you need for gaming. Does it make a big boom? If so, congrats! It's good enough for gaming! Indeed, I love my 0.1 speaker setup.
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A Renaissance Nerd posted:I hate to interrupt an audio derail, but I have a question. Logitech 3d Extreme Pro: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-Joystick-Silver-Black/dp/B00009OY9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310751475&sr=8-1
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Blackula69 posted:I'm a radio producer, I have one of those ridiculously expensive audio interfaces, and I'm telling you there's almost no difference (unless your motherboard is a piece of junk). Yeah, I see what y'all are saying now  What are some good sticks that are above $50 but below $150?
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Majesty 1 Gold, should I play everything through the expansion pack exe?
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Red Baron posted:So why not just buy a headphone amp and be fine forever instead of a card that you'll install and then have to remove and hope you can install it again? If power is the only issue, that seems like a better solution. Because sound cards are internal rather than sitting on my desk and really aren't expensive, and will easily last you several computers. Why exactly would you want to use a discrete headphone amp? MrMidnight posted:Oh boy here we go. I didn't say anything about the quality of onboard, I said the power output sucks. Good headphones are one of the best investments you can make as a gamer, and a lot of the best options are not going to work all that well with onboard sound.
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I've always used sound cards. Back before every mobo had 5.1 on it you just had to. Since 2005 I've been using a Dolby encoder card to output my audio to a receiver with an optical cable. First I used a Turtle Beach Montego, and now I use a Sound Blaster X-Fi. I know current video cards can do thus, but they didn't when I bought the X-Fi. What is still unique about the X-Fi, as far as I know, is that the Alchemy software turns that 5.1 multichannel, 3 cable surround support from older games into encoded DD or DTS for my receiver. Admittedly I haven't made extensive use of that feature, but it worked well when I did use it. So even with 7.1 Multichannel, optical, and HDMI on my mobo, plus hdmi audio from my GPU, I'm still rocking a sound card.
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Can any of you gents recommended me a decent PC within the $400 range? I just got into PC gaming and need a good lead on what to get. Laptops actually
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Nuuds P00dle posted:Can any of you gents recommended me a decent PC within the $400 range? I just got into PC gaming and need a good lead on what to get. Laptops actually I could not recommend a laptop for PC gaming, and certainly not at $400. I would recommend visiting SH/SC for advice though. They could probably get you into a decent desktop for gaming on $400 or so, but I would recommend saving a little bit more cash before starting a build. I guess this depends heavily on what level of gaming you're after.
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Nuuds P00dle posted:Can any of you gents recommended me a decent PC within the $400 range? I just got into PC gaming and need a good lead on what to get. Laptops actually Visit this thread. $400 won't get you much in the way of desktops, let alone laptops, however. For desktops, you're looking at maybe the $600 range for a budget gaming machine; for laptops, probably twice that.
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K8.0 posted:I didn't say anything about the quality of onboard, I said the power output sucks. Good headphones are one of the best investments you can make as a gamer, and a lot of the best options are not going to work all that well with onboard sound. My AD-700's were plugged into my motherboard. You could hear a lot of scratches and pops, pretty bad things like that. I found my old 20$ soundcard and fixed everything. Granted this was a 4 year old computer, and maybe the most recent ones may not have this problem, but a quick  fixed that problem.Re:Laptops- At any price range, you'll be shelling out tons of extra money for a laptop of similar power to a desktop. I tend to think of Laptop gaming as a luxury item, because a 1000$ laptop has a desktop equivalent which costs 600$. And the 600$ machine may do even more. buglord fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jul 15, 2011 |
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Nuuds P00dle posted:Can any of you gents recommended me a decent PC within the $400 range? I just got into PC gaming and need a good lead on what to get. Laptops actually You will not get a good gaming laptop at practically any price. I hate gaming laptops.
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