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Whitecloak posted:I propose this as the Azerbaijani National Anthem: I atlar sevgi Bütün heyvanların ən yaxşı I atlar sevgi onlar dostlarım var  edit: So all of our vassals hate us despite saving the islamic world from the crusaders. I eagerly await the upcoming fragmentation. Proposition Joe fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Aug 10, 2011 04:06
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Not surprising that everyone wants to kill the Sultan after he loots and insults glorious Kurdistan.
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Aug 10, 2011 04:07
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While our Sultan may not be a perfect man, we cannot argue with his results. That was a remarkably successful counter-Crusade. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson now.  Well our subjects may hate our guts... but at least we got the Christians out! So it'll all be worth it. ...Right? Rejected Fate fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Aug 10, 2011 04:08
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Revenge is a dish best served on a kebab. Now lets just hope those ungrateful little bastards don't spoil it...
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Aug 10, 2011 04:19
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Pfft, problem and solution come in a package. Too much reputation, and all our vassals are about to rebel? Just re-vassalize them whenever they rebel and cede claims to their land. Kabam, instant rep sink
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Aug 10, 2011 04:29
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Fantastic! I just happen to wander in the LP forum after a pretty fair absence, only to find another Wiz Mega-LP! Azerbaijan will make trains, damnit!
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Aug 10, 2011 04:32
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Ungrateful bastards. Ertan deals the heathens their greatest defeat in generations, doing more to push Christianity back than the real life Saladin ever dreamed, and the whole Ummah turns on him. Of course, Ertan's bad reputation can be mitigated by distributing all the land he conquered to his faithful subjects and courtiers, but with such a low stewardship attribute and his warchest used up, it'll be hard to
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Aug 10, 2011 04:34
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So your vassals hate and distrust you for delivering a massive defeat to your religious enemies? Someone should tell them the name of the game they're in.
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Aug 10, 2011 04:35
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Wiz posted:This right here is pretty much CrusaderKings.jpg
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Aug 10, 2011 04:43
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Time to convert to Christianity and put your traitorous underlings to the sword! If the Muslims won't appreciate your prowess, maybe the Pope will.
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Aug 10, 2011 04:44
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Maybe they're just being opportunistic. After all, the Christians are no longer a threat, and Azerbaijan is over extended, and now this upstart Azerbaijani king is looking less useful and more vulnerable. (Though I'm sure this isn't how the game mechanics work out.) Well, as long as the empire collapses into a pile of Muslim states instead of Christian ones, this whole adventure will still have an extremely positive impact on the world.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:01
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Eiba posted:(Though I'm sure this isn't how the game mechanics work out.) It is and it isn't. If you appear weak and unable to fend off a challenge, your vassals will jump you. They'll also jump you if you have a tremendously bad reputation.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:04
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Eiba posted:Maybe they're just being opportunistic. After all, the Christians are no longer a threat, and Azerbaijan is over extended, and now this upstart Azerbaijani king is looking less useful and more vulnerable. (Though I'm sure this isn't how the game mechanics work out.) It's supposed to simulate your vassals feeling threatening by your rising power basically.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:05
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Oh what! This is absurd. Well, I hope the region remains Muslim despite it all.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:12
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Wiz posted:It's supposed to simulate your vassals feeling threatening by your rising power basically. Bitches be trippin' just wait till the hordes show up then they be like "oh oh Ertan please save us, I'm a limp wristed son of a goat and couldn't organize a herd of sheep let alone a whole drat Jihad." Ungrateful ingrates.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:15
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Gotta love the tidal forces in these Paradox games. Truly we have reached the ebb of high tide, and are about to experience the low.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:18
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How difficult is it to create a tyrannical dictatorship, ruling all territories directly and keeping the populace loyally terrified of your iron grip?
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Aug 10, 2011 05:22
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AgentF posted:How difficult is it to create a tyrannical dictatorship, ruling all territories directly and keeping the populace loyally terrified of your iron grip? About as easy as it is in real life, probably. I.e., it works great for smaller countries, doing it to larger countries and/or over long periods of time will probably gently caress you over though.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:25
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AgentF posted:How difficult is it to create a tyrannical dictatorship, ruling all territories directly and keeping the populace loyally terrified of your iron grip? Impossible with a large realm. Your intrigue and title level (count, duke or king) limits how many provinces you can rule directly, if you rule more than that youn lose 10% of your income per province above your limit (so if your limit is 8, at 10 provinces you get 80% income). Furthermore, if you get less than 80% income efficiency you start getting really bad events like bandits going on rampage through your provinces and so on.
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Aug 10, 2011 05:26
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Well, you could play as the Pope or a Mongol since they get no demesne size penalties. New plan: Convert Mongols to Islam; marry into Mongol bloodline
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Aug 10, 2011 05:27
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AgentF posted:How difficult is it to create a tyrannical dictatorship, ruling all territories directly and keeping the populace loyally terrified of your iron grip? I had the Mongols rampage through the entirety of Europe, conquering literally everything in its path all the way through France if that's what you're asking. (Although to be fair, I didn't continue playing that one so I never saw how it turned out)
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Aug 10, 2011 05:35
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AgentF posted:How difficult is it to create a tyrannical dictatorship, ruling all territories directly and keeping the populace loyally terrified of your iron grip? Incredibly easy if you're the Mongols or a republic: they have no limit to their demesne. EDIT: Or the Pope. That works too. Servant fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Aug 10, 2011 06:06
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Marry into the pope's bloodline; problem solved.
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Aug 10, 2011 06:11
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 Um...  Wiz, how did the Emir of Khwarizmia get passed down from Kasim the loyal, royal regent to this Aydogdu pretender? EDIT: And why do we have an Emir of Derbent when we do not actually own Derbent? EDIT2: Alright, looking at this picture, I think I get it. The Emirates are the Muslim version of "duchies" in CK, and that for whatever reason, the game decides to call that specific collection of provinces the "Derbent" emirate, and that is what you're giving him...not the actual province of Derbent. VVV Or rather, what you said. Servant fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Aug 10, 2011 06:16
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Servant posted:EDIT: And why do we have an Emir of Derbent when we do not actually own Derbent? The joys of CK. Ducal titles you hold can be distributed more or less at will. In this case, our good ruler probably owns the other 2-3 provinces that make up the title so it hasn't been usurped by the Count (Bey) of Derbent. In my Sicily -> Alexandrian Crusader State game I took perverse delight in scrambling up the Dukedoms, so the Duke of Cairo ruled from the Italian Peninsula etc.
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Aug 10, 2011 06:32
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In my current CK game I have a Duke of Nicaea that rules Malta and only Malta, so yeah, you can totally have Dukes in territories that are unrelated to their titles.
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We may not need to panic too much, guys - reputation is (partially) repaired by handing out titles; giving the lands of Jerusalem to loyal and courageous vassals will doubtless improve matters. The question is whether it will repair the damage enough, which is, um... tough to tell. And probably, given such vast, rapid gains, unlikely. But even shrinking the Sultan's demense by one or two provinces (he's at 7 right now, and that's probably just hitting the edge of his limit) we can make repairs. Ultimately, though, it'll probably come down to dealing with a fuckload of rebellions; in my (admittedly limited) experience, if a rebelling noble doesn't have the 'Rebellious' trait and isn't already a fierce rival of your ruler, you can usually get away with accepting 'they will become our vassal' and nothing else as a peace demand. That'll reset their loyalty to 100 and since your demand is usually so much smaller than your war score, I think that has positive benefits to your reputation as well. The upshot is, the Sultan has plenty of work in front of him, but I wouldn't go doomsaying just yet, is all.
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Wow that was awesome, but like everyone has said, for every high in a Paradox game, there's a low, and I worry for our low. I'm still holding out hope for a Middle East Switzerland, just because that would be awesome.
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What are the the religions of the Levant provinces? Have any of them been converted to Christianity, or were they all Muslim provinces with Christian overlords?
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Aug 10, 2011 08:52
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Good times are about to start.
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Aug 10, 2011 10:04
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Extremely bad reputation isn't necessarily that bad. Doling out a lot of land and titles combined with some trickery and tactical smackdowns of rebellious vassals can turn your badboy score around surprisingly fast. Then again, gaming the system would not be amusing, so I hope everything disintegrates in a massive orgy of blood and death.
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Aug 10, 2011 10:40
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What happens to semi-salic gavelkind when you gain an emperor title? Will it make the primary heir inherit everything until you get another one/lose it?
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Asehujiko posted:What happens to semi-salic gavelkind when you gain an emperor title? Will it make the primary heir inherit everything until you get another one/lose it?
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"Emperor" is a trait you get for holding 5 King titles (or three specific King titles: Germany, Burgundy, and Italy), having 10 vassals, not be modest, and have very high Piety to represent good relationship with the Pope. (Source) The reason I believe "Emperor" is a trait as opposed to a title is that historically, the Holy Roman Emperor was crowned infrequently by the Pope, and the HRE was more commonly known as just the King of Germany. It's not anything really useful anyway; according to this Paradox thread, it just increases your prestige. Servant fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Servant posted:"Emperor" is a trait you get for holding 5 King titles (or three specific King titles: Germany, Burgundy, and Italy), having 10 vassals, not be modest, and have very high Piety to represent good relationship with the Pope. (Source) So, is anyone else thinking we should spread Islam to Germany, Burgundy, and Italy?
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Aug 10, 2011 13:48
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Tomn posted:So, is anyone else thinking we should spread Islam to Germany, Burgundy, and Italy? We should try to spread Islam to all the world.
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Aug 10, 2011 14:07
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It would be cool to completely eliminate Christianity as a real religious force in the world and then have a bunch of Islamic religious movements which could spread throughout the Muslim world after certain events like the spread of the printing press, discovery of Americas, etc...
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Hey Wiz, a question: Was anything done to rebalance the province base values in CK in your setup? I find too much of the world of CK is uncharacteristically poor, which limits what improvements can be built there (beyond the existing problems like not being able to put a Mine/Forestry on Desert), which keeps them even poorer. It's a bit ridiculous in my mind, as it makes the big city provinces absurdly wealthy (but only some of the big cities, apparently) and everything else absolutely worthless. I suppose another solution would be to make the requirements for province improvements a little more generous so weaker provinces can at least be nursed up to profitability.
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We must have the Sultanates of Firansa, Skandistan, Al-Alemand, Ruma, and Magyaristan. It'll be just like Dark Continent!
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