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Cardinal Ximenez
Oct 25, 2008

"You could call it heroic responsibility, maybe," Harry Potter said. "Not like the usual sort. It means that whatever happens, no matter what, it's always your fault."
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? - No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? - Yes.
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? - No, but maybe the Yuan Dynasty took Hokkaido.
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? - Only in New Zealand. (could be due to a complete lack of humans; the Maori don't show up until about the 1300s CE)
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No.

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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. :hellyeah:
5. Yes.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
Vinland is super cliche in my opinion. Everyone's idea of alternative history for North America is "Vinland survives" or "The Iroqois unite all the tribes in a democratic republic", or both.

Anyway,
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) No (it's a nice idea, but I prefer the idea that history is the same up until the start of the LP)
5) Yes

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
All this voting is making me think we should improve the process creating parties to represent where we stand on these historical questions.

Say, for instance, 5 parties.

Each party would decide internally through a system of sponsorship and co-sponsorship a historical question that makes it to a general bill that can be voted yes or no by all the participants in this, let's say for the lack of better word, Senate. For historical questions and matters.

This way we would know whom to blame whenever anything happens on our alternate history scenario (it's the populists).

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
I'm gonna vote No to all 5 - Because hopefully that will make the stupid ideas less likely to pass.

Megafauna? What difference does that make in EU3!

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)

The Saurus posted:

I'm gonna vote No to all 5 - Because hopefully that will make the stupid ideas less likely to pass.

Megafauna? What difference does that make in EU3!

:argh: populists!! :argh:

Verus
Jun 3, 2011

AUT INVENIAM VIAM AUT FACIAM

Kanthulhu posted:

Each party would decide internally through a system of sponsorship and co-sponsorship a historical question that makes it to a general bill that can be voted yes or no by all the participants in this, let's say for the lack of better word, Senate. For historical questions and matters.



Look, as long as one of them gives us trains by 1401, I'm down.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

The Saurus posted:

Megafauna? What difference does that make in EU3!
I voted "Yes" on that question precisely because I was curious about the answer.

I suppose it could give Australia/NZ some extremely valuable and unique trade goods, though that would probably only have a noticeable effect around the Vicky era.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
It will give whoever holds New Zeeland and/or Australia a single flavor event during Victoria 2 which gives them +5 prestige. That's all it'll do.

e; I'm happy that Timur surviving is in the lead. Timur owns. (even though it doesn't make much sense that he shows up after 300 years of alternate history, but whatever.)

Kainser fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Aug 20, 2011

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


NihilCredo posted:

I voted "Yes" on that question precisely because I was curious about the answer.

I suppose it could give Australia/NZ some extremely valuable and unique trade goods, though that would probably only have a noticeable effect around the Vicky era.

I assume that any civilisation there will get its own tech group with sweet, powerful "cavalry" units.

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? No.
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes.
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? Yes.
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes.

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? No.
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes.
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? Yes.
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? No.
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes.
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? Yes.
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No.


Awww yeah!

Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
Yes.
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
Yes
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
Yes.
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?
No.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? No
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes

NeoAnjou
Jul 22, 2010

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1) Yes
2) Don't have a strong opinion.
3) No
4) Yes
5) Don't have a strong opinion.

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? No
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? No
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes

Veris
Jul 5, 2007

1. Y
2. N
3. N
4. N
5. Y

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Kainser posted:

e; I'm happy that Timur surviving is in the lead. Timur owns. (even though it doesn't make much sense that he shows up after 300 years of alternate history, but whatever.)

In the Hohenzollern LP, Otto von Bismarck showed up after 700 years of alt history. Basically, if a historical figure is awesome or interesting enough, then he's immune to the butterfly effect. Kinda like how in every alternate history that leads up to the late 20th century, Nixon always exists and is usually a used car dealer.

BlackJosh
Sep 25, 2007
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? YESSSSS (anyone saying no to this is dead inside. DEAD)
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No

Rogue0071
Dec 8, 2009

Grey Hunter's next target.

Current Vote Count

1. 15-40 NO leads
2. 32-23 YES leads
3. 37-20 YES leads
4. 38-15 YES leads
5. 20-36 NO leads

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

iLurk
Jul 25, 2007

Who wants to get PREGNANT?!?

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) No
5) Yes
That could be interesting.

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? No
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? Yes
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


1) No
2) No
3) Yes
4) No
5) Yes

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Reveilled posted:

Vinland is super cliche in my opinion. Everyone's idea of alternative history for North America is "Vinland survives" or "The Iroqois unite all the tribes in a democratic republic", or both.


That's because there isn't much to work with and not go entirely into fantasy land.

We can have a native american version of Alexander the Great or Charlemagne who unites America during the CK age and come EU3 the Native American Empire invents large sailing/steam ships, machineguns, inoculation and goes on to colonize Europe in their quest for revenge against the filthy Viking/Andalusian exploderer/invaders :allears:

(Do this Wiz)

James Peach
Dec 30, 2008
1) Y
2) N
3) Y
4) Y
5) Y

Gorko The Duck
Jun 28, 2005
It is not permissible to change a man whose male sexual organ is complete and likewise a woman whose female sexual organ is complete to the opposite gender
1) No.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
5) No.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
1 Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2 Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? No
3 Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes
4 Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? Yes
5 Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No

Aesirstorm
Sep 16, 2002

NOT GAY
Dinosaur Gum
1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No

berryjon
May 30, 2011

I have an invasion to go to.

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

1:NO
2:YES
3:NO
4:YES
5:NO

Usual Barb
Aug 27, 2005

pop it and lock it

Wiz posted:

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion?
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) No
5) No

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



1) No
2) Yes
3) No
4) Yes
5) No

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? No
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? No
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal

NihilCredo posted:

I voted "Yes" on that question precisely because I was curious about the answer.

I suppose it could give Australia/NZ some extremely valuable and unique trade goods, though that would probably only have a noticeable effect around the Vicky era.

Eh, not quite. Having some large animals means there's a chance some of them can be domesticated for labor or war, both of which are huge advantages for whoever is around to domesticate them. For example, the Great Plains were never settled by Native American farmers despite knowledge of agriculture existing in the American Southeast and the presence of crops like corn (borrowed from Mexico) which are fairly well suited for the area. One of the main reasons is that there were no animals like horses or oxen to pull plows, so all farmwork was done by hand, which is impossible in the relatively hard topsoils of the Great Plains.

Since agriculture is a, if not the, cornerstone of advanced civilizations, not having farm animals is a gigantic drawback that pretty much ensures you'll stay in the stone age.

Rogue0071
Dec 8, 2009

Grey Hunter's next target.

Current Vote Count

1. 19-53 NO leads
2. 44-29 YES leads
3. 46-28 YES leads
4. 50-20 YES leads
5. 25-46 NO leads

1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign?
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island?
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent?
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile?

Rogue0071 fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Aug 20, 2011

Servetus
Apr 1, 2010
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No

Tiny Turtle
May 2, 2008

Hi, buddies!
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No.
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes!
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? Yes!
4) Did the Australian megafauna survive human migration into the continent? Yes!
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? No.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
1) Did Timur die during his first military campaign? No
2) Did Zabulistan successfully resist the Ghaznavid invasion? Yes
3) Did the Mongol invasion of Japan succeed in reaching the island? No
4) Did the megafauna in Australia/New Zealand survive human migration into the continent? Yes
5) Did Sundiata Keita die in exile? Yes

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markus_cz
May 10, 2009

1) NO
2) NO
3) YES
4) NO
5) YES

Go, Mongols, go!

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