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Metanaut
Oct 9, 2006

Honey it's tight like that.
College Slice

Samurai Sanders posted:

What is with none of these reviews mentioning how the PS3 version runs? Is there no review copy of the PS3 version or something?

Give it a day or two and I'm sure Gametrailers will have their usual 360 vs PS3 comparison video up.

I decided to avoid all reviews and haven't really read anything about the game, I want everything to be a complete surprise. Warm up those spoiler tags you bastards. :arghfist:

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Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Raskolnikov posted:

Dude sounds jealous. :)

"Uh, I was going to do that. Honest."

No, he sounds like a guy that's glad his crowning achievement franchise is still alive and relevant.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Metanaut posted:

Warm up those spoiler tags you bastards. :arghfist:

Oh God. This thread for the next week is going to make internal NSA documents look revealing.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Joystiq Review posted:

Human Revolution is an imperfect, complex and ambitious reminder of what a game can be when it's unafraid.

You AAA Titles may have copper wiring to reroute your fear of ambition, but Deus Ex has got nerves of steel. :frogc00l:

ufarn
May 30, 2009

1stGear posted:

Oh God. This thread for the next week is going to make internal NSA documents look revealing.
Maybe we should have a separate spoiler thread? The activity here is already insane, and the game hasn't even launched.

TShields
Mar 30, 2007

We can rule them like gods! ...Angry gods.

The Hebug posted:

I thought I wouldn't care about getting release day shipping so I preordered from Newegg. Now I wish I hadn't since I could preload from Steam and activate it if they would just give me the code. :(

Also does anybody who doesn't play TF2 but preordered from Steam want to hook me up with those sweet "I didn't ask for this" sunglasses?

I would if I could figure out how to transfer them..

Edit: From the preview/review videos, it looks like it's one of those games where your gun can look minuscule compared to the set dressing if you get close enough to it- like, if you keep walking towards a wall, your gun looks the same size as it always has, but a rung on a ladder will take up 90% of the rest of the screen. Is that really the case?

OSheaman
May 27, 2004

Heavy Fucking Metal
Fun Shoe
I keep seeing posts in here that seem to indicate Deus Ex isn't a AAA title. This is definitely a AAA title.

The Hebug
May 24, 2004
I am a bug...

TShields posted:

I would if I could figure out how to transfer them..

I don't know if they're tradeable, but if they are, you would need to have TF2 installed to access your inventory.

fake edit: actually apparently there is some sort of steam trading beta feature. Either way, both ways basically just require knowing the other person's steam account/community/whatever.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6748-ETSG-5417

Tecman
Sep 11, 2003

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Pillbug
'Deus Ex: Human Revolution' Developer Interview With Producer David Anfossi
( http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/8/21/interviews/82947/ )

In Deus Ex: Human Revolution you play Adam Jensen, a security specialist, handpicked to oversee the defense of one of America's most experimental biotechnology firms. But when a black ops team breaks in and kills the scientists you were hired to protect, everything you thought you knew about your job changes.

WP: Who has the honor to speak with us? State your name, rank and occupation!
I'm David Anfossi, and I'm a producer on Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

WP: We're finally sitting down with the final build of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. How does it feel to finally be done?
DA:
(laughs) It's like the baby blues because we worked on that for four years. We achieved something great, I think, because it's very difficult to produce a Deus Ex kind of game. It's very complex, so it was a true challenge. At the beginning, we were not sure, but now that it's done and we are very happy, and we enjoy a vacation.

WP: How imposing was it to design a new game in the shadow of the original Deus Ex? Even though Deus Ex is so many years old, many gamers hold it up in extremely high regard. Did you feel like you had a clean slate to start with, or were there a lot of expectations that you felt you had to meet?
DA:
In fact, we faced a lot of different challenges. We are playing the two games or we have to be in the studio to be the lead team, build a new technology, and revive the Deus Ex franchise. It was a lot of pressure, but I'm very happy because we have a very strong team of talented people. I was more confident than at the beginning. We just did our own work. We played those two games, we analyzed them before we even started the concept, and we extracted what we thought was essential for a Deus Ex game. We based our concept on that. In the end, the final result is very close to our vision at the beginning. It's a success for us.

WP: We've talked about the game a lot. We've played through the preview build, so we know what goes into the gameplay and the stealth aspects and the combat aspects. You mentioned that you had to build a new technology. Tell us a little bit about what goes into building a game engine. Did you use anything off the shelf? Did you build Deus Ex: Human Revolution from the ground up? How did you build the world?
DA:
We used an in-house engine from Crystal [Dynamics] — the Tomb Raider engine, in fact, because it was easy for us to prototype with this engine in the beginning. In four years, a lot of things changed. Because we have a lot of open space, we had to completely rebuild the lighting system. It's just an example. We changed a lot of things. We have a Social mechanic source so we had to create it. For this game, if I am correct, we created more than 600 new features to support the different play styles.

If you take every level, you want to support Stealth, Combat, Social and Hacking, which is a very big challenge. We started by building different maps to test our mechanics together, and then we think. In the end, we close the preproduction with a vertical slice, which is a part of the game. It's not final, but it's close to being final. That's the first time you have all the mechanics together. At this point, you know if you've succeeded or not and what you have to do to improve the experience. We did that on a small map, put that together, and we just bring them that to improve the mechanics and make sure that it is smooth and that the player will be pleased with the mechanics.

WP: What about building Deus Ex: Human Revolution as a very in-depth single-player experience? Today, it seems that everyone is pushing toward multiplayer. How difficult was it to convince your bosses and parent company that you're just going to do a single-player game and not touch any multiplayer?
DA:
You're right. There is a trend for multiplayer, and all publishers want multiplayer. What we did was be in the studio, to be the lead team, revive the Deus Ex franchise and everything, I think it was enough for us. It took us four years, so we just convinced the publisher that if we had to split the energy of the team on two different modes, we would lose some quality. We proved that during the conceptual phase, and they just supported us. So there was no problem on that side. They actually understood that we had to deliver a great game, and we just had to focus on the single-player.

WP: Going back to the technology and the engine a little bit, you targeted three different platforms — the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. In doing that, did you have a lead platform and then port it over? Did you develop them simultaneously? How much more challenging is it to develop on the PC and consoles versus just the console or just the PC?
DA:
I used to develop on the lead platform for different games before, but for this one, we developed all platforms in parallel. It was very important for us because you have so much content that if you decide to port your content to another platform, you will lose a lot of time and you will have to make some compromises. By doing them in parallel, you create the same content for all platforms at the same time so you can play the different platforms at the same time, and that's very important for the playtesting, for people using the keyboard as well as controllers. That was our strategy.

There were some compromises about the disc space. For example, we have more SKUs on the X360 because we are limited to just one language per disc, compared to the Blu-ray, where we can put more stuff. For the PC version, we upgraded the textures. That's the only difference. Other than that, the experience is the same.

WP: What about controls? A lot of PC gamers complain that in multiplatform titles, they're forced to use an Xbox controller on the PC. Will you be able to use the mouse and keyboard on the PC version of Deus Ex?
DA:
No, no, no! We fought the game designer specifically on that to make sure that everything is smooth and pretty and fits with the current standard. We worked specifically on that to make sure that everything is fine, and we did a lot of playtests on the console and PC, so we could tweak the controls separately. Even between the PS3 and X360, we did specific tweaks because you don't have the same sensitivity between the sticks, so we had to tweak that to make sure that it was smooth as well. We tweaked every control.

WP: On the PC side of things, with the original Deus Ex, modders changed it and upgraded it. In fact, there's a new hack out that redoes all the graphics in high resolution for a current PC. Have you and your team given any thought to releasing any sort of mod tools to supporting that community on the PC with DE: Human Revolution?
DA:
It was not in the plan, sorry. Maybe things have changed since I'm on vacation now, and the technology director will inform me otherwise, but I don't think so.

WP: Looking back through the development process and the game, is there any moment that stood out as an "a-ha!" moment? When did you know that you had something that was a top-tier game versus just another average game?
DA:
To be honest, it took us more than two years to be more confident. As I mentioned, we did the vertical slice two times because the first time, it was not there for different reasons. Given that, we came back to our desks and worked again to finally find the Deus Ex that we see. But it took us two years, so in 2009, we were sure that we had a Deus Ex game, and we just extrapolated that through the entire game. But yeah, two years.

The same thing for Adam Jensen. It was very important for us to give him different iterations and not just leave it as some concept art of Adam Jensen. We had to challenge ourselves and make sure that it was perfect so it also took us two years to find the "right" Adam Jensen.

WP: Even though most of the game is played from the first-person view, where you don't really see Adam Jensen, was getting the perfect look for the character that important? Do you think it makes that big of a difference?
DA:
Yes. It's not just the point of the visual, but also the credibility of the character. In the universe we created, there's not just Adam Jensen. We can talk about [Yelena] Federova, who is very appealing, [Lawrence] Barrett, [Jaron] Namir — different story characters and we created credible backgrounds for them. If you play the game, you can understand their actions. It's not black-and-white, you know. Even if you don't agree with them, you can understand them. We build every story character like that. Visually, but they also have a very strong background.

WP: If you had to sum it up in two to three sentences, what really makes Deus Ex: Human Revolution a game that's worth playing?
DA:
It's easy, in fact, because you play as you want to play the game. It was our mandate because it could be complex due to all the different gameplay mechanics, but in the end, you play it as you want to play it.

WP: Is there anything that we haven't talked about that you wanted to add?
DA:
We are very happy with the results because it fits perfectly with the ambition that we had in the beginning. We are very happy that the final experience is right, so now we are just eager to hear from the reception from the gamers.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Tecman posted:

The standout item in the DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION is Adam Jensen’s coat—a futuristic interpretation of a trench coat. This slick trench, adorned with signature vented holes, and structured sleeves, is inspired by DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION’s cyber-renaissance art direction. Just remember that you’re not actually augmented before leaving on your adventures.



That trench actually doesn't look that bad. You'd have to be pretty slim to pull it off though (i.e. 95% of video gamers excluded).

Poppleganger
Jul 29, 2004
AR$E
The coolest thing about the coat in the game is the floral pattern.

Rocketeer Korolev
Dec 22, 2008

Jealous? No? Go frak yourself, Smoothskin...

Fuzz posted:

So did Warren Specter have anything to do with this game?

No, he was busy with Epic Mickey during this game's development, but he did give his approval!

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

About 12 hours to go. :D

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe
Made this for the photoshop thread, but figured you guys might get a kick out of it. For my first time photoshopping, I think it turned out all right.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Eej posted:

That trench actually doesn't look that bad. You'd have to be pretty slim to pull it off though (i.e. 95% of video gamers excluded).

Extremely tempting. Wonder how much it will be. I'm tall and slim, and my old trenchcoat is starting to wear and tear.

oversteps
Sep 11, 2001

I don't want to be that guy in every new game thread that talks about preorders, but can anybody that preorders from GameStop often quell these fears of mine?

Jarate posted:

GameStop charged me days ago (still listed as "PENDING" on my bank statement) but I'd love to see the order be shipped sometime soon. I'll cry if I don't get it tomorrow, considering I spent almost $90 on this (augmented + overnight shipping).

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Is there a reason why the PC version of the Augmented Edition cannot be selected on amazon?

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100

unpurposed posted:

Made this for the photoshop thread, but figured you guys might get a kick out of it. For my first time photoshopping, I think it turned out all right.


"I asked for you to get out."

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things

I said come in! posted:

About 12 hours to go. :D

My steam is stuck at showing 13 hours for the past 2 hours. Am I going to be playing this before midnight on the west coast?

jcp982
Apr 5, 2011
Money quote from Joystiq:

"There is perhaps no greater proof that this is a role-playing game, however, than the ability to conclude just about every conversation by punching your quest giver into an unconscious rag doll."

UselessLurker
Apr 28, 2008

jcp982 posted:

Money quote from Joystiq:

"There is perhaps no greater proof that this is a role-playing game, however, than the ability to conclude just about every conversation by punching your quest giver into an unconscious rag doll."

This is how I will conclude every quest. Every. Single. One.

Augustus Woop-Woop
Dec 14, 2003
wang
So I may be headed to the LA release party tonight. Is there anything I need to know?

Neosuki
Jul 14, 2004

Poppleganger posted:

The coolest thing about the coat in the game is the floral pattern.

THIS.

That coat doesn't look very Jensen to me. :(

UselessLurker posted:

This is how I will conclude every quest. Every. Single. One.

Not dear old Mrs. Reed! :ohdear:

Neosuki fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Aug 22, 2011

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

Well Ive got my pc version preloaded and its getting close to release but I wont be home for another week and a half so time to go dark on this game/thread. Good bye and enjoy the game!

Though I do have to wait to enjoy this...

What a shame.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
If you're going to the release party, you have to show up at the door carrying an American flag. Be sure to show your flag to everyone before abandoning it in a restroom.

So does the "official" trenchcoat that's for sale have the floral pattern or not?

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Oh wow. I just started a new game because I wanted to see if you could do the hardest difficulty with the item highlights on and whatnot. So I'm in Meagan's office:

If you look around the office there are some stuff you can use. There is a little police car toy. Click it.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
Amazon is telling me my 3 month old preorder order isn't going to be here until Aug 29-31st.

You think I'll get the game on time or do you think that's accurate and that I should call and ask them what their deal is?

Tecman
Sep 11, 2003

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Pillbug
So there's a new trailer, the "Launch Trailer".

...I refuse to post it because it's a titanic piece of spoiler-material. I'll only tell you that so far, I've seen it posted on GameInformer if you want to seek it out.

Holy poo poo. Just holy poo poo at some scenes. Seriously, only view it if you don't give a poo poo about the spoilers (two other boss-fight scenes and one VERY disturbing piece of amazing what-the-gently caress footage)

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

GreatGreen posted:

Amazon is telling me my 3 month old preorder order isn't going to be here until Aug 29-31st.

You think I'll get the game on time or do you think that's accurate and that I should call and ask them what their deal is?

Did you select $1 release date delivery or do you have Amazon Prime?

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If you're going to the release party, you have to show up at the door carrying an American flag. Be sure to show your flag to everyone before abandoning it in a restroom.

So does the "official" trenchcoat that's for sale have the floral pattern or not?

not by the look of it, which might mean its not worth it.

Needs the floral pattern.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

AngryBooch posted:

Did you select $1 release date delivery or do you have Amazon Prime?

If it's $1 I don't see why I wouldn't have. I'll check.

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe

Coughing Hobo posted:

"I asked for you to get out."

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

Tecman posted:

So there's a new trailer, the "Launch Trailer".

...I refuse to post it because it's a titanic piece of spoiler-material. I'll only tell you that so far, I've seen it posted on GameInformer if you want to seek it out.

Holy poo poo. Just holy poo poo at some scenes. Seriously, only view it if you don't give a poo poo about the spoilers (two other boss-fight scenes and one VERY disturbing piece of amazing what-the-gently caress footage)

Uh, could you just give a link? I don't even know where the hell to find it on gameinformer.com. There isn't a single mention of Deus Ex on the main page.

Edit: I think this is it - http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/34505/bigger It's low-res though :(

Vertigus fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Aug 22, 2011

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Tecman posted:

So there's a new trailer, the "Launch Trailer".

...I refuse to post it because it's a titanic piece of spoiler-material. I'll only tell you that so far, I've seen it posted on GameInformer if you want to seek it out.

Holy poo poo. Just holy poo poo at some scenes. Seriously, only view it if you don't give a poo poo about the spoilers (two other boss-fight scenes and one VERY disturbing piece of amazing what-the-gently caress footage)

Jesues gently caress! That launch trailer literally spoiled the ending more or less. What were they thinking! :argh:

oversteps
Sep 11, 2001

Jarate posted:

GameStop charged me days ago (still listed as "PENDING" on my bank statement) but I'd love to see the order be shipped sometime soon. I'll cry if I don't get it tomorrow, considering I spent almost $90 on this (augmented + overnight shipping).
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but can anyone lend an anecdote? If I may not get it tomorrow, I'd like to cancel it while I can so I can just walk into any store at 9 AM and grab the regular edition.

edit:

http://community.eidosmontreal.com/ :) A podcast and everything. Our favorite studio has a community site!

oversteps fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Aug 22, 2011

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Dr.Oblivious posted:

Jesues gently caress! That launch trailer literally spoiled the ending more or less. What were they thinking! :argh:

What is it?! Is JC the final boss?! Does Adam inevitably die?! IS THERE A BOMB?!

Isko
May 20, 2008

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Oh wow. I just started a new game because I wanted to see if you could do the hardest difficulty with the item highlights on and whatnot. So I'm in Meagan's office:

If you look around the office there are some stuff you can use. There is a little police car toy. Click it.

There is more than just that in the room.

TShields
Mar 30, 2007

We can rule them like gods! ...Angry gods.

Dr.Oblivious posted:

Jesues gently caress! That launch trailer literally spoiled the ending more or less. What were they thinking! :argh:

Going into that video blind.. I have no idea what was spoiled. I just wanted to see the pretty pictures. And with my goldfish-like memory, I'll probably forget everything I've seen by the time I start playing the game.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
hooookay, time to step out of the thread looks like.

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Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

Dr.Oblivious posted:

Jesues gently caress! That launch trailer literally spoiled the ending more or less. What were they thinking! :argh:

I'm not really sure what you saw in that. It showed a lot of cool scenes but nothing that seemed like an "ending".

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