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Kegslayer posted:Ending + Deus Ex Spoilers I really wish they would have just said "gently caress it, we're making our own game," and used DX as just inspiration. It was a great game, but it's not like the plot was so good it needed to be preserved or whatever. Instead we get 4 endings that all amount to the same thing aside from what little clip and voiceover you get to sit through.
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Is the "Punch through walls" augment worth it? I'm kinda skeptical if there are enough of the special spots you can punch through to justify it but I really want to punch through walls.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:21
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General Emergency posted:Is the "Punch through walls" augment worth it? I'm kinda skeptical if there are enough of the special spots you can punch through to justify it but I really want to punch through walls. It's definitely worth it, there's AT LEAST one Praxis Kit you can't get if you don't have it, and it opens up a lot of valuable shortcuts.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:25
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General Emergency posted:Is the "Punch through walls" augment worth it? I'm kinda skeptical if there are enough of the special spots you can punch through to justify it but I really want to punch through walls. There are lots of walls to punch through and there is the bonus factor of a guy being on the other side who is all of a sudden like "woah the gently caress this wall exploded, I'm dead."
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Aug 26, 2011 07:26
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General Emergency posted:Is the "Punch through walls" augment worth it? I'm kinda skeptical if there are enough of the special spots you can punch through to justify it but I really want to punch through walls. It is so, so worth it. Minor spoiler: It pays for itself, actually.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:26
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SlayVus posted:You may or may not want to use the one I do. Is there any way to get that without paying a subscription fee?
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Aug 26, 2011 07:26
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Harold Ramis Drugs posted:Is there any way to get that without paying a subscription fee? People pay for video game cheats? That is some 1995 phone number in the back of the manual poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:29
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Pharmaskittle posted:I really wish they would have just said "gently caress it, we're making our own game," and used DX as just inspiration. It was a great game, but it's not like the plot was so good it needed to be preserved or whatever. Instead we get 4 endings that all amount to the same thing aside from what little clip and voiceover you get to sit through. Yeah the story of this game is really... uhm... like I appreciate the faithfulness to the original, but they didn't really need to replicate every story point, beat for beat. A third of the way through I was going, well I'm going to have to save the chopper pilot at some point aren't I. And lo and behold. Also hacking and reading every email is a mistake, it just spoils every story twist 2 or 3 hours ahead of time, and then Jensen just acts all surprised like he didn't read them in the first place.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:29
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FYI thread if you can't get rid of the tesselation bug (triangles on textures) by turning it off, make sure you go into the ATI control panel and verify that tesselation isn't forced on by the drivers. Don't loving delete the game and have to reinstall like I just did before you figure that out.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:29
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jerkalien posted:
This was a while ago, but I find stealthing isn't that hard if you go Metal Gear style and wait for a guard to turn around then just go go go. Also when they walk up and down corrdiors and do that half turn to look back, they don't usually turn all the way around, so you can actually go to their side, as long as you stay down you make no noise. Getting through the police station without proper access is really great fun like this.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:30
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How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:31
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I have a question: I've just started playing and am at the bit where the world first opens up and you get to leave the Sarif Building. I started doing the Police Station bit but after the intro mission my inventory is basically full so I left to find somewhere to stash some stuff. Do I have an apartment or something in this game? I don't want to do missions and have to ignore loads of cool stuff because I can't carry anything else, but I also don't want to drop what I have. Right now I'm just wandering around trying to find something like the house in Fallout I guess.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:32
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^^^I dunno if you can leave stuff in your apartment (you do have one, it's called Chiron or something), but there's a gas station with an arms dealer inside near Sarif Industries, and you can sell your extra poo poo to him. If you want to keep all the stuff you have, I guess just buy inventory augs and learn to be more selective, because you won't have access to a safe house for super long due to relatively frequent hub changes.GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. There's a vent on the right. Use it either to play hide and seek and pick them off, or to slip around them and get in the elevator. Pharmaskittle fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Aug 26, 2011 |
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Aug 26, 2011 07:33
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I can ghost levels easily on normal without any stealth augs at all by going all hurrghrgrhgrh Metal Gear? during missions. Then when I decide it's time for the poo poo to hit the fan and I want to invoke terror in my enemies I just run out of cover shotgun blazing away while I throw grenades at everything. Stealth is probably more fun without any augs since you really have to be a good creeper.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:34
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RomaVictor posted:Thanks for reading. I needed to get that out. Feels good to write it all down and make a confession like this. You're not bad at videogames. Some games don't age well, and whether one has or not can be quite subjective in borderline cases. For example I love System Shock 2. Love it to pieces. But I can't play it; I load the thing up and it just feels clunky. Even the good games have their flaws, and when we look back with the benefit of nostalgia we tend to minimize those. Good games become better in our minds and bad ones become worse. Deus Ex had some great ideas for its time, and DXHR definitely takes those ideas (more freedom in progression through levels, lots of little world-building things that are left to be discovered rather than shoved in your face, support for different styles of play) and runs with them. But eleven years from now I'm sure we'll be looking back at HR and noticing all sorts of things that we currently just don't know any better.
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Aug 26, 2011 07:39
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J Bjelke-Postersen posted:
Duesssssssssssssss Ex(plode)?
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Pharmaskittle posted:^^^I dunno if you can leave stuff in your apartment (you do have one, it's called Chiron or something), but there's a gas station with an arms dealer inside near Sarif Industries, and you can sell your extra poo poo to him. If you want to keep all the stuff you have, I guess just buy inventory augs and learn to be more selective, because you won't have access to a safe house for super long due to relatively frequent hub changes. Buuuuuuttt I'm a hoarder.  Seriously, I hate dropping stuff in games. I'm always like, "I might need this just down the road. Oh well, thanks anyway. 
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J Bjelke-Postersen posted:I can ghost levels easily on normal without any stealth augs at all by going all hurrghrgrhgrh Metal Gear? during missions. Then when I decide it's time for the poo poo to hit the fan and I want to invoke terror in my enemies I just run out of cover shotgun blazing away while I throw grenades at everything. The cloak aug actually made me worse at stealth, though it's my own fault, because I started taking bigger risks and not taking my time/thinking things through. I had to train myself to be really judicious with my use of cloak.
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So I've just reached China and I think I figured out the whole conspiracy thing about two hours into the game. Would anyone mind telling me if I'm hot or cold for the following? Megan isn't dead. I'm somehow her guinea pig for her no-rejection experiment, which explains why I don't need neuropozyne. Versalife makes neuropozyne and is evil because I played the first game. Versalife wants everyone addicted to neuropozyne, so they were the ones who sent the hit squad to make sure Megan's thing didn't work. So, hot or cold?
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Pharmaskittle posted:I really wish they would have just said "gently caress it, we're making our own game," and used DX as just inspiration. It was a great game, but it's not like the plot was so good it needed to be preserved or whatever. Instead we get 4 endings that all amount to the same thing aside from what little clip and voiceover you get to sit through. I'd actually be happy if they remade Deus Ex on the same engine and incorporated their own elements though I don't think there was anyway they could have completely ignored where Deus Ex started without the fans whinging.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. I had just put a point into Cloak so I popped it and charged the elevator while devouring my stock of candy bars. Other people use guns/explosives to distract them or let loose with AoE weapons/grenades. J Bjelke-Postersen posted:Stealth is probably more fun without any augs since you really have to be a good creeper. I agree and didn't get cloak until quite a while into the game. Still it has its uses when things go south or I want to make sure a guy doesn't spot me before I CQC him, thus ruining my ghost. The takedowns also just plain look more awesome when cloaked, with the downside of needing 2 batteries to use (since cloak starts eating one even if just flicked on).
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Aug 26, 2011 07:44
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I have spent a disproportionate amount of time cold-cocking hobos with differing views on augmentation. I loving love this game.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. I had a rocket launcher, and a single rocket. They sat around discussing things in a tight formation for a few seconds before coming after me. I think you can fill in the blanks (though one survived and still tried to kill me - what a trooper!)
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Coughing Hobo posted:The cloak aug actually made me worse at stealth, though it's my own fault, because I started taking bigger risks and not taking my time/thinking things through. I had to train myself to be really judicious with my use of cloak. Funnily enough I get ghost on missions where I fill security rooms with gunfire/explosions because I have impeccable timing (the room in TYM near the lasers is a good example of a place to be a bad man).
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Kegslayer posted:I'd actually be happy if they remade Deus Ex on the same engine and incorporated their own elements though I don't think there was anyway they could have completely ignored where Deus Ex started without the fans whinging. If this ends up are a reboot of the series, I really hope they remake Deus Ex. It was/is a great game, but there's no way they can work around the limitation of DX1/DX2 and still keep going without this turning into a gigantic trainwreck of "What the gently caress"
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Happydogska posted:So I've just reached China and I think I figured out the whole conspiracy thing about two hours into the game. Would anyone mind telling me if I'm hot or cold for the following? 1. hot, no surprise 2. mmm... I'm going to call that neutral. Hot AND cold 3&4. Maybe? I can't recall who Versalife were in the original as far as conspiracies go. I'm not done with the game but they haven't been called out by name yet. *someone* fits those hunches though.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. Disable the alarm in the room. It drastically reduces the number of guards who come after you. You can also block all the entrances with vending machines and crates.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. I just shot a PEP into them and made a run for it.
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jojoinnit posted:I have a question: I've just started playing and am at the bit where the world first opens up and you get to leave the Sarif Building. I started doing the Police Station bit but after the intro mission my inventory is basically full so I left to find somewhere to stash some stuff. As someone already stated, there is no stash in the game. Your best bet is to abandon your obsessive compulsive tendencies and only pick up stuff you need. That means only picking up ammo for weapons that you use, and only carrying a handful of weapons because of how much inventory space they take up. There's no reason to worry about needing a specific thing later. You won't. Remember, there's multiple ways to deal with everything.
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Dog Toggle Switch posted:I have spent a disproportionate amount of time cold-cocking hobos with differing views on augmentation. Same here. Now I've become obsessed with talking to murderable NPCs and finding the most annoying line so I can keep making these: Adam Jensen is easily offended #4 Adam Jensen is easily offended #5
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Aug 26, 2011 08:01
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The mine templates are an interesting idea but man, I wish you could just use the grenades as mines directly like the good old LAMs. Well, maybe they didn't develop magnetic sticky-grenades with proximity sensors yet in 2027.
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Bruceski posted:You're not bad at videogames. Some games don't age well, and whether one has or not can be quite subjective in borderline cases. For example I love System Shock 2. Love it to pieces. But I can't play it; I load the thing up and it just feels clunky. You have no idea how good you just made me feel. I can't tell you exactly why I was burdened with a feeling of guilt. Perhaps it's because I received DX as a gift and I can't bring myself to play the gift my friend so generously purchased for me. But your explanation is better than anything I could have come up with. Thank you.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. There's a gas grenade to grab somewhere nearby I think, just toss that down there when they're all huddled together. PS gas grenades are really, really helpful in all sorts of situations. My favorite grenade for sure, and I'm not even working for the pacifist achievement.
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Bruceski posted:1. hot, no surprise
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Also, count me as one of those who was trying for the pacifist achievement, but killed people in the tutorial cause they only loving gave you one gun and didn't know it counted.
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GeauxSteve posted:How the gently caress are you supposed to beat the end of the TYM building when the alarm gets sounded and the 20 guards come in and rush you. I crossbow'd some dude in the head while hiding in a vent and ran out to the elevator when they went to investigate their buddies new facial piercing.
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Happydogska posted:Thanks! Versalife was the biotech firm who made the plague. Yes, but in the Deus Ex world nobody is *just* what they're listed as. If in the first game Krispy Kreme were revealed to be an evil arm of the Amish conspiracy, and in DXHR we get the plot revelation that the Amish are behind everything, then technically a guess that Krispy Kreme was the bad guy would be true but unverifiable should the guy reviewing the guess not recall the connection.
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Ever since watching the cutscene of Adam receiving his augmentations, I couldn't shake the feeling that the scene seemed pretty familiar. Finally it hit me, and after a little bit of fumbling, I think I've managed to synchronize it pretty well: http://tubedubber.com/#ZlPJtrfb5jI:S_1PssU1a9U:0:100:0:90:false I also tried to do a version with the Lazarus Project music from Mass Effect 2, but the track is only about half the length of the cutscene, so it didn't work nearly as well.
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So, uh, how exactly do you find the sewers for the Talion A.D. sidequest, seeing as the game glitches and doesn't give you credit for reading the dead soldier's pocket secretary?
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