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poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
In my run I think the only augs I didn't get were Dermal Plating, the leg enhancements and Icarus. Everything else was maxed.

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wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro

SynthOrange posted:

What are the requirements for Ghost anyway? I keep getting 'Getting Things Done' and uh, another one pretty regularly, but dont see ghost unless it's a stupidly short section.
You're never detected by hostiles.

Finger
Sep 10, 2001

E N O U G H !

SynthOrange posted:

What are the requirements for Ghost anyway? I keep getting 'Getting Things Done' and uh, another one pretty regularly, but dont see ghost unless it's a stupidly short section.
Going "Hostile" on your radar means you blew it. Unfortunately, you can only guess at when the game's going to stop checking, call an objective "complete", and just give you the XP for it. You can often make some good guesses, though.

I'm kind of annoyed about Pacifist. I did a non-lethal playthrough and I think that a dude I punched and knocked into electrified water must have been considered a lethal blow. All I could do was go through the rest of the game and hope I got it, and nope - got the Legend achievement, and no Pacifist.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe

wolffenstein posted:

You're never detected by hostiles.

Or rather, they don't know if they saw you. I'm fairly certain I've gotten Ghost on a couple segments where I got seen and the guard made a "is someone there?" response.

Finger posted:

I'm kind of annoyed about Pacifist. I did a non-lethal playthrough and I think that a dude I punched and knocked into electrified water must have been considered a lethal blow. All I could do was go through the rest of the game and hope I got it, and nope - got the Legend achievement, and no Pacifist.

Glad to know I didn't reload five times in those sewers for nothing.

boner meter
Apr 27, 2006
I AM A SMUG ASSHOLE WHO BELIEVES IN RACIST PROPAGANDA. I DESERVE ONLY RIDICULE.
Ok, update on my HUD problem: entering and then exiting the Police station made the mission indicators and the toolbar reappear, but not the ammo counter, the health bar or the radar. Hugely irritating.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Joda posted:

Or rather, they don't know if they saw you. I'm fairly certain I've gotten Ghost on a couple segments where I got seen and the guard made a "is someone there?" response.

Guards are such dicks to each other about this.

"Looking for that ghost again? Hur, hur..."

Actually, come to think of it all of the NPC barks are wonderful, especially the Ogre guys. They just sound so...enthusiastic.

"OOOORAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :black101:"

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

WMain00 posted:

Oddly, I found the second boss really really easy:

Stupid bitch runs at you, so Typhoon. Woops, that gotta hurt. She then runs away and stealths, but oh look my infravision works. So I just watch and wait then BLAM Typhoon again. Dead and done in 2 minutes. Didn't even break sweat.

drat so infra-vision allows to see the invisible dudes?, and I never took it "see through walls, huh? but I got the radar so what's the point"
I used EMP grenades, cause those briefly paralyze most augmented dudes and keep the invisibility abusers out of cloak for some time after that.

Anyone else is having game freeze while in menus? Gameplay works fine, but going to save menu make is become "not responding" and loop sound 1 out of 3 times so I mostly use quick save

Pyromancer fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Aug 30, 2011

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

SynthOrange posted:

What are the requirements for Ghost anyway? I keep getting 'Getting Things Done' and uh, another one pretty regularly, but dont see ghost unless it's a stupidly short section.

Just to elaborate, "Getting Things Done" is something you get for every main objective you complete, even if it's as mundane as "Talk to Sarif". The other one you probably get is "Completionist", which you nab every time you finish an objective for a side quest.

Aries
Jun 6, 2006
Computer says no.
Just started going through again and got the social aug early, and what a difference it made to the police station mission, I just convinced the guy in the lobby to let me in to the morgue, and I was given free reign around the entire station. Some great conversations to be had.

Sputty
Mar 20, 2005

Fereydun posted:

Here's what I want to know:

Where the hell are all the really amazing looking FMVs from the trailers? All the in-game cinematics are fuzzy rear end renders that could be done in the engine.


Even the lines used in trailers sound much better than the ones in-game, like the ones they decided to use in-game were from test takes or something..

FMVs are full motion videos, done with actors. There were never FMVs. They had better rendered stuff for a trailer that they never used in the game. Sarif lines in the trailer were really different and sounded better in a trailer while in the game they used a more annoying Sarif on purpose. The guy who did Sarif pulled off condescending really well.

For takedowns I really wish they used 60% energy or whatever so that they wouldn't drain an entire battery. Either that or make candy bars easier to get in large numbers.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


Yeah, the battery thing is annoying. In my first game I rarely ever had above 1 bar and even if I did I'd rarely use it for anything but knocking out fools. I'd cloak for a few seconds at a time so I wouldn't ever use a full bar, saving them for later.

It'd be nice if the final upgrade for batteries let you charge empty ones. Maybe have the duration be a few minutes of non combat or something.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe
Here are the bonuses I've noticed:

Completionist/Getting Things Done is the base value you get for completing an objective.
Ghost is for not alarming any hostile to your presence (i.e. they can spot you, but as long as they're just searching and not aware it's you you're fine)
Smooth is for no alarms being activated (this means no guards activating alarm panels, no failed hacks in areas that have alarm systems, no being discovered by/shooting cameras)

EDIT: vvvvv oh. Sorry about that then

Joda fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Aug 30, 2011

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
I'm pretty sure Ghost and Smooth Operator are a flat 500 and 250, respectively.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Give me crafting.

Breakdown 1 jar of Cyberboost into 4 cyberboost bars.

Tape two shotguns together.

Tape a mine to my knuckles.

lohli
Jun 30, 2008

Finger posted:

I'm kind of annoyed about Pacifist. I did a non-lethal playthrough and I think that a dude I punched and knocked into electrified water must have been considered a lethal blow. All I could do was go through the rest of the game and hope I got it, and nope - got the Legend achievement, and no Pacifist.

I did this too, tranq a guy, and then as he crumples I sat there on the edge of my seat waiting to see if he'd fall forwards or backwards into the electrified water, he fell into the water and then a buddy of his comes running up to him, I performed a non-lethal takedown, and then he fell into the water too :suicide:

Tecman
Sep 11, 2003

Loading the Universe...
Please Wait.

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Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
A problem with many stealth/shooter hybrids is that they usually favor the shooter build because of boss fights. I've just hit the first boss fight with my stealth/hacker build and am having a terrible time.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Yeah, first time I went in there, playing on GIVE ME DEUS EX. And it was terrible. I ran around stunning him with the taser, throwing barrels at him like donkey kong, tring to rig up mines when I could. Blugh.

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



After playing the leak and using AUDs all the time I was getting really sad I couldn't open level 5 doors and stuff early on, but then I remembered that stuff about doors and walls having health attached to them. After the first boss I had alot of frag grenades so this was no problem.

I used a shotgun with double blast to take out a punchable wall with a dude on the other side, the shot knocked down the wall AND killed the guy (which was awesome), then his friends ran over and were like 'What the hell happened?!'

Up to Hengsha now, and the first thing I've noticed is the asian npc's have those weird plastic wrap looking faces like they did in DX 1. Not sure if this is intentional or not, but it made me laugh.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




Baron Bifford posted:

A problem with many stealth/shooter hybrids is that they usually favor the shooter build because of boss fights. I've just hit the first boss fight with my stealth/hacker build and am having a terrible time.

I don't actually think the first boss fight is that much of a problem because of that. It sucks simply because it's unexpected and incredibly out of place, but you should be able to kill him without too much of a problem. I basically stunned him with grenades and then shot him in the face with an upgraded pistol.

I've not got much further so I don't know if the bosses get much worst but they aren't annoying because of your build. They're just crappy in general.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
All they needed were some vents and consoles to hack and some turrets that shoot at you connected to a computer somewhere to make these fights more viable.

lohli
Jun 30, 2008

Baron Bifford posted:

A problem with many stealth/shooter hybrids is that they usually favor the shooter build because of boss fights. I've just hit the first boss fight with my stealth/hacker build and am having a terrible time.

Use the mine templates you can find in that area and combine them with grenades to create mines, personally I preferred EMP mines for that fight, but frags work nicely too.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
My main issue with the boss fights is that they instantly throw you into an action sequence with almost zero time to think about the situation, making them feel dependent on twitch skills. I don't expect to be in control of every single situation, but nonetheless...starting a fight with an extremely powerful, heavily armed force of nature that's hostile by default and about ten feet in front of you felt stunningly unfair.

:(

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Plus what the gently caress Jensen. Run away when you see a giant guy walking up to you.

Still, with all the blows and bullets to his head, I guess I can accept that he's a little :downs: now.

Tecman
Sep 11, 2003

Loading the Universe...
Please Wait.

Pillbug

SynthOrange posted:

Plus what the gently caress Jensen. Run away when you see a giant guy walking up to you.

Still, with all the blows and bullets to his head, I guess I can accept that he's a little :downs: now.
Can you imagine a cybernetics company offering a variety of pheromones for their CASIE aug? Not just stuff for subtle speech manipulation, but also more straight-forward stuff like "come here and gently caress me like an animal" and "piss and poo poo your pants, for I am in your presence".

And I just gotta mention your avatar, man. :) "I never arfed for this" :3:

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Wait, hat? AUD's are a pre-order bonus? I buy them in the shops. I didn't even order the special edition or anything.

I originally planned to come in here to shout at you all for not telling me I could throw bodies around but now I just feel like I'm cheating with my AUD shenanigans.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 23 days!

Finger posted:


I'm kind of annoyed about Pacifist. I did a non-lethal playthrough and I think that a dude I punched and knocked into electrified water must have been considered a lethal blow. All I could do was go through the rest of the game and hope I got it, and nope - got the Legend achievement, and no Pacifist.

Depressing, because I just did this exact things, very early in the game but not early enough to restart. Guess I'll break out some guns.

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Lasher posted:

Wait, hat? AUD's are a pre-order bonus? I buy them in the shops. I didn't even order the special edition or anything.

I originally planned to come in here to shout at you all for not telling me I could throw bodies around but now I just feel like I'm cheating with my AUD shenanigans.

Well, I could buy them in Detroit in the leak, but haven't seen any yet.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Tecman posted:

And I just gotta mention your avatar, man. :) "I never arfed for this" :3:

Me and a few friends were throwing around stupid dogmentation jokes pre-release. Then we all freaked out when the jokes were in the game. Also that little chihuahua may not have asked for it, but he's so freaking happy about it. :3:

japii
Mar 25, 2003

japii like nivek.
In there anyway to retry a side mission? I was doing the cloak and dagger one and there was a part where I was supposed to knock out this gang banger in an apartment building and he ended up dying and the chick I got the mission from was gone and the objective just disappeared.

Unfortunately I didn't save right before that and it didn't look like there was any way to redo it. I completed all the other objectives though. It was just that last one that I messed up.

GlazedMcGuffin
Jan 26, 2004
Yeah, got the Pacifist achievement! After (end of game spoilers)seriously this will spoil the ending sinking them all in a watery massacre at the bottom of the ocean.

You got issues, Deus Ex. :colbert:

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

japii posted:

In there anyway to retry a side mission? I was doing the cloak and dagger one and there was a part where I was supposed to knock out this gang banger in an apartment building and he ended up dying and the chick I got the mission from was gone and the objective just disappeared.

Unfortunately I didn't save right before that and it didn't look like there was any way to redo it. I completed all the other objectives though. It was just that last one that I messed up.

The game keeps the last two autosaves, and periodically autosaves as you move through parts of the city. You should have an autosave from when you entered the apartment block, unless you wandered a lot after that and overwrote them.

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

TheMostFrench posted:

Well, I could buy them in Detroit in the leak, but haven't seen any yet.

The leak pretty much had all the preorder stuff included. You also started with the double barrel shotgun and the silenced sniper rifle.

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.
This might have been pointed out, but in Hengsha island a little later on at the port, the airliners flying overhead are Lebedev's 747. Holy poo poo, this game.

Chakron
Mar 11, 2009

Red Crown posted:

This might have been pointed out, but in Hengsha island a little later on at the port, the airliners flying overhead are Lebedev's 747. Holy poo poo, this game.

Whaaaaat? Mind blown.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

Aries posted:

Just started going through again and got the social aug early, and what a difference it made to the police station mission, I just convinced the guy in the lobby to let me in to the morgue, and I was given free reign around the entire station. Some great conversations to be had.

You can do this easily without the social aug. You just have to be smart and pick the answers he wants to hear.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Killing people in the prologue counts against Pacifist, right?

acidreflux
Oct 11, 2010

Red Crown posted:

This might have been pointed out, but in Hengsha island a little later on at the port, the airliners flying overhead are Lebedev's 747. Holy poo poo, this game.

gently caress. That's great.

Cardboard Box
Jul 14, 2009

FateoMcSkippy posted:

Killing people in the prologue counts against Pacifist, right?

Right. Just try to sneak past them.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

But the tutorial told me to shoot at them! I was just following orders! :qq:

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