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Mordiceius posted:I'm at the Barett boss fight. Do I have to kill him or can I just tranq him to death? You can tranq/stun-gun him to death, but bullets/explosions are arguably faster at killing him. He dies either way.
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You can literally stun-lock him from around a corner if you have enough ammo.
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Aug 31, 2011 23:53
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Holy Calamity! posted:You can literally stun-lock him from around a corner if you have enough ammo. Yeah I started doing that but I didn't know if that would be effective enough. If I just blow him away, will that ruin my pacifist cheeb?
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Aug 31, 2011 23:56
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Ahh, by getting as much XP as humanly possible before meeting him, I managed to get 2 Praxis Points upon meeting Zeke Sanders, and I can confirm you do indeed get a Casie Augmentation Interface for his social boss battle. Nice. of course, I screwed it up as soon as I got it, somehow choosing exactly the wrong responses causing him to get the hostage killed.
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Mordiceius posted:Yeah I started doing that but I didn't know if that would be effective enough. So, nope. Murder away!
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Aug 31, 2011 23:57
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Speedball posted:Ahh, by getting as much XP as humanly possible before meeting him, I managed to get 2 Praxis Points upon meeting Zeke Sanders, and I can confirm you do indeed get a Casie Augmentation Interface for his social boss battle. Nice. Reload and get the enhanced reflexes aug and take down both him and the hostage.
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Aug 31, 2011 23:59
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thetrin posted:When you look at a door, there's a little tooltip that says how flimsy it is. It's right in front of you. It will not be in front of you unless the door is unlocked, basically defeating the purpose. Anyway, that doesn't mean locked doors can not be broken. Un-upgraded revolver takes about 8 shots? Max upgraded revolver takes only two. A single frag/mine work as well. Still, point is you can no read on doors until you can actually interact with them. So unless you save/reload before each door you will need to trial/error which doors can be broken at all, because not ALL doors can be broken.
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Mordiceius posted:Yeah I started doing that but I didn't know if that would be effective enough. Just throw every corrosive/explosive barrel in the room at him. Kill him in less than thirty seconds without firing a single shot!
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Sep 1, 2011 00:00
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Speedball posted:Ahh, by getting as much XP as humanly possible before meeting him, I managed to get 2 Praxis Points upon meeting Zeke Sanders, and I can confirm you do indeed get a Casie Augmentation Interface for his social boss battle. Nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvAe86KyWg
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Sep 1, 2011 00:03
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I really wish the game had more social boss battles. They were consistently the most interesting and best-performed parts of the game, and after the halfway point they sort of just drop off until the end of the game. Kind of disappointing.
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Sep 1, 2011 00:07
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Hahaha, Everdraed you wonderful bastard. Guess who got a mention on the DX Facebook page?
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Sep 1, 2011 00:10
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miscellaneous14 posted:It just reinforces my theory that some other studio was in charge of everything regarding boss fights or something. There's a video on the website talking about the 'making of' the bossfights (column 2, row 3 on the phase 3 of the http://deusex.com/facebook ). The boss fights were designed by GRIP Entertainment, http://www.gripent.com/index_files/AboutEN.htm . I see it as a sort of Carmack Effect, these guys probably know the tech in and out and so were in charge but when it comes to game design itself... well, they know what they like.
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Sep 1, 2011 00:14
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Finally got the game today, just finished the first mission and loving it, just a couple of questions: How does the achievement for finishing the game without setting off alarms work? e.g. will I fail it if a guard sees me (is alarmed?), or does an alarm have to actually sound? I'm attempting a no-kills, stealth run on Give Me Deus Ex difficulty on my first playthrough, any advice on what augs I should take first? (there are just so many to chose from!) Does killing people with turrets count against the no kills achievement? What is the best way for me to deal with bosses when I get to them?
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Sep 1, 2011 00:26
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How far am I from finishing the game where I've gone back to Heng Sha and I'm trying to infilitrate the port at Heng Sha? I'm in the warehouse trying to plant the C4
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Sep 1, 2011 00:26
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Pretty drat close, there's only two areas after that, though they're both fairly large.
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Mr Burglar Man posted:There's a video on the website talking about the 'making of' the bossfights (column 2, row 3 on the phase 3 of the http://deusex.com/facebook ). The boss fights were designed by GRIP Entertainment, http://www.gripent.com/index_files/AboutEN.htm . I see it as a sort of Carmack Effect, these guys probably know the tech in and out and so were in charge but when it comes to game design itself... well, they know what they like. Which is great, except Deus Ex is more "Do you fight with guns?" Any build not focused on gunplay suffered horribly in boss-fights and it showed badly, over and over.
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Sep 1, 2011 00:31
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MZ posted:How does the achievement for finishing the game without setting off alarms work? e.g. will I fail it if a guard sees me (is alarmed?), or does an alarm have to actually sound? Alarm has to actually sound. MZ posted:I'm attempting a no-kills, stealth run on Give Me Deus Ex difficulty on my first playthrough, any advice on what augs I should take first? (there are just so many to chose from!) Cloak is great for stealth. You'll also want the one that makes your energy recharge faster. Ignore the ones that increase the amount of energy bars you have available, as only the first one recharges automatically. Two is enough. I also recommend Icarus for any playthrough. MZ posted:Does killing people with turrets count against the no kills achievement? Yes. As does killing people in the tutorial where all they give you is an assault rifle and no takedowns. MZ posted:What is the best way for me to deal with bosses when I get to them? Non-lethally, use the stun gun on all of them until they die. The first boss' weakness is throwing exploding barrels at him. If you have Praxis to spare (which you will), get the Typhoon augment and just use it for bosses. It makes them all a joke.
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Sep 1, 2011 00:34
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I just finished Picus and it seems like everybody spilled their coffee trying to get out. Slobs!
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Sep 1, 2011 00:46
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der bruder posted:I just finished Picus and it seems like everybody spilled their coffee trying to get out. Slobs! So, you're saying that they spilled their drink?
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Sep 1, 2011 00:52
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Does anyone have any advice for this loving chore of a second boss? All the other advice on the internet seems to be 'Use the typhoon  ' but I don't have it, or any other lethal weapons for that matter, but there really doesn't seem to be any way of getting past her other than just blasting with my nonexistant guns. Thanks for deciding to be DOOM halfway through, game!e: In fact, I tried grabbing a revolver from one of the cupboards in the room that they filled with weapons after they realised that they had no loving clue about game design, and shooting her with it doesn't seem to have any effect whatsoever?
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Sep 1, 2011 00:59
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For a game that's all about choice, they sure do like you to play it "the right way." And, of course, none of your choices matter until you end up in a room with four buttons. I was less let down by Dragon Age 2.
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boner meter posted:Does anyone have any advice for this loving chore of a second boss? All the other advice on the internet seems to be 'Use the typhoon The second boss can be a real pain in the rear end, especially if you aren't prepared. I basically shot her with my stun gun and then ran to the nearby weapon cupboards and grabbed the shotgun and all the ammo and just kept running around avoiding her until I got lucky. losonti tokash posted:For a game that's all about choice, they sure do like you to play it "the right way." And, of course, none of your choices matter until you end up in a room with four buttons. I was less let down by Dragon Age 2. One of my biggest issues with the game is that, other than the boss fights where they come in handy, the game gives you no reason to use lethal weapons. You get half the experience that you would otherwise get for taking someone out non-lethally, and making the lethal takedown make noise for whatever reason completely ruins any use it has. That said, I wouldn't at all compare my experience with this game to Dragon Age II. It has things I really disliked, but at least I enjoyed it when all is said and done. Dragon Age II was just a bad experience all around. Cardboard Box fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Sep 1, 2011 |
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How badly do you have to gently caress up as a person so that you don't have ANY of these by the end of Heng Sha: 1) a good weapon, even a fully modded 10mm pistol 2) typhoon 3) stun gun 4) use environment, physics items (PARTICULARLY FOR THIS BOSS) If you systematically gimp yourself (including, apparently, your own imagination/observation, not anything to do with what you can toss on your particular Adam Jensen) then yeah, whoops, got stuck on the boss, god this game sucks!
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losonti tokash posted:For a game that's all about choice, they sure do like you to play it "the right way." And, of course, none of your choices matter until you end up in a room with four buttons. I was less let down by Dragon Age 2. DXHR at least shot for the stars and reached space. Dragon Age 2 shot for the stars and exploded before takeoff.
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Sep 1, 2011 01:04
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Does Moores law apply to cybernetics?
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ded posted:
Ask Gunther how he felt when Paul and JC showed up at UNATCO.
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Sep 1, 2011 01:06
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Rest in peace Big Rizzle.
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Yeah, RIP.
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arioch posted:If you systematically gimp yourself (including, apparently, your own imagination/observation, not anything to do with what you can toss on your particular Adam Jensen) then yeah, whoops, got stuck on the boss, god this game sucks! Yeah, the boss fights have gotten almost universal criticism for no reason. loving crybaby scrubs, eh? They're poorly designed, trial and error style fights in a game otherwise completely devoid of such situations.
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Vanderdeath posted:Yeah, RIP. I think you mean: Yeah, rip.
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boner meter posted:Does anyone have any advice for this loving chore of a second boss? All the other advice on the internet seems to be 'Use the typhoon That fight loving sucked. I hope you have cloak at least or your life is going to be hell. Use a heavy rifle (There's one in the stage somewhere, dodge her at a right angle when she lunges at you, then immediately cloak and circle strife around her while you unload until she runs away. Rinse repeat. Don't go into the outer circle or you'll break your keyboard when she blows up one of the things. Use the wallhacks to find her when she cloaks if you have it and you can get some cheap shots in as well. Mines are good too, there's some EMP mines and some templates in the lockers.
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poptart_fairy posted:Yeah, the boss fights have gotten almost universal criticism for no reason. loving crybaby scrubs, eh? Yeah. Even if the boss fights aren't that difficult once you figure out a way to take care of them, they're still indefensibly terrible.
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Vanderdeath posted:DXHR at least shot for the stars and reached space. Dragon Age 2 shot for the stars and exploded before takeoff. I feel like DA2's plot had major issues, but the underlying game was alright. DEHR had major plot issues by virtue of being a DE game, and the gameplay itself is generally really bad if you don't do it exactly the way the designers wanted you to. Then you throw in stuff like the dumbshit guard AI and the really really bad interface and it's just a mess.
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losonti tokash posted:DEHR had major plot issues by virtue of being a DE game, and the gameplay itself is generally really bad if you don't do it exactly the way the designers wanted you to. Are you doing a SNAKES AND CAKES ironic gimmick, or. This is a game where you can safely go through all of it, minus the boss fights, using a goddamn fridge as your primary weapon. It's probably the least restricted FPS in terms of level progression. 
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poptart_fairy posted:Are you doing a SNAKES AND CAKES ironic gimmick, or. This is a game where you can safely go through all of it, minus the boss fights, using a goddamn fridge as your primary weapon. It's probably the least restricted FPS in terms of level progression. But there's no reason to? The game basically punishes you for not being stealthy as gently caress, which sort of flies in the face of their whole "all approaches are equally valid." The fact that the stealth mechanics are stupidly broken and the level design isn't thought out at all just makes even playing it the right way an exercise in "oh my god this game is awful."
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losonti tokash posted:But there's no reason to? The game basically punishes you for not being stealthy as gently caress, which sort of flies in the face of their whole "all approaches are equally valid." The fact that the stealth mechanics are stupidly broken and the level design isn't thought out at all just makes even playing it the right way an exercise in "oh my god this game is awful." Dragon Age 2
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losonti tokash posted:But there's no reason to? The game basically punishes you for not being stealthy as gently caress, which sort of flies in the face of their whole "all approaches are equally valid." The fact that the stealth mechanics are stupidly broken and the level design isn't thought out at all just makes even playing it the right way an exercise in "oh my god this game is awful." That's a 'yes' to the question then. Good grief.
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poptart_fairy posted:They're poorly designed, trial and error style fights in a game otherwise completely devoid of such situations. I'm hoping they were at least tacked on at the behest of Square Enix to make it more MGS-like or whatever, and not actually part of the developers original plan.
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boner meter posted:Does anyone have any advice for this loving chore of a second boss? All the other advice on the internet seems to be 'Use the typhoon Eh, I just ran away when she was cloaked, shot her with with my stun gun and threw grenades at her as well as shooting her in the head with the guns lying around. I had plenty of painkillers and hypostims since I've been playing non-lethal stealth so the relatively minor damage I endured wasn't a problem. I mean, the AI basically tells you what to do during that fight. It's pretty easy even on Hard. Unless you feel that you, as a stealth character, should have the ability to run up to the boss and win a straight up fight. In which case, the problem is really you. As usual, the real issue with the bosses is how they're introduced with a cutscene that pretty much goes "Here you go! A Boss Fight (TM) from nowhere!" ChronoReverse fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Sep 1, 2011 |
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poptart_fairy posted:That's a 'yes' to the question then. Good grief. Nope, sorry, no gimmick. Game is mediocre at best, full of bizarre and idiotic design choices like man-sized vents that don't have a layout that makes any sense, or fully armed spec ops soldiers carrying a max of 5 bullets for an assault rifle. Couple that with nothing you do matters even within the game itself, and it's just depressing that a sequel to this will get made while Alpha Protocol gets shat on by the gaming press because they didn't spend enough money on game reviews. I particularly like how they basically put no thought into most of the world itself, like how you can knock a guy out by shooting his mechanical arm with a tranq dart (or breaking it somehow disables him) or that there's payphones and newspaper kiosks all over the place. They were busy cramming in more stupid conspiracies.
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