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TheAceOfLungs posted:Okay, hands up if you thought that the punch-line was going to involve the Belt of Gender-Bending. Oh my god it would even match up with Thog's fear of cooties 
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Aug 30, 2011 06:18
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Effingham posted:I was thinking about the strip today, and something that occurred to me was the inversion of the Linear Guild and the Order of the Stick. Good job figuring that one out! (It was the joke made back when Roy and Thog first met. Roy presumed Thog to be the leader.) http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0044.html
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Alchenar posted:You missed the bit in the last comic where Roy was almost back to being even with Thog until the dog got thrown through the wall, at which point he started raging again. I didn't miss it. Normally with things like that you need to roll a d20 and Roy could just have rolled higher. But regardless of that Thog gets a +2 racial bonus to strength so I just assumed he's stronger. Unless of course Roy rolled up some ridiculously good stats so he can afford to match Thog's strength while outclassing him in all mental ones.
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Aug 30, 2011 08:54
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In my head, I imagine that Roy rolled insanely well (he apparently has above average stats in everything, with his lowest being either DEX or WIS), and the player decided to make a fighter so he wouldn't accidentally outshine the rest of the party.
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Aug 30, 2011 13:03
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Poil posted:I didn't miss it. Normally with things like that you need to roll a d20 and Roy could just have rolled higher. But regardless of that Thog gets a +2 racial bonus to strength so I just assumed he's stronger. Unless of course Roy rolled up some ridiculously good stats so he can afford to match Thog's strength while outclassing him in all mental ones. According to the geeks on the OotS message board, Roy has an umodified strength of at least 20, which is pretty drat massive. It means he's about as strong as a fighter of his level can possibly be. I assume Roy is stronger than Thog when Thog isn't raging, but the tables turn when he is. They're in good balance. And yeah, Roy has insane stats. There's nothing he's bad at.
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Aug 30, 2011 16:47
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Having hair, possibly.
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Aug 30, 2011 17:11
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inthesto posted:In my head, I imagine that Roy rolled insanely well (he apparently has above average stats in everything, with his lowest being either DEX or WIS) His wisdom and charisma are apparently high enough to make him a talented cleric--when he died, the deva reviewing his charts wanted to know why he didn't go caster.
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Aug 30, 2011 17:27
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Well, he might've had a natural 18 strength then added to it as he gained levels. Then his Wis, Int, and Con scores all need to be significantly above-average to explain his proficiency, so probably each somewhere in the 14-16 range. His Dex can be low since he's never been a shooter or shown exceptional agility that I can recall, and his Charisma really only needs to be slightly above average to explain his leadership qualities, so maybe 12-13. So that's like 18, three 14-16, one 12-13, and one 9-11. Pretty amazing and a rare set, but not totally insane. That'd be my guess at his stats, anyway. Also depending on the nature-nurture approach to mental/physical stats in a D&D universe (you're not born with your adult stats, after all) that celestial might have been referring to how Roy had the potential to have trained up to a cleric, with some stat point shuffling as a result of this different upbringing.
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Aug 30, 2011 18:21
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I legitimately rolled 12 14 14 16 17 17 on 4d6 drop lowest once while making a backup character, so it's entirely possible to get insane stats.
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Aug 30, 2011 18:37
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wdarkk posted:I legitimately rolled 12 14 14 16 17 17 on 4d6 drop lowest once while making a backup character, so it's entirely possible to get insane stats. I've been present to someone rolling all 18s. He made a monk though so his character was terrible and died in the first fight. But those stats were amazing!
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Dolash posted:Also depending on the nature-nurture approach to mental/physical stats in a D&D universe (you're not born with your adult stats, after all) that celestial might have been referring to how Roy had the potential to have trained up to a cleric, with some stat point shuffling as a result of this different upbringing. Or Roy could have been one of those clerics with 14-15 WIS and Righteous Mights everything into the dirt.
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Aug 30, 2011 18:45
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If a guy with a Monk and all 18's doesn't do well at start, that player is playing a monk poorly. Also, I think Roy is stated to have an INT score of 18 in one of the strips. Nilbop posted:Having hair, possibly. Bald is Beautiful. 
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Taerkar posted:If a guy with a Monk and all 18's doesn't do well at start, that player is playing a monk poorly. Obviously you've never played a game that starts at level 1.
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Aug 30, 2011 20:13
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ANYONE can die in a game that starts at level 1.
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Aug 31, 2011 00:01
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Nilbop posted:Having hair, possibly. He traded his hair for an Encumbrance bonus
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Aug 31, 2011 00:05
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Nah, it was for +1 Charisma with the ladies.
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Aug 31, 2011 00:22
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If it was me, I'd trade my hair for a  New strip!  No jokes and no real plot movement, but it's a hell of an interesting (and probably important) character moment.
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Sep 1, 2011 05:49
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That's some pretty hefty foreshadowing! I wonder what kind of dramatic setting there will be when we hear that line again.
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Oh, man. I didn't realize until just now how badly I want to see the IFCC again. Or Xykon. Or Tarquin. (The fact that he was introduced this arc obviously does not preclude wanting to see more of him.)
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DrakePegasus posted:Oh, man. I didn't realize until just now how badly I want to see the IFCC again. Or Xykon. Or Tarquin. (The fact that he was introduced this arc obviously does not preclude wanting to see more of him.) There will be a scene in which Elan, Tarquin, and Nale all fight and exchange repartee, and it will be awesome. Oh poo poo, I hope Tarquin does a "still evil but will help/join the team for a minute" when he finds out Xykon basically wants to destroy the world.
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Nale is actually really good at recruiting people.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Oh poo poo, I hope Tarquin does a "still evil but will help/join the team for a minute" when he finds out Xykon basically wants to destroy the world.
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One thing this strip gets right is the villains. They're all entertaining. If anything, Nale is the worst of them all, simply because he has no style. Compare him to Xykon, who is a lovable goof, or Redcloak, who is actually competent, or Tarquin, who is pure condensed bottled awesome. And the IFCC could give all those guys lessons. Nale really sucks compared to any of them.
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Nale's gimmick is supposed to be his needlessly complex plans, but since several other villains have necessarily complex plans, it doesn't stand out.
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SlimGoodbody posted:There will be a scene in which Elan, Tarquin, and Nale all fight and exchange repartee, and it will be awesome. Man if a villain joins a hero at the last second the villain gets killed to show how powerful the real big villain is. That's like adventuring 101. Tarquin wouldn't fall for that.
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ConfusedUs posted:One thing this strip gets right is the villains. They're all entertaining. I think the kindest thing to be done is damning Nale by faint praise. He isn't a bad villain, he's just up against really stiff competition. Were he the only villain-- if we didn't know what we were missing-- I don't imagine there would be any complaints. Especially since Nale screen time directly translates into Thog screen time.
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Dr I am a Doctor posted:It's Hill Giant - 19 STR Cloud giant was 23, and storm giant was 24.
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prefect posted:Cloud giant was 23, and storm giant was 24. Were these things even in the game?
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Nilbop posted:Were these things even in the game? In potion form, yes. In belt form, no.
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Sep 4, 2011 03:00
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Didn't monsters actually not have ability scores in AD&D?
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Captain Oblivious posted:In potion form, yes. In belt form, no.   Page 145 of the first-edition DMG. 
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Sep 4, 2011 11:24
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Sep 4, 2011 14:08
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prefect posted:
The "game" in this case refers to Baldur's Gate.
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Pope Guilty posted:Didn't monsters actually not have ability scores in AD&D? They didn't, but the girdles of ... strength were one of the few tiered items back in the day and used the giants as the tiers.
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Captain Oblivious posted:The "game" in this case refers to Baldur's Gate. Well, gently caress. 
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prefect posted:
Ok, it's been a long time since I've read my 1e stuff. If the number in parentheses is the chance to open locked/barred doors, does that mean the number before that was something someone would have to roll to open an unlocked door? 1/8 of the time someone stronger than the strongest human just couldn't open a door?
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That's for an unlocked but stuck door, or one that's been roughly barricaded but not barred. You roll against open door if someone pushed a dresser against the other side, or if it became stuck because it's been damp lately.
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Mystic Mongol posted:That's for an unlocked but stuck door, or one that's been roughly barricaded but not barred. You roll against open door if someone pushed a dresser against the other side, or if it became stuck because it's been damp lately. That sure sounds like a lot of fun! What a great statistic to have in your fantasy adventure games. The grognardy poo poo in some of those older systems blows my mind.
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