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MachinTrucChose posted:It looks like WHS + Drive Extender is still the only worthwhile simple storage solution short of relying on proprietary hardware like Drobo and ReadyNAS, even today. I took the plunge and am using DrivePool on my real server, it's not perfect but the developer is really nice and responds to my issues within 24 hours every time.
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I am planning to build a WHS in the near future. What type of hard drives should I use? I am planning to transfer two of my WD Black 1TB's, and was also thinking about picking up two WD Green 2TB's. Should I pick up a smaller HD to install the windows on? Or just partition one of the Blacks. (I will have 6 SATA ports).
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Sep 5, 2011 18:03
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I used WD Green 2TBs as my storage drives, and just an old 250Gb drive for the system drive. I'd recommend having a separate system drive that only has the OS on it.
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Sep 5, 2011 21:21
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edit: That was a stupid question. New question: I'm looking at either using this or FreeNAS. The biggest thing I need is FTP user accounts, which both supports. While the primary purpose of the machine is to backup files, I also want clients to have read access to certain folders. Does WHS handle that pretty well? indulgenthipster fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Sep 6, 2011 |
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Sep 6, 2011 03:07
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I am planning to build a WHS in the near future. What type of hard drives should I use? I am planning to transfer two of my WD Black 1TB's, and was also thinking about picking up two WD Green 2TB's. Should I pick up a smaller HD to install the windows on? Or just partition one of the Blacks. (I will have 6 SATA ports). For what it's worth, I didn't have good luck with WD Green drives in my WHS install. Trying to stream HD content never worked all that well and my problems went away after moving to Samsung F4s. VerySolidSnake posted:edit: That was a stupid question. Yes, WHS handles that quite well and makes it pretty easy. Will you be using 2011? qutius fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Sep 6, 2011 |
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Sep 6, 2011 15:26
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qutius posted:For what it's worth, I didn't have good luck with WD Green drives in my WHS install. Trying to stream HD content never worked all that well and my problems went away after moving to Samsung F4s. This is pretty much what I will be doing. Playing back HD content onto my TV. You would recommend the F4's then?
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Sep 6, 2011 16:52
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Thom P. Tiers posted:This is pretty much what I will be doing. Playing back HD content onto my TV. You would recommend the F4's then? Yeah they're pretty solid drives and I've had good luck with the four I purchased so far. I can hear the drives which was annoying at first when I had my NAS located in the living room, but it's tucked away in a closet now.
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Sep 6, 2011 17:11
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Just to give another opinion I have 4 WD Green drives in my Acer WHS box and never had an issue streaming 1080p content over ethernet.
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Sep 6, 2011 17:35
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qutius posted:Yes, WHS handles that quite well and makes it pretty easy. Will you be using 2011? Whichever is the best. I have a 16TB (expandable to 24TB) machine ready to order with 2gb of ram. It's a backup of a backup so I just need as much space as possible without any mirroring on the server. WHS really seems to be the best, and now FreeNAS is out of the question since it requires 1gb of ram for every 1TB of space.
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Sep 6, 2011 23:26
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VerySolidSnake posted:Whichever is the best. I have a 16TB (expandable to 24TB) machine ready to order with 2gb of ram. It's a backup of a backup so I just need as much space as possible without any mirroring on the server. WHS really seems to be the best, and now FreeNAS is out of the question since it requires 1gb of ram for every 1TB of space. Isn't that only if you turn dedup on? I'm sure if you could dedup with WHS it would eat up ram too.
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gariig posted:Just to give another opinion I have 4 WD Green drives in my Acer WHS box and never had an issue streaming 1080p content over ethernet. I have 4 WD Green drives too and never had issues with streaming 1080p.
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Sep 9, 2011 12:47
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modeski posted:I have 4 WD Green drives too and never had issues with streaming 1080p. Good to hear another opinion. Especially since the Green WD drives will be at my door when I get home. Thanks!
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Any way to get an mkv extension to play though WHS? I have a DLNA ready TV which supports the extension, just wondering how to get it to show up since WHS seems to not like mkv. I googles a little bit and its telling me that a registry edit may possibly help. Thanks for any help.
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modeski posted:I have 4 WD Green drives too and never had issues with streaming 1080p.
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I believe you can run a program via bootable media and disable the timer / spindown. edit: it's WDIDLE3 and can be found here http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=609&sid=113 Waffle Conspiracy fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 12, 2011 |
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Sep 12, 2011 18:07
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I'm pretty sure the problems with the WD green power drives have been resolved as of recent. The last couple 1.5TB's I used seemed to work pretty well with no spin downs and good transfer rates.
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redeyes posted:I'm pretty sure the problems with the WD green power drives have been resolved as of recent. The last couple 1.5TB's I used seemed to work pretty well with no spin downs and good transfer rates.
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Maybe folks here can help me out a bit. I went to expand the capacity of the pool on a WHS V1 box and mistakenly bought an advanced format drive. Went ahead and upgraded to WHS 2011 and installed StableBit Drive Pool. After the upgrade I can no longer stream Blurays due to excessive stuttering. The WHS box has a Zotac NM10-B-E w/ Atom D510 processor and 2GB ram. I'm trying to figure out if I should try upgrading the ram to 4GB or if I should try a dedicated Intel NIC or if I've completely boned myself because the requirements for Vail are higher than the hardware I have. Another option I'm pondering is dumping WHS 2011 completely and switching over to Win7 running Crash Plan and Drive Bender. Thoughts, ideas or opinions?
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TouchyMcFeely posted:Maybe folks here can help me out a bit. Did you try just streaming from a share and not the drive pool?
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kri kri posted:Did you try just streaming from a share and not the drive pool? That is an excellent idea and no I haven't. I'll have to give that a try. Thanks for the thought.
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Sep 13, 2011 23:57
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Big news: drive pooling is returning to Windows Server 8. http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011/09/14/disk-pooling-announced-for-windows-server-8/ Also does anyone really want to make a new thread? I am thinking of re-doing this one but if someone else wants to take a stab go ahead. I have PMs if you want to talk about it.
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Sep 16, 2011 20:57
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kri kri posted:Big news: drive pooling is returning to Windows Server 8. Now of course I have to wait for the obligatory "Windows Home Server 2012 will have X new features as well Drive pooling, screw your 2011 purchasers!"
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Sep 16, 2011 20:59
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Makes me glad I'm hanging on to my aging WHSv1 box now. I was kinda/halfway/sorta planning on rebuilding the server next year, so I'll definitely wait and see what this turns out as.
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kri kri posted:Big news: drive pooling is returning to Windows Server 8. I'll probably end up installing WHS 2011 regardless. I won't hold my breath on this, especially when it will probably take a while for the next version of WHS to actually arrive. That doesn't even include how well the Storage Spaces feature would work upon launch and how many hot fixes/updates will come out after its release.
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Sep 16, 2011 21:26
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kri kri posted:Big news: drive pooling is returning to Windows Server 8. OMFG Waiting..
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I have an HP LX195 sitting at home with an expired evaluation copy of WHS 2011 on it. What should I do with it? 1. Downgrade back to WHSv1 2. Install WHSv2 retail (requires me to purchase a license; it runs rather slow on this box) 3. Install an open source NAS solution 4. Other I have a mix of Windows 7, XBOX360, OSX Lion, and OSX Snow Leopard at home that would like to talk to this box.
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Sep 17, 2011 00:07
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kri kri posted:Big news: drive pooling is returning to Windows Server 8. This is good to see. Hopefully they don't limit it to SAS controllers and drives as the PC World quote in that article seems to hint at. Otherwise it would be kind of useless for the average home user. It sounds like they might have been talking about full Server 8, but hopefully they include some form of pooling in the home version.
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Anybody who has been considering other platforms should give a Linux box with Greyhole a try. In its default configuration it acts just like Windows Home Server v1's DE (and you can even use your DE drives with it untouched, though slowly through NTFS-3G) but the configuration options are immense. It works through Samba, so just like WHS DE you have to mount the SMB share even to use it locally, but unlike WHS you can still use the disks for non-pool data and you can add data to the pool drives directly when migrating in to it (just fsck the pool after the files are copied). I sat back and watched this project for quite some time and I'm glad I finally went for it.
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Sep 30, 2011 21:16
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What kinda hardware are you running it on?
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Just a former desktop turned HTPC/server. Athlon X2 3800+, A8N-SLI Deluxe, GeForce GT220, and a bunch of hard drives. It serves files, plays 1080p content, and hosts a few private game servers (mostly Minecraft these days).
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I'm putting together a server made from my previous q6600 build and adding 5x 3TB drives. If I want at least double redundancy (server can survive two drives dying before losing data), which version of WHS should I go for? From reading this thread it seems 2011 is the newest but has had its RAID-like functionality functionality removed?
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Insidious posted:I'm putting together a server made from my previous q6600 build and adding 5x 3TB drives. If I want at least double redundancy (server can survive two drives dying before losing data), which version of WHS should I go for? From reading this thread it seems 2011 is the newest but has had its RAID-like functionality functionality removed? 2011 has software RAID but is lacking the drive pooling feature of V1 without add-ins. WHS V1 doesn't support 3Tb drives so you would pretty much have to use 2011 unless you have some sort of hardware RAID controller and skipped the pooling feature altogether. Even then I'm not sure if V1 could use all that space as a single volume. I could be wrong there. If you want enough redundancy that you could loose 2 drives I think you are going to need RAID 6. I don't know that 2011 supports that with software, so you will probably need a RAID controller that could do it for you. That will probably be fairly expensive. You might also want to look at one of the drive pooling solutions for 2011 and duplicate all your data with that.
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I'd like to avoid hardware RAID if possible, because of the mentioned expense. So is 2011 the way to go? What does "software RAID but no drive pooling" mean? Those terms are a bit muddled for me.
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One Arm Manny posted:2011 has software RAID but is lacking the drive pooling feature of V1 without add-ins. WHS V1 doesn't support 3Tb drives so you would pretty much have to use 2011 unless you have some sort of hardware RAID controller and skipped the pooling feature altogether. Even then I'm not sure if V1 could use all that space as a single volume. I could be wrong there. This isn't entirely true, there is a hack to make WHS v1 support 3TB drives. It's a bit of a process, detailed here but once done, you can use 3TB drives with no problems. I just added a pair of 3TB drives to my server to replace 4 aging 500GB drives and the process went very smoothly.
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Insidious posted:...What does "software RAID but no drive pooling" mean? Those terms are a bit muddled for me. Software RAID acts like hardware RAID. For example in a 3 drive RAID 5 it will split data up amongst 2 of the drives and write parity (recovery) data on the third. The drive that gets the parity data changes with each write, so when a drive fails you can recover the content from the parity data on the other 2. Drive pooling can take several drives of different sizes and make them appear as one drive. There is no parity data, but file duplication can be turned on to ensure important data is written to multiple physical discs. Mthrboard posted:...there is a hack to make WHS v1 support 3TB drives... Interesting. I have a couple of friends who are sticking with V1 that may want to try this.
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Thanks for explaining, that makes sense now. Part of what attracted me to building a Windows Home Server is that I can use this file level duplication technology and not RAID, with the advantage of being able to take out a drive and read it on another machine if i have issues. So, seeing as I'm building a 5x 3TB server, what version of WHS should i go with that has this drive pooling?
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wolrah posted:Anybody who has been considering other platforms should give a Linux box with Greyhole a try. In its default configuration it acts just like Windows Home Server v1's DE (and you can even use your DE drives with it untouched, though slowly through NTFS-3G) but the configuration options are immense. On this note, is anyone using Amahi? I looked into it a while ago but never seriously. I notice they use Greyhole for their pooling technology.
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Insidious posted:Thanks for explaining, that makes sense now. Part of what attracted me to building a Windows Home Server is that I can use this file level duplication technology and not RAID, with the advantage of being able to take out a drive and read it on another machine if i have issues. If you can deal with add-on pooling technology both Drivepool and Drive bender provide this. I use drivepool and it works fine. I have 12tb or so I forget.
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kri kri posted:If you can deal with add-on pooling technology both Drivepool and Drive bender provide this. I use drivepool and it works fine. I have 12tb or so I forget. After doing some more reading I think this might just be what I go for - WHS 2011 with DrivePool. Have you had any problems with it? Have you ever lost any data? Have you had to add or remove drives yet and how well did it deal with those scenarios?
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Insidious posted:After doing some more reading I think this might just be what I go for - WHS 2011 with DrivePool. Have you had any problems with it? Have you ever lost any data? Have you had to add or remove drives yet and how well did it deal with those scenarios? No information loss. I have not removed any drives but added one, it was seamless. I would say its ready for use, the performance isn't fantastic but it works just fine for me. I use sabnzb/mumble/sickbeard and I have 2 boxee boxes that I use with no issues at all.
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