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So I just got the Stone Giant's Sword (the one that can cast slow on 2 handed heavy attack). It's 148/100/0/0/100 with C/C/E stat scaling compared to the Black Knight Sword which is 205/0/0/100 with C/E stat scaling. For some reason it's hitting for 30 less damage than the black knight sword. Shouldn't it be hitting for significantly more considering it has a higher base damage when factoring in the additional 100 magic damage and it has better stat scaling? Also on the stat screen it says the black knight sword gets +98 damage from my stats while this sword only gets +90 from my stats, even though it has better stat scaling. I'm sort of confused on how damage is calculated right now.
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Aurra posted:I've beaten the Bell Gargoyles and Moonlight Butterfly, where should I go next? I'm around level 20 using a +2 Uchigatana and the armor I started with. Maybe you've already been there, as I forget where the Uchigatana is, but if you haven't yet the next steps would probably be taking out the Capra Demon in lower Undead Burg. You can get there via a doorway at the start of the bridge with the Wyvern near the Solaire NPC followed by The Depths, after the Capra Demon. If you don't get cursed, the Depths are actually a pretty relaxing break before the nightmares that come next, so enjoy it.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:21
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Agnostic watermelon posted:Any tips for the Capra Demon? I could kill him if his first attack I could dodge his first attack and take out the dogs.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:24
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Agnostic watermelon posted:Any tips for the Capra Demon? I could kill him if his first attack I could dodge his first attack and take out the dogs. Light armor? Try speeding to the stairs at the other side of the room, kill the dogs and then lob firebombs at it. If medium/heavy with enough end to guard his strongest attack then run to the stairs, kill dogs and then plink at his health till he's dead.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:24
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just can't believe how many people have been having trouble with that fight. Even with one other person to draw the dogs away it's a cinch, I think. Yeah every time I fought him as a phantom I can easily beat him, but when I'm alone he does his jumping attack as soon as I walk through the fog taking out all my endurance and HP.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:26
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I loving hate the Capra demon. I got buy it once and murdered the dogs; he would've been easy but I foolishly tried to heal when I had a sliver of life (he didn't have much left either) and he murdered me. If I could dodge that first loving attack it'd be fine but I can't. I always end up running into him or one of the dogs and can't escape. Do people help enough on that battle that it'd be worth using a humanity item to come back and get a helper? I don't want to waste one if no one would be there to help, since there's a 95% chance I'm screwed before I get a chance to do anything. I'm level 20 if that makes it any more likely that a helper would be there.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:27
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Guliani is HOT posted:Hmm that's interesting, I just killed the Wolf with Havel's Set after trying and failing a lot with my normal armor. Definitely viable although running around must be a pain in the rear end. Are you playing over 50% encumbrance? Also, where's the stone set? That set is in the Darkroot Forest
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Oct 8, 2011 20:31
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PS Frank Capra and his movies were all about feeling good. He would not approve of the way his namesake is being used here 
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Oct 8, 2011 20:32
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I think I have to stop playing this game for a while before I break it. I pretty consistently use up all ten of my estus flask charges getting through the enemies in the boar room of the undead parish. Not the boar himself; just all the assnuggets surrounding him. Gonna break my disc in a minute 
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Oct 8, 2011 20:34
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Brian Fellows posted:PS Frank Capra and his movies were all about feeling good. He would not approve of the way his namesake is being used here Capra means 'goat' or 'ram'.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:37
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:If you go through the woods to the sealed door and turn right, you will ambushed. In that area is a fog door. Go through it. You'll see an item ball on the ground, it has the full set in it. Use a homeward bone to escape to safety, or run. Or die. Whichever. Oh wow Jesus you weren't kidding. I died on the first attempt to get it due to those stupid plant dudes and their grab attack (is that even blockable!?) and then I tried to be sneaky the second time and took the long way around, killed two plant dudes and this enormous sleeping stone knight who cast magic to slow me down or something! and crept over towards the item, only to get ambushed by two more plants (who I was expecting) and ANOTHER giant stone dude. I run past, grab the armor and my bloodstain, run away, hit a dead end with yet another giant stone dude, and try to run wearing heavier armor away from the quick enemies, end up getting grabbed and barely escaping...only to get sucker stabbed from three yards away! I got the armor, but I'm scared to go get my 2000+ souls back. The real Dark Souls starts here.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:38
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Ledneh posted:I think I have to stop playing this game for a while before I break it. I pretty consistently use up all ten of my estus flask charges getting through the enemies in the boar room of the undead parish. Not the boar himself; just all the assnuggets surrounding him. If you're having trouble there, then you need to upgrade your poo poo. Or strategize more. This is not a game of kill-six-dudes-at-once, this is a game of kiting. What I did was ignore the boar, kill everyone else including the dudes on the bridge, leaving just me and the boar. Then I hopped down in my lightest armor, rolled as much as I could to avoid this attacks, and backstabbed him with a Winged Spear +3. If you keep going and going, eventually you'll take him down.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:39
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Hello ladies  (armor spoiler?) http://i.imgur.com/wiGHH.jpg
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Oct 8, 2011 20:40
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God drat finally after wasting 10 humanity I was able to off Smough first and not get wrecked by Ornstein when he powered up. Thanks for bein a bro Knight Solaire.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:42
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I'm just starting to use a slashing weapon, and how does the bleeding mechanic work in regards to enemies anyway? Do they suddenly lose a whole shitload of hit points when some hidden gauge fills, or is it something else? And what enemies CAN bleed?
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Oct 8, 2011 20:43
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Ledneh posted:I think I have to stop playing this game for a while before I break it. I pretty consistently use up all ten of my estus flask charges getting through the enemies in the boar room of the undead parish. Not the boar himself; just all the assnuggets surrounding him. there's a pretty easy, if slow way to get through this section. It helps to have the Drake Sword since that'll let you one-shot trash Hollows. Basically, from the first archway, dash out, then dash back--you'll lure two Hollow Shield guys out to you without triggering the boar. Kill them, then go right. Staircase is there, follow it up to find another Hollow Shield and the bridge with the two archers. Keep your guard up at all times, or camp on the stairs--this shield guy will basically refuse to attack you while the archers are alive. Another shield guy will approach from the bottom of the stairs! Be prepared for this and take him out, he's much more aggressive. Once you deal with him, you can either kick-break the other Hollow's guard or run past him and take down the archers--he'll likely not attack you while you slaughter his friends. Once they are dead, you can finish him at your leisure. The boar's weakness is a plunging attack, but you'll want to try and lure him into range with an attract skull. Or just do what I did, and firebomb him five times and shoot a bunch of arrows into his butt. Not too hard, but you have to move slow. He doesn't respawn, so good luck!
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Oct 8, 2011 20:43
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Megasabin posted:So I just got the Stone Giant's Sword (the one that can cast slow on 2 handed heavy attack). It's 148/100/0/0/100 with C/C/E stat scaling compared to the Black Knight Sword which is 205/0/0/100 with C/E stat scaling. Well it has to do with how different damage types interact with the corresponding defense stats. Essentially, a weapon that has two damage types (like your Stone Giant Sword, physical and magic) is checked against the target's physical and magic defenses to determine the damage. Thus the damage is actually reduced twice. A weapon (like the Black Knight Sword) only has to make one defense check (physical in this case) to determine damage, so its only reduced once. The idea is that you want to get the most damage possible into one damage type to avoid it being reduced. The scaling works is definitely a little more wonky than in DeS. The letter is truly not an accurate representation of the scaling from what I've seen. It seems to change from weapon to weapon, and it also boosted depending on how much its upgraded. Another thing to note, esspesilly in your example, is that the amount of stat modifiers seems to decrease the overall scaling. Like your Stone Giants Sword is splitting its scaling between 3 stats, and the Black Knight Sword only 2. I once had a +10 katana that was -/B/-/- and a +10 rapier that was E/B/-/-. You'd expect the rapier to have slightly better scaling, but it was actually slightly worse. I can't say that I fully understand the scaling either, but that's just what I've gleamed so far.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:45
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Dickweasel Alpha posted:If you're having trouble there, then you need to upgrade your poo poo. Or strategize more. This is not a game of kill-six-dudes-at-once, this is a game of kiting. You misunderstand--I killed the boar (through dumb luck) already. It's getting back through there that is ruining me. And I can't upgrade my poo poo, how am I supposed to do that? I haven't seen a blacksmith!
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Oct 8, 2011 20:45
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RentCavalier posted:there's a pretty easy, if slow way to get through this section. It helps to have the Drake Sword since that'll let you one-shot trash Hollows. Basically, from the first archway, dash out, then dash back--you'll lure two Hollow Shield guys out to you without triggering the boar. Kill them, then go right. Staircase is there, follow it up to find another Hollow Shield and the bridge with the two archers. Keep your guard up at all times, or camp on the stairs--this shield guy will basically refuse to attack you while the archers are alive. Another shield guy will approach from the bottom of the stairs! Be prepared for this and take him out, he's much more aggressive. Once you deal with him, you can either kick-break the other Hollow's guard or run past him and take down the archers--he'll likely not attack you while you slaughter his friends. Once they are dead, you can finish him at your leisure. All you have to do is back stab his rear end once with the drake sword and he'll die. Boar gotta take a poo poo and armor covering his evac hole wouldn't be that smart.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:46
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And if you beat the boar, you get a totally rad helmet. [e] One tip I have for new players is GET THE GODDAMN DRAKE SWORD. It makes combat so much easier when you only have to hit the weak ones once.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:46
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Just lost every soul I earned during my Blighttown adventures that took 3 hours by rolling off a cliff and then getting gangbanged ´by low level enemies because I was trying to rush past them.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:47
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Ledneh posted:You misunderstand--I killed the boar (through dumb luck) already. It's getting back through there that is ruining me. And I can't upgrade my poo poo, how am I supposed to do that? I haven't seen a blacksmith! Blacksmith is near the actual church just a little more from where you are. Take it nice and slow with a 100% def shield and it shouldnt be an issue. Dont rush or you'll end up full of arrows and stabbed to death.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:48
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Ledneh posted:You misunderstand--I killed the boar (through dumb luck) already. It's getting back through there that is ruining me. And I can't upgrade my poo poo, how am I supposed to do that? I haven't seen a blacksmith! If you're dumb like me you didn't realize that theres a shortcut from the bonfire to straight under the dragon bridge, you just have to kick the ladder down. I kept fighting all the way through to the Parish and running out of Estus flasks by the time I'd make it to the caped Knights.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:49
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How do you avoid the powered up executioner's charging attack? Almost every time I die, its due to that. Sometimes I can get through with a perfect double roll, but eventually I'll just get crushed.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:52
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Jaros posted:If you're dumb like me you didn't realize that theres a shortcut from the bonfire to straight under the dragon bridge, you just have to kick the ladder down. I kept fighting all the way through to the Parish and running out of Estus flasks by the time I'd make it to the caped Knights. No, I got that one. I'm literally using all ten flask charges on the shitbirds in that one room. How am I supposed to not get stabbed when I got two turtling shield+spear users and when one attacks and I circle round the other one stabs me in the rear end in a top hat? 
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Oct 8, 2011 20:53
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I loving hate this loving poo poo. (Under the dragon bridge.) (Because I get loving poisoned every time and have nothing to fix that)
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Oct 8, 2011 20:55
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Ledneh posted:How am I supposed to not get stabbed when I got two turtling shield+spear users and when one attacks and I circle round the other one stabs me in the rear end in a top hat? In situations like this, I find it helpful to position yourself so one of the turtling Hollowed soldiers is substantially closer to you than the other, then run around with your shield down and your back turned to bait him into attacking. The spear thrusts have a long, heavily telegraphed windup, so either attack him quickly beforehand if you have a fast weapon or block and counter, and be ready to roll away if the other one rears back to impale you while you're attacking his friend.
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Oct 8, 2011 20:57
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I basically ran past most of the enemies in the parish until I was able to get to the bonfire by the smith. Do I have to go back and fight the people in the church? Im level 13. Also, any tips for that big fucker that throws lightning at you?
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Oct 8, 2011 20:58
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Wizard of Wang posted:I basically ran past most of the enemies in the parish until I was able to get to the bonfire by the smith. Do I have to go back and fight the people in the church? Im level 13. The next boss you want to fight is on the roof of the church, so yeah, that should be your next destination. Lightning chucker dude might be a little hard for you at the moment unless you want to cheese him with arrows.
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Oct 8, 2011 21:00
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:So I appear to be trapped in the Catacombs. Anyone? If I can't find a way out I'm gonna be stuck with restarting this character, and I'd made some drat good progress 
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Oct 8, 2011 21:02
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Brian Fellows posted:I loving hate the Capra demon. I got buy it once and murdered the dogs; he would've been easy but I foolishly tried to heal when I had a sliver of life (he didn't have much left either) and he murdered me. If I could dodge that first loving attack it'd be fine but I can't. I always end up running into him or one of the dogs and can't escape. Summons some phantoms and when you enter just hide in the corner to the right until the phantoms enter. If you can survive until they do you should be able to win as they will distract people, meaning you won't be ganged up on as much right away. Once the dogs are dead its easy.
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Oct 8, 2011 21:03
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Ledneh posted:No, I got that one. I'm literally using all ten flask charges on the shitbirds in that one room. Kick them it breaks their guard. In fact can this go in the op since nobody seems to try kicking (including myself for the first many hours) Also how do you get hit that much drat.
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Oct 8, 2011 21:04
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To people who couldn't get the dragon to appear from the top of the tower: try removing his tail. As soon as I got the drake sword and went to the top of the tower, he was there. Also, this drake sword...isn't that good? Granted I just got it at level 28...
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Oct 8, 2011 21:04
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Crowbear posted:The next boss you want to fight is on the roof of the church, so yeah, that should be your next destination. Lightning chucker dude might be a little hard for you at the moment unless you want to cheese him with arrows. I think I am going to buy a cheap copy of Demon Souls since this is just a rental from redbox. Wish I had it longer but I figure I should beat the first one before getting into this one too heavily.
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Oct 8, 2011 21:05
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Talran posted:I know some bonfires that are getting upgrades for no reason! :3
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Oct 8, 2011 21:05
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deadtear posted:Kick them it breaks their guard. In fact can this go in the op since nobody seems to try kicking (including myself for the first many hours) Seriously? Jesus loving christ why would kicking break their guard when a giant fuckoff morningstar doesn't?
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Oct 8, 2011 21:05
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Can anyone direct me to the Firekeepers Soul in Blighttown?
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Oct 8, 2011 21:06
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Ledneh posted:Seriously? Jesus loving christ why would kicking break their guard when a giant fuckoff morningstar doesn't? You can 2h your weapons and guard break really easy as well. Before I knew that kicking did a shitload of stam damage I would 2h my weapon and hit them 3 times to kill them, the first 2 to guard break and do some damage through the shield, the third would be unblocked and lethal.
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Oct 8, 2011 21:06
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Anyone? If I can't find a way out I'm gonna be stuck with restarting this character, and I'd made some drat good progress I don't know where that is but do you happen to have a homeward bone you can use to warp back to the last bonfire? Or worst case scenario you can use the darksign to warp back even though it costs you all your souls and humanity. Either is better than just starting a brand new character.
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Defiant Sally posted:Can anyone direct me to the Firekeepers Soul in Blighttown? You're going to want to either come in from Valley of Drakes or take the water wheel in the bottom area up. That should set you on the right track.
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