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The junk collector posted:Hell a Decanter of Endless water + a bag of holding = a portable ocean. If players ever got away with this it's just lazy DM'ing. Bags aren't infinite in scope, I think the largest is like 18 or 24 square feet. Big, but water-wise that might be enough for a swimming hole. Not to mention the day or two spent holding the flask above the bag.
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TampaTango posted:Easily replaced by a level 1 wand, Summon Natures Ally I or Summon Monster I. If you want an animal that lasts six seconds, go for it.
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Nov 7, 2011 00:45
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Mystic Mongol posted:If you want an animal that lasts six seconds, go for it. Six seconds is enough to trigger a trap, or fall over 150 feet. At 15gp per charge, it's fairly economical - a high level party could carry dozens of them and just spam the whole place with badgers or whatever.
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Nov 7, 2011 01:55
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DontMockMySmock posted:Six seconds is enough to trigger a trap, or fall over 150 feet. At 15gp per charge, it's fairly economical - a high level party could carry dozens of them and just spam the whole place with badgers or whatever. But for the cost of 60 charges -- just six minutes of wand badgers, you can roll up with one hundred minutes of trick animals per week! Order now, and we'll throw in a free Quall's feather token of an anchor, and this elegant cinching cord.
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Nov 7, 2011 03:32
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:I suppose they could be great decoys for anything. His plan succeed, but with the caveat that they had started to like the monkey but immediately had it killed, causing them to feel a fair amount of regret.
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Nov 7, 2011 13:54
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I just alignment shift people when they start doing that. Most people don't mind.
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Nov 8, 2011 00:50
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So, that Erfworld guy has resorted to basically writing erotic fanfiction of his own story. Yeah.
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Nov 9, 2011 09:42
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I don't think that's fair. A) It's not erotic in the least. It's a creepy story about a creepy character. B) He's doing text updates because the guy who does the art is taking some time off to deal with his mother dying.
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Nov 9, 2011 11:39
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Nov 11, 2011 16:21
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"Everyone needs my kind of stability" is the best line to describe Lawful Evil.
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Nov 11, 2011 16:48
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BrainWeasel posted:"Everyone needs my kind of stability" is the best line to describe Lawful Evil. Tarqin is the best villain in a strip filled with great villains. All of the others are fun, but only Redcloak comes anywhere near to competent.
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Nov 12, 2011 01:50
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It's been a loooong time since I've seen a quality argument between a Lawful Evil character and a Chaotic Good character. And by loooong I mean "never." Props, Rich.
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Nov 12, 2011 02:19
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DrakePegasus posted:It's been a loooong time since I've seen a quality argument between a Lawful Evil character and a Chaotic Good character. All he needs to do is keep it cool for an hour or so and he gets away clean. So, of course, he spends the rest of the comic ranting angrily and fucks everything up. What an idiot.
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Nov 12, 2011 22:44
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CapnAndy posted:Hailey's dad is Chaotic Stupid. He's essentially a hippy who steals poo poo and fights in arenas. So better than a hippy, but still with annoying hippy views and just pretend he says man at the end of every sentence.
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Nov 12, 2011 23:02
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We're talking about a guy who howled at his own daughter for divulging that her mommy was dead, because he's that paranoid. The guy ain't right in the head.
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Nov 13, 2011 00:07
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Nilbop posted:He's essentially a hippy who steals poo poo and fights in arenas. So better than a hippy, but still with annoying hippy views and just pretend he says man at the end of every sentence. He's a hippy dual-wielding daggers. Good Striker. Best Hippy.
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Nov 13, 2011 07:10
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I don't know when we started scoffing at men who had the courage of their beliefs even after years of grueling torture and imprisonment, but yeah, while it'd be more effective to stay quiet and he's clearly got some issues, give some props to the rebel who gets let out of jail and immediately, fearlessly thumbs his nose at the rear end in a top hat who had him imprisoned.
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Nov 13, 2011 07:20
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Dolash posted:I don't know when we started scoffing at men who had the courage of their beliefs even after years of grueling torture and imprisonment, but yeah, while it'd be more effective to stay quiet and he's clearly got some issues, give some props to the rebel who gets let out of jail and immediately, fearlessly thumbs his nose at the rear end in a top hat who had him imprisoned. He is dumb. Chaotic Good doesn't mean you can't smile in the face of a tyrant, especially if that means he'll turn his back on you (where you can put a dagger), or let you into the cogs of his machine (where wrenches go).
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Nov 13, 2011 07:48
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Dolash posted:I don't know when we started scoffing at men who had the courage of their beliefs even after years of grueling torture and imprisonment, but yeah, while it'd be more effective to stay quiet and he's clearly got some issues, give some props to the rebel who gets let out of jail and immediately, fearlessly thumbs his nose at the rear end in a top hat who had him imprisoned. No, the dude is pretty clearly dumb. He's pursuing three seconds of spitting in the face of a tyrant in favor of smiling, walking away, and using the remaining years of his life and his considerable skills to act as a saboteur or insurrectionist. Given a choice between immediate, easy but ultimately shallow gratification or a long hard road of ultimately more satisfying rebellion, he took the route that required the least amount of thought. Dude's a moron.
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Nov 13, 2011 07:51
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Dudes also been sunbaked and rotted away in a prison for quite sometime, too. I imagine that does some damage to your mental cognitive processes. Still dumb, though.
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Nov 13, 2011 08:26
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The greatest irony is that the one guy he does trust, that guy that's imprisoned with him, was making all kinds of shady comments. I wouldn't be surprised if that trusted ally is actually in charge of making sure he stays locked up, and out of the hair of the new leader of the Thieves' Guild.
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Nov 13, 2011 10:42
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Haley's dad is being stupid and makes me want to punch him, but that may be because reminds me way too much of someone in my gaming group who will absolutely gently caress over everything - plot, relationships, his and our chances of survival - in exchange for a chance to make a snide defiant comment to the Big Bad.
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Nov 13, 2011 21:04
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Eschers Basement posted:Haley's dad is being stupid and makes me want to punch him, but that may be because reminds me way too much of someone in my gaming group who will absolutely gently caress over everything - plot, relationships, his and our chances of survival - in exchange for a chance to make a snide defiant comment to the Big Bad. This is so apt, I can't think of Rich doing anything else.
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Nov 14, 2011 11:03
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New Comic http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0815.html Will that gag ever get old? No. No, it will not.
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Nov 15, 2011 07:48
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Roy's facepalm just makes it.
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Nov 15, 2011 10:59
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I love the extent to which Elan and Nale are very much their father's sons.
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Nov 15, 2011 11:24
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I really liked the clever tag-team by Roy and Haley to suggest to Tarquin that Nale is looking for Draketooth - which is quite likely, in fact.
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I guess I don't understand/remember why they're even bothering to hide the fact that Roy is part of the Order. Honestly, Tarquin may be Lawful Evil, but we've already seen he's willing to bend the rules when they benefit him. Like when the bounty hunter who messed with him got his documentation 'lost'. If Elan had mentioned from the beginning that Roy was part of his team, Tarquin would probably have found some loophole to get him out of the pit fights, if only so that Elan would have the strongest team possible to go out and fight other evils with.
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Bobulus posted:I guess I don't understand/remember why they're even bothering to hide the fact that Roy is part of the Order. There is no difference between Lawful and Neutral Evil in D&D.
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Bobulus posted:If Elan had mentioned from the beginning that Roy was part of his team, Tarquin would probably have found some loophole to get him out of the pit fights, if only so that Elan would have the strongest team possible to go out and fight other evils with. We still don't truly know if Tarquin is helping Elan or not. He's already expressly stated that he knows Elan needs to be the one to kill him because it's just such a good story. Haley and Roy are just playing their cards close to the chest until they really know what Tarquin's true intentions are. Maybe they'll reveal the information after they find out where Girard is, but I think they'll keep the charade up as long as they possibly can. Also, there's the distinct possibility that Tarquin knows they're all part of the same party and is just playing along to let them think they have an advantage on him, when they really don't. Anywho, glad to see Haley's back to her fleshy self. 
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Bobulus posted:I guess I don't understand/remember why they're even bothering to hide the fact that Roy is part of the Order. On the one hand, it's a bit silly because Tarquin was willing to throw all his resources behind Elan under the "hey, that villain is trying to destroy my planet!" villain-team-up-with-hero clause, but on the other, you probably don't want to give Tarquin any knowledge you don't have to because he'll find some way to use it, so... yeah.
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Nov 16, 2011 06:54
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CapnAndy posted:Because Haley is her father's daughter and unilaterally forbade Elan to tell Tarquin anything, on the grounds that she didn't trust him. That doesn't fit Tarquin's modus operandi though; he's already been willing to give up the appearance of power for actual power in order to stay alive, and willing to share power in order to maximise the stability of his position. He isn't the Xyklon 'worth the risk also I'm sure it'll be fine because I'm awesome' type and he isn't the 'even if we destroy existence it works out better for greenskins next time' Redcloak type. Tarquin would leave the people protecting the Think That Can Unmake Reality well alone.
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Alchenar posted:Tarquin would leave the people protecting the Think That Can Unmake Reality well alone. Well, unless he thought he could do a better job guarding it. The current guards haven't proven very effective...
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Nov 16, 2011 10:55
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Hypocrisy posted:There is no difference between Lawful and Neutral Evil in D&D. It strikes me that someone who is lawful evil is somebody who would happily abuse the law for their own gain. In fact I'd say it's part of what makes them lawful evil. Someone who is chaotic evil would ignore the law, while someone who is lawful evil would use the law to gently caress someone over while maintaining a veneer of innocence.
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Slime posted:It strikes me that someone who is lawful evil is somebody who would happily abuse the law for their own gain. In fact I'd say it's part of what makes them lawful evil. Someone who is chaotic evil would ignore the law, while someone who is lawful evil would use the law to gently caress someone over while maintaining a veneer of innocence. A Neutral Evil Tarquin would (as Haley's dad says) happily create an illusion of using (and abusing) the law, when the reality is that the law is Whatever He Says It Is (which is not the same thing as being Lawful).
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If you're the ultimate authority in the land then Lawful Evil gives you a lot of wiggle room.
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Alchenar posted:That doesn't fit Tarquin's modus operandi though; he's already been willing to give up the appearance of power for actual power in order to stay alive, and willing to share power in order to maximise the stability of his position.
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Nov 16, 2011 23:25
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CapnAndy posted:I'm thinking more along the lines of that if Tarquin knows that Roy and Belkar matter to Elan, he'll find some way to use that knowledge. Not sure what more it could hurt considering he already knows about Haley, but it's Tarquin. Do you wanna take the risk? I don't think Tarquin would mind finding out later, either. "Oh, well, you know how it is. Always good to have a back up ally/ We thought it would make for a dramatic reveal down the line." He'd probably just shrug it off as good tactics and continue doing whatever he was doing.
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One way this plotline could easily resolve: Tarquin's "offer" to Roy is to hire him to be a bodyguard for his son, which Elan happily accepts. They get the info they want and leave. After they leave, Tarquin reveals that he knew Roy was part of the crew all along, and went along with the whole charade so that it would be more dramatically-interesting. All he's done is help fund a group that will keep his world existing, and put Elan on the path to eventually fight him. Plus any money paid to his new "hireling" will probably come at the cost of information, which is always useful.
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