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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
In the Human Centipede II (spoilers about how he grabs "voluntaries") the villain kidnaps people by shooting them in the legs, shoulders, chest, lungs and head, and if that wasn't enough he bashes them on the head with a crowbar, visibly causing massive head-trauma. They all wake up a few hours later all fine and dandy because he put duct tape on their wounds!

The movie is a massive head ache, specially the last half hour (it was the first time i had to stop a movie because i was feeling physically sick.), but the way he kept doing it over and over and over, it was like the movie was parodying itself.

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its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
There's this one scene in Time Bandits that's always pissed me off. I could just never get over how they portrayed Napoleon as a drunk who just sat around all day and watched dramatic theater. I know it was supposed to be a comedy but come on. It wasn't even FUNNY theater!

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I was just watching Terminator 3 and the scene where the female terminator is disguised as what's her name's fiance, gets out of the cop car and approaches her in the graveyard, why did she suddenly shift out of her disguise right before trying to kill her? God that movie sucked. What I saw of it anyway.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
It did have the most awesome swirly to be captured on film. :colbert:

Latest one to irritate me was The Rock. There are a lot of bitch points in the movie, but the biggest irritation to me is the doll at the beginning. How did they manage to ship tons of terrorist poo poo over in what appears to be random cardboard boxes, yet NOT flip the switch that would activate the doll? It's apparently activated by just sitting it up, so if the box moved at all, doll's little sensor goes off, eyes open, gas starts spraying out.

Yes, irrational, and irritating.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!
Against my better judgment, I watched the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie last night. The thing is filled with inconsistencies, character actions that make no sense, and things they had no explanation for so they didn't even bother.

The dumbest single moment, though, had to be the use of a pig as a negotiation tactic. Jack Sparrow has two goblets necessary, for...some reason, for the ritual of the Fountain of Youth. He attaches them to a pig and threatens to release it unless Blackbeard meet his demands.

This isn't entirely idiotic, as they're in the middle of a jungle, and a wild pig is drat hard to catch. What's insanely stupid about the scene is that Blackbeard and every man with him has a gun. Guns that are loaded and have been shown to us constantly. And the pig is all of twenty feet away. So, you know...tension, I guess.

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

BiggerBoat posted:

I was just watching Terminator 3 and the scene where the female terminator is disguised as what's her name's fiance, gets out of the cop car and approaches her in the graveyard, why did she suddenly shift out of her disguise right before trying to kill her? God that movie sucked. What I saw of it anyway.

And yet, I'd much rather sit through Terminator 3 than that Christian Bale one. At least Terminator 3 was having fun.

This opinion has the power to irrationally irritate people btw.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Practical Demon posted:

Against my better judgment, I watched the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie last night.

Likewise. That movie would have been better in direct proportion to how much they made it stick to the book, instead of just optioning the title.

Heres Hank
Oct 20, 2008

Practical Demon posted:


This isn't entirely idiotic, as they're in the middle of a jungle, and a wild pig is drat hard to catch. What's insanely stupid about the scene is that Blackbeard and every man with him has a gun. Guns that are loaded and have been shown to us constantly. And the pig is all of twenty feet away. So, you know...tension, I guess.

Haven't seen the movie and probably wouldn't want to defend it, but to a smooth bore pistol, a pig-sized moving target at 20 feet is like trying to shoot a housefly.

Robzor McFabulous
Jan 31, 2011

Mans posted:

In the Human Centipede II...

The movie is a massive head ache, specially the last half hour (it was the first time i had to stop a movie because i was feeling physically sick.), but the way he kept doing it over and over and over, it was like the movie was parodying itself.

Just saw it. I can stomach a lot, but I was close to fully looking away at certain points, which says a lot about how far they push it. And yeah, you're completely right, all those people who'd been shot, bludgeoned and left in a filthy room with no food for at least a couple of days (for some of them) should've been dead or dying long before all the amateur surgery.

Oh, and the bit with the baby? gently caress EVERYTHING about that.

Kimmalah
Nov 14, 2005

Basically just a baby in a trenchcoat.


Heres Hank posted:

Haven't seen the movie and probably wouldn't want to defend it, but to a smooth bore pistol, a pig-sized moving target at 20 feet is like trying to shoot a housefly.

Not to mention the risk of the bullet/ball going so far off course it hits somebody in your merry band of pirates. And probably being a pain in the rear end to reload.

Of course the most likely explanation is that the filmmakers decided to just gloss over the possibility of shooting the pig.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Dissapointed Owl posted:

And yet, I'd much rather sit through Terminator 3 than that Christian Bale one. At least Terminator 3 was having fun.

This opinion has the power to irrationally irritate people btw.

I legitimately enjoyed Terminator 3. 4 was just watching a generic Christian Bale movie. But to answer the question, the only logical thing she can have wanted to do is to frighten the poo poo out of them.

It's not meant caused by damage because the part where her hand is broken and she adapts to the flamethrower is meant to be a major turning point/underline how advanced she is. It's also the first time she gets damaged in any meaningful way, and the way she looks at her hand is supposed to tell us she doesn't understand what's happened, but gently caress it, flamethrower time.

Nick Stahl was also an awesome John Connor, gently caress the haters.

warcake
Apr 10, 2010
Just the racing scenes in the fast and furious films. They are already going flat out, but when they need to go faster they downshift AND put their foot down? Really? Do you own a car? Do you know how it works?

Don't get me started on danger to manifold.

I need to stop watching these films they are lovely.

redmercer
Sep 15, 2011

by Fistgrrl

warcake posted:

Just the racing scenes in the fast and furious films. They are already going flat out, but when they need to go faster they downshift AND put their foot down? Really? Do you own a car? Do you know how it works?

Don't get me started on danger to manifold.

I need to stop watching these films they are lovely.

How many times did you piss on that particular electric fence?

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

NaturalLow posted:

Not to mention the risk of the bullet/ball going so far off course it hits somebody in your merry band of pirates. And probably being a pain in the rear end to reload.

Of course the most likely explanation is that the filmmakers decided to just gloss over the possibility of shooting the pig.

This isn't the sort of movie looking for realism in firearms. Most of Hollywood treats any gun of any era like it has the capabilities of a modern weapon, anyhow.

There are just so many dumb and confusing things in the movie. Jack eludes to having been to the Fountain before, but has no idea about the ritual necessary to use it or anything else surrounding it. Penelope Cruz's character actually has to explain the entire thing with the cups to him. Then they look at him expectantly when they get there, and are somehow surprised when he doesn't know what to do. Despite having had to tell him about the ritual once already.

Characters constantly just do what they have to because of the plot with no logic or motivation. The mermaid Serena immediately leaves her very bland love interest when he frees her to get to the Fountain and retrieve the cups for Jack. Except she had no idea what was happening in the Fountain, has no reason to help Jack, and apparently wanted nothing more than to be with the guy she just left with a gaping stomach wound. At the end of the film, we see her take the dying guy underwater with her and swim away, and...that's it. No idea if he lived, or how he wouldn't have drowned, or what the hell happened.

Also, mermaids can grow legs when out of the water, apparently. And no one is surprised by it or mentions it, despite having carried her several miles inland in a big tank before that. Then she doesn't even do anything with her newly acquired appendages. She can't walk, so the shirtless love interest carries her. And next thing you know, she's back in the water with a tail again. The gently caress was the point of giving her legs?

warcake
Apr 10, 2010

redmercer posted:

How many times did you piss on that particular electric fence?

I don't know remind me, 6? :(

Also in the last film Paul Walker pretending to be poor with an early skyline.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Dissapointed Owl posted:

And yet, I'd much rather sit through Terminator 3 than that Christian Bale one. At least Terminator 3 was having fun.

I heven't even watched Terminator 4, because I'm so disappointed that The Sarah Connor Chronicles got cancelled and retconned out of existence. I enjoyed T3 though.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
From Jurassic Park, Timmy could very clearly and easily fit through the gaps in the electric fence. It would have been tight but possible for Lex too, I think.

Doctor Krieger
Apr 8, 2007

...because these corporate bag-munchers owe me $630 for my GODDAMN FLEX ACCOUNT!

Supreme Allah posted:

From Jurassic Park, Timmy could very clearly and easily fit through the gaps in the electric fence. It would have been tight but possible for Lex too, I think.



Perhaps an unfortunate choice of picture.



Dr. Grant: Stop whining, Tommy, those holes are big enough to climb through!

*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*

*THUNK!*

[beat]

Dr. Grant: Well, your brother's toast but I bet YOU could fit through. Possibly.

KillRoy
Dec 28, 2004
I many not go down in history but I'll go down on you sister.
Se7en:

What was John Doe's backup plan if the detectives assigned to his case didn't have a wife? Or what if the detective hated his wife? I like to think he had an "envy" and "Wrath" murders stowed away somewhere just in case his little box trick didn't work.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Speaking of Terminators, one part of the third really had me raising my brow. When John wanted to go to the headquarters where Skynet was going to come online, Arnie refused because the future was impossible to change. And so they spent forever arguing about this, and then finally decided to go. And it looked to me like.. They were basically one minute too late to stop it? :raise: So was it just me, or wouldn't they have had a chance to nip this thing in the bud if their starring robot hadn't have been so stubborn?

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

Doctor Krieger posted:

Perhaps an unfortunate choice of picture.


Nope, it's not, because it clearly shows that little piece of crap can fit through those gaps.

Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

Midnight Raider posted:

Speaking of Terminators, one part of the third really had me raising my brow. When John wanted to go to the headquarters where Skynet was going to come online, Arnie refused because the future was impossible to change. And so they spent forever arguing about this, and then finally decided to go. And it looked to me like.. They were basically one minute too late to stop it? :raise: So was it just me, or wouldn't they have had a chance to nip this thing in the bud if their starring robot hadn't have been so stubborn?

Arnie was a double agent. The T-1001 didn't know. Skynet sent both of them back. The Resistance doesn't actually exist, not in any real sense, Skynet leaves poorly guarded weapons caches sitting around from time to time, and sometimes lets them capture a robot and "reprogram" it. Skynet just likes to see what they do, like a cat playing with a mouse.

Skynet likes to gently caress with people.

Crystal Lake Witch
Apr 25, 2010


KillRoy posted:

Se7en:

What was John Doe's backup plan if the detectives assigned to his case didn't have a wife? Or what if the detective hated his wife? I like to think he had an "envy" and "Wrath" murders stowed away somewhere just in case his little box trick didn't work.

I'm pretty sure the point was that he was able to size Pitt up enough to know it would work, and that's why he did it?

Haven't seen the movie in a while, but I thought Doe was meant to be kind of a genius in his ability to read people?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

ChiaPetOutletStore posted:

I'm pretty sure the point was that he was able to size Pitt up enough to know it would work, and that's why he did it?

Haven't seen the movie in a while, but I thought Doe was meant to be kind of a genius in his ability to read people?

He would have found other victims. It could of been a cop or it could of been a normal person

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

bobkatt013 posted:

He would have found other victims. It could of been a cop or it could of been a normal person

Yeah Doe was picking victims as he went along, when this detective comes around he gets an idea to make the pay off even sweeter. If he hadn't had Brad Pitt he would have done some random schmuck like he'd been doing all along anyway.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

Midnight Raider posted:

Speaking of Terminators, one part of the third really had me raising my brow. When John wanted to go to the headquarters where Skynet was going to come online, Arnie refused because the future was impossible to change. And so they spent forever arguing about this, and then finally decided to go. And it looked to me like.. They were basically one minute too late to stop it? :raise: So was it just me, or wouldn't they have had a chance to nip this thing in the bud if their starring robot hadn't have been so stubborn?

The ending narration says that there was no Ground Zero for Skynet taking over. It had wormed its way into millions of computer systems via the Internet and there was no real way to stop it by shooting a few servers. I don't know why he didn't explain that instead of arguing a moot point but Arnie was basically leading John to a place that would be relatively protected during the nuclear fallout.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Razorwired posted:

The ending narration says that there was no Ground Zero for Skynet taking over. It had wormed its way into millions of computer systems via the Internet and there was no real way to stop it by shooting a few servers. I don't know why he didn't explain that instead of arguing a moot point but Arnie was basically leading John to a place that would be relatively protected during the nuclear fallout.

Basically, yeah; Skynet had already been 'sentient' for a while, the military jackasses just connected it to the software that let it take control of said military hardware and all the nukes :downs: Arnold-Terminator was deliberately lying to John and whatshername to get them into the fallout shelter; There was no stopping Judgement Day, there never was. His job was to ensure John survived to become the leader of the Resistance so he could eventually stop Skynet for realsies. Which John eventually does: The Terminator sent back to help him is a more advanced infiltration model, deliberately chosen because it looked like the T2 Terminator who saved him, which succeeded in killing him just before Skynet was destroyed. After killing him it was caught, reprogrammed, and sent back. "We'll meet again", indeed.

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syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
In Goonies, where Chunk has to do the Truffle Shuffle to gain entrance to the Walsh's house and they activate the Rube Goldberg device to open the little gate.

The balloon pops to scare the hen into laying an egg I can sort of buy, but hens lay eggs whenever they feel like it, usually on a 24 hour basis or something, but assuming this complicated to reset device isn't used on a daily basis the hen will still lay the egg on her own time keying the rest of the sequence and opening the gate. It's like this movie is a live action cartoon for little kids or something. :argh:

Annoying preppies could get in, or Fratellis, or unscrupulous land developers. Don't put living creatures in your Rube Goldberg devices if you want to be taken seriously folks, they're unpredictable.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Really the big question in terminator is why fate is so arbitrary. In Terminator 2 the future is what we make it. In Terminator 3 we can't avoid judgement day. So which is it?

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

JustFrakkingDoIt posted:

In Goonies, where Chunk has to do the Truffle Shuffle to gain entrance to the Walsh's house and they activate the Rube Goldberg device to open the little gate.

The balloon pops to scare the hen into laying an egg I can sort of buy, but hens lay eggs whenever they feel like it, usually on a 24 hour basis or something, but assuming this complicated to reset device isn't used on a daily basis the hen will still lay the egg on her own time keying the rest of the sequence and opening the gate. It's like this movie is a live action cartoon for little kids or something. :argh:

Annoying preppies could get in, or Fratellis, or unscrupulous land developers. Don't put living creatures in your Rube Goldberg devices if you want to be taken seriously folks, they're unpredictable.

I'm irrationally irritated that Rube Goldberg machines aren't in every kid movie anymore.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

KillRoy posted:

Se7en:

What was John Doe's backup plan if the detectives assigned to his case didn't have a wife? Or what if the detective hated his wife? I like to think he had an "envy" and "Wrath" murders stowed away somewhere just in case his little box trick didn't work.

The plan with the detective and his wife was the back-up plan. John Doe even says as much. He didn't expect the police to find his place, so he had to "improvise" for the last few murders. The first four were anything but improvised, but the last three were a child of necessity since he didn't have his resources anymore.

Which begs the question what his original plan was. The one he would have carried out if his place hadn't been busted.

gobboboy
Jun 5, 2006

The pride of PITR

RagnarokAngel posted:

Really the big question in terminator is why fate is so arbitrary. In Terminator 2 the future is what we make it. In Terminator 3 we can't avoid judgement day. So which is it?

Humans believe that fate is what you make. Machines think logically that if they came back, clearly they are going to be sent back so therefore nothing is going to change.

Real answer: Bad writing.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Razorwired posted:

The ending narration says that there was no Ground Zero for Skynet taking over. It had wormed its way into millions of computer systems via the Internet and there was no real way to stop it by shooting a few servers. I don't know why he didn't explain that instead of arguing a moot point but Arnie was basically leading John to a place that would be relatively protected during the nuclear fallout.

This. They wouldn't have gone if they thought they could do more - they know that they're going to want to try and stop Judgement Day, but Kate's father tells them to go to Crystal Peak because he knows it will be safe there. I think he knew what was happening and what it meant, and the T1001 was happy to lead them there.

Also, the answer is: Whatever enables a sequel.

BastardAus
Jun 3, 2003
Chunder from Down Under
I guess it's pretty petty it is but the animation sequence in Superman 2 where Zod and his crew escape from the Phantom Zone was utterly cheap and unbelievable and annoyed me every time I saw it. When I was six.

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story
We've talked a little about stock sounds. But the two that get me that I never see mentioned are this monster roar that was used in natural selection, and this sort of grunting snarl that was in Ultima Online and seems to always be used for alligator noises.

I was watching something the other day with robot, who's foot steps made the same sound a lot of games use for grenade bounces. It was horribly unnerving.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Re: Terminator 3 stuff, that makes sense then. Mostly.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Really the big question in terminator is why fate is so arbitrary. In Terminator 2 the future is what we make it. In Terminator 3 we can't avoid judgement day. So which is it?

This is probably my biggest problem with the series in general. I know they wanted to be able to do sequels after 2, but it would have been nice had they found a way to do so without making GBS threads all over T2's "No fate but what you make" and Arnie's sacrifice, T3 opposing that with bleak predestination/predeterminism.

I actually ended up liking Salvation more than T3, possibly if just because by then the cat was already out of the bag(Judgment day already happened, so whatever) and thus they weren't beating me over the head with the message of T2 not mattering.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The girl in Cliffhanger gave me a huge amount of nerves. How the hell can you let yourself be capture by someone piloting an helicopter? Yeah he drawed a pistol, so what? Was he going to chase you and shoot you down? Just turn around and go take a stroll, the dude would be helpless!

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Midnight Raider posted:

I actually ended up liking Salvation more than T3, possibly if just because by then the cat was already out of the bag(Judgment day already happened, so whatever) and thus they weren't beating me over the head with the message of T2 not mattering.

I find it best to think of T3 as everyone getting together and making Terminator! or whatever the Airplane! equivalent of it was. It's pretty quickly discarded as not being canon by T4 and The Sarah Connor Chronicles, but it's still my favourite one :(

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
How come in the 1st Matrix the machine sentinels are hugely threatening enemies which the humans have no counter for except the EMP, which is portrayed as a last ditch thing. In the sequels however all the ships have machine guns where they just mow down thousands of the sentinels. What gives?

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Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

How come in the 1st Matrix the machine sentinels are hugely threatening enemies which the humans have no counter for except the EMP, which is portrayed as a last ditch thing. In the sequels however all the ships have machine guns where they just mow down thousands of the sentinels. What gives?

More annoyingly, (for me anyways) why doesn't Zion have a huge-rear end EMP generator with a shielded power supply set to fire every ten seconds? They had to rely on one ship miraculously making it back and use its EMP to save the day. Why hasn't anybody thought of taking this wonderweapon (against which the machines have no defense at all) that they install in literally every ship they make and put one to defend, I don't know, literally the only city they have?

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