Alteisen posted:

Class descriptions ahoy.

Medic: Should be obvious, you heal others as much as you can, you have the fastest syringe recharge and your heals are more effective, as you level up your armor becomes much tougher than any other classes topping out at 75% its like having 2 life bars, even fleshpounds on Hell on Earth do 17 damage to your armor at level 6. and you can move faster.

Medic gun is your weapon, alt fire is a healing dart and normal fire is a machine gun that runs out way to fast, feather the trigger to maximize clips, good for headshotting clots and gores and killing crawlers but not much else.

Firebug: Set poo poo on fire, you get the flamethrower and the mac 10, firebug is one of the best classes in the game to kill trash mobs, one small flamethrower stream and you got a mountain of dead zeds, again feathering the trigger works best to maximize ammo. At higher levels you get more ammo capacity, more damage with the fire and immunity to fire, both yours and the one from husks. At level 3 and above your grenades become fire grenades, this lets you toss them at your feet and you won't kill yourself.

Commando: Another great trash mob killer and has absurd ammo capacity at higher levels, also reloads any gun he's holding faster than any class, the main 2 things his perk brings to the table are the ability to see enemy lifebars and the ability to see stalkers when cloaked, he can see the cloaked patriarch, higher levels gives you more capacity, more damage and you view cloaked/lifebars from further and further away, you also have less recoil. His weapons are the bullpup(highest ammo capacity, low damage), AK-47(middle of the road in terms of stats and capacity) and the Scar(low clip size but most damage). Generally I roll with the pup and scar, you can also set their weapons to single fire and snipe very effectively.

Generally you can to keep these 3 classes away from the scrakes and fleshpounds, they just can't kill them fast enough and just piss off, the firebug CAN stop the FP rage in progress though.

Anyway moving on.

Sharpshooter: Snipez for your l33t mlg montages, they get multipliers to their headshot damage topping at 140%, I'm fairly certain that a headshot from a max level sharpshooter is the most damaging thing in the game.

Anyway that's basically their benefit, beyond that their pretty slow moving, this is a class that needs a good team to watch his back and let him handle the scrakes, fleshpounds and sirens from a distance so they don't hurt anyone.

Guns for them are, lever action rifle or LAR for short, low damage output but its so cheap for even non SS classes you'll end up using it a lot, just go for the head obviously, slow reload time.

EBR, its got a laser point and its semi auto, only 7 clips though at 20 bullets per, needs a steady aim.

Crossbow, highest damage output of all the sharpshooters weapons but also the heaviest meaning its just this and a handcannon/pistol, still the best weapon for them on the higher difficulties to deal with the heavies.

Handcannon, stronger pistol basically. The pistol is also a very deadly weapon in the sharpshooter's hands.

Demo: You blow poo poo up, its the most expensive class in the game also, like henkman says, use another class first then kit yourself in demo gear after you have enough money, even then its really hard to stay equipped, the key is to conserve your shots.

If there is one clot incoming, do not waste a shot of your launcher on it, if there's 5, go ahead and blast them, if there's a fleshpound coming, empty your entire launcher and hope it dies(don't do this on suicidal or HoE unless he's already stopped on a pipe, you'll be left reloading and he'll be very upset with you.)

Basically with demo you have to make every single shot count, he has very, very low ammo capacity and his ammo costs a fuckload. Anyway at higher levels you get more explosive damage and more resistance to explosive damage, demo is class in which you're gonna be hurting yourself a lot, you have to be very careful at low levels otherwise you're just gonna be blowing yourself up a lot.

Demo weapons are...

Single ammo grenade launcher(I don't know the actual name): One shot and reloading with this launcher.

M32 Launcher: Can fire 6 grenades before needing to reloading, problem is takes an eternity to reload it, generally you want to reload after every shot unless a situation calls for emptying an entire clip into something.

Pipebombs: The most expensive thing in the game but also the most destructive, generally you want to toss them at chokepoints or in the path of a fleshpound but watch out for sirens, they can disable them. Again be careful with where you place them, if one goes off and you're near you will die regardless of your demo level.

Demo is like sharpshooter, good in the back and should not be in the front, just don't get to trigger happy, grenades explosions cause a lot of smoke and seeing an angry fleshpound run out of that cloud of smoke is only funny when the he isn't aiming for you(he usually is.)

Support specialist: SHOTGUNS, nobody can pull off heaps of damage up close better than a support specialist, the alt fire with the hunting shotgun at point blank rage is absurdly damaging, you can also weld and unweld faster than any other class, in some maps like office for example, holding the back door is the only way to survive on the higher difficulties, this where the support truly shines, unless there's a fleshpound behind the door, the support can hold it.

Support works well in any role really thanks to his amazing damage output. His weapons are...

Shotgun: Normal shotgun, medium spread and pellets.

Hunting shotgun: Highest spread and most pellets so you need to be in the face of whatever it is you're shooting for maximum damage output.

AA12: Semi auto, fire fast, tightest spread but least amount of pellets, still an amazing gun, my set proffered set up is AA12 and hunting.

Supports can handle any zed on their own, they can also carry the most out of any class including up to 11 grenades but generally you can't carry 2 shotguns till you're at least level 3. As you level you can weld/unweld faster, carry more poo poo and do more damage.

Berzerker: My favorite class and probably the toughest to use, totally melee based and in a game where every single enemy is melee based outside of husks you can see how this can be very dangerous, if you're gonna be a berzerker you need intimate knowledge of how every zed in the game attacks and ways to stun them, you also need to watch out for their audio cues so you know what's near or behind you, you need to be very self aware when playing berserker otherwise you'll get hit from the back a lot. Most of the time you'll be fighting alone simply because you outpace every other class, in huge open maps the berserker is king, they can also tank very effectively, I've won a few HoE games by planting my rear end in a doorway and a good team at my back and just not letting anything pass. A medic is must for this of course.

Zerker has a variety of weapons but not all of them useful.

Machete: A bigger knife, pretty much useless.

Axe: Cheap and incredibly damaging but swings slow, this weapon is crucial on Suicidal and Hell on Earth against scrakes and a must for soloing fleshpounds.

Katana: Swings fast, does great damage, its their main and probably best weapon.

Chainsaw: Does great damage but it slows you down which isn't good for a zerker, generally not worth it but its key to the most fun way to kill the patriarch.

That's basically it, at higher levels you gain more damage resistance topping out at 40%, damage to ALL resistance including siren screams, you also gain drat near immunity to bloat bile and you run faster.

The bane of your existence will be crawlers, its like they just focus on you for daring to be the melee based class, generally you want to have a back up weapon, I prefer the lever action rifle, if you have to deal with them up close, bait them into jumping and then kill them, takes a bit practice. Generally the zerker can handle anything in the right hands but again, you HAVE to know how every in the game works and sounds.

One note with this class which I see people do way to often, YOU ARE NOT INVULNERABLE, you just take less damage but you can just like any other shmuck, far to many rookie zerkers just run into a giant group then get pissed when they die. If you see 10 clots, 7 gorefasts and 2 husks, don't jump in the middle of that, you will die, smoldering and slashed to bits, assess first then go forth and slash.

Note I'd like to make since I didn't feel like writing them on all the classes, the more you level the cheaper your class weapon or any equipment gets a benefit too, for example the medic's armor is cheaper and grenades are cheaper for a demo.

Also when you reach levels 5 and 6 for any class you spawn with a weapon of that class or in the case of medic, with body armor, some classes start with 2 things, for example a level 6 zerker spawns with body armor and a chainsaw, a medic with a medic gun and body armor, a demo with a launcher and 2 pipebombs.

And don't forget, almost every weapon has an alternate fire, double barrels with the hunting, katana sword swing that stuns most things, sometimes the alt fire just switches your gun from full auto to semi, that kind of poo poo, explore, use, discover, etc.

On Hell on Earth you just spawn with your weapon though.

Well this is stupidly long and took me way to long to type but I hope someone reads it and picks out a class and has buttloads of fun.

Now for a friendly glossary to explain enemy terms!

Clots: First enemy you fight, whitish guys, they can hold you in place, easy alone but very dangerous in groups as the damage can really add up, plus you're a sitting duck.

Gorefasts: Reddish guys with a blade on their arm, fast as gently caress and kill you very quickly if you're not careful, fragile though, think of them as improved clots.

Stalkers: Invisible bitches.

Sirens: Really loud skinny bitches, they can bypass your armor and hurt your health, groups of them can completely obliterate an entire team.

Crawlers: Small annoying pests that blend in on dark maps way to loving well.

Husks: Long range guys and have decent stamina, generally they blast you from afar while approaching.

Bloats: Fat dudes that vomit on you when you get close, can get dangerous up close since the damage lingers.

Scrakes: Big chainsaw guys, very dangerous, after they take a certain amount of damage they run fast and focus on someone and cut them to shreds, otherwise they walk slowly toward you.

Fleshpounds: Big huge fuckers with a light on their chest, if you see one of these things, warn your team by typing FP, do not shoot it with a pistol, do not poke it with your knife, let the classes that can handle take him out before he hurts someone, if the light on his chest turns red he gains resistance to damage and whomever he hits is going to take a gently caress load of damage, he also completely obliterate any zed standing in his way to his target. Jump backwards just he before he hits to lower at least part of the damage he can do.

The Patriarch: Done with all 10 waves? Yay you, now you get to fight this rear end in a top hat, he has a chaingun, rockets and can do absurd damage up close, his chaingun will rip you to pieces and his rocket is an instant kill if its a direct hit, even the splash damage from it is pretty severe, the only class that can take a rocket to the face and still live is demo and I think medic. He cloaks and moves really fast, obviously requires a buttload of firepower to kill, generally you want to fight him in medium sized space where he can't rip you up with his chaingun or toss a rocket at you. Oh yea he can also run away and heal, this is a bad thing.

He can be taken down super easy with a coordinated team though, with chainsaws, 6 berserker, 6 chainsaws, let him show up then surround him and hold alt down fire with those chainsaw, he'll die in about 4 seconds with nobody dead.

Scyantific posted:

ANOTHER WALL OF TEXT

Beginner tips:
1.DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT, FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING YOU CONSIDER HOLY, RUN IMMEDIATELY TO THE HARD/SUICIDAL/HELL ON EARTH MAPS AS ANY LEVEL 0 CLASS THINKING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HARD.
YOU WILL DIE. A LOT. AND YOU WILL PROBABLY STOP PLAYING THIS GAME (Which is good for the rest of us). ALWAYS START IN A BEGINNER/NORMAL SERVER, and move up to harder difficulties once you're a decently high level (minimum level 4 for hard, LEVEL 6 FOR HoE).

2. Always pick a class that is needed, not a class that the team already has. I can't begin to describe how pissed I get when I see some dumbass join in as a level 2 medic when there's already a level 6 medic keeping the team alive.

3. Don't be the team beggar, always asking for money and weapons. People WILL get annoyed, and if there's a kick option, they'll probably use it. Earn your share, or go medic and heal for a few rounds.

4. Don't start with a class that is dosh-dependent. You will struggle throughout the early rounds if you do. Pick a class that is low maintenance (Medic, Sharpshooter) and save your money. Once you have enough for a different class with some extra left over, then go ahead and swap out.

5. KNOW YOUR CLASS. This CANNOT be stressed enough, especially on difficulties that require TEAMWORK. Many times have I seen entire teams wipe because some idiot thought it would be nice to not play his class as intended and gently caress everything up for his team.

6. Don't be a douchebag. This involves sealing people out of areas, or blowing doors open when people are trying to seal them. It contributes to the loving up of things and people will hate you for it. Blow a door open only when you have no other options. This also includes joining a server and afk-ing just so everyone else has more mobs to deal with. Also, if a person dies, don't be an rear end in a top hat and sell their weapon just to make cash. Leave it for them, or grab it and carry it with you to the trader, where you can pass it to them, and maybe you can even re-fill it for them because they lose money after every death.

7. Stick with your team. Don't be the lone Rambo that goes out to face the mob of hungry zeds only to get eaten and then ragequit.

8. Ammunition conservation. This is especially important on classes that have low ammo reserves. ALWAYS RELOAD WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CLEAR. Nothing sucks more than running into a mob of zeds and dying because you ran out of ammo.

9. High level medics are good tanks for the tougher enemies in the later waves when they have their armor on. See that commando that's about to get eaten because he pissed that scrake off? Divert the scrake's attention by assaulting it yourself. Your armor is cheap and the commando will probably appreciate you saving his rear end.

10. A good class to hit level 6 first with is Sharpshooter. You ALWAYS spawn with a handgun and those headshot bonuses really help on in the first waves with ammo conservation and damage optimization. The other good class to max out first is Medic, since their armor (like Alteisen said), becomes GODLY at level 6. Do note, however, that a medic is only a good tank while his armor is in place. Once that armor is gone, a medic is weak as poo poo and will go down just like any other class.

11. Demomen, tossing your hand grenades then immediately swapping to a grenade launcher and shooting at the grenade detonates the undetonated frag grenade, as well as increases the explosion damage. You can also chain grenades by tossing them one after another. Do take note though, if you're close enough to the explosion, you can take some serious damage, even die. Learn to watch your distance.

Regarding the clot. ON HELL ON EARTH YOU CANNOT BREAK THEIR HOLD BY JUMPING BACK. YOU MUST KILL THEM BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOURSELF FREE. Another Hell On Earth change is that Headshots from the 9mm are SIGNIFICANTLY reduced (to 40% I believe).

Juanito posted:

Does anybody like playing with friendly fire on? Because it sure annoys the hell out of me. Always some idiot who either kills you, or runs in front of your gun when you're shooting.

Insert name here posted:

I prefer to play with it off; the only time I turn it in is when I play with this one guy I know who loves going Berserker and always somehow manages to run towards the zeds in a path that blocks my shots. Like I don't even think he does it on purpose he always just ends up perfectly in line between me and the zombies. After me and my friend telling him off several times and he would keep doing it I just whacked FF on and every time he does it now he gets mowed by a hail of bullets.

President Ark posted:

I don't think you understand the thought process of someone playing berserker:

Q) Are there zombies around?
Yes- Run towards them with a fireaxe.
No- Find some, then see above.

Things like "Where are my allies? Am I blocking their shots?" doesn't really factor into it.

Saint Freak posted:

Current-est Puzzle Piece for discussion/wild speculation:

Aliginge posted:

- no idea what that is in the bottom right. Hopefully it's a cannon.

lot of tacticlol stuff but goddamn, a claymore

Eikre posted:

Man, the revolver has me way more excited than I really should be. I roll crossbow/handcannon and even though though the meat-headed gratuity of desert eagles match the aesthetics of KF, a revolver would be loving tops. gently caress me, I hope it's a Webley. The frame doesn't look right for a top-break, but it's Britain! Here's hoping.

joneswt posted:

My copy of Killing Floor has been "unavailable" for the past couple of days? Anybody have any ideas on what is going wrong?

joneswt posted:

My copy of Killing Floor has been "unavailable" for the past couple of days? Anybody have any ideas on what is going wrong?

Deargodalion posted:

Did you try verifying the game cache.

joneswt posted:

Worked like a charm! Thanks!

Aliginge posted:

This genuine? As far as I can see:
- M1014 Auto shotty
- M4 + red dot
- MP5 w tac light
- M4 w Grenade Launcher
- Revolver of some description
- Claymore sword
- no idea what that is in the bottom right. Hopefully it's a cannon.

lot of tacticlol stuff but goddamn, a claymore

Orange Crush Rush posted:

FYI that crazy looking thing at the bottom is totally the Husk's arm cannon.

Scyantific posted:

Orange Crush Rush posted:

Also I really hope the Claymore is better then the Katana in everyway because you know what, gently caress Katanas.

ChickenHeart posted:

Honestly I'd love for Tripwire to go over all of the melee weapons in the game and balance them out a bit, so there could be some incentive to wield a machete or axe instead of Katanas all freakin' day. Maybe

_{Also make the knife throwable for beserkers}

Insert name here posted:

Add back the Knife animations they removed when they added a secondary attack to Machete and Fire-axe (one of the primary fire animations used to be a stab, and the secondary animation used to be your guy inverting the Knife in his hand and slashing across the screen).

Actually the melee weapons in the game don't feel very fun to use at all; there just isn't enough proper feedback IMO like when you slash a zombie it makes a really quiet hit sound and that's it. Compare to something like L4D2 where melee weapons feel totally .