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PopeOnARope posted:Yep, I did the exact same thing on Maple Valley earlier. The raptor really loves going on two wheels off of kerbs. The Raptor is absolutely terrifying on any track that contains curbs. I've never flipped so many times in one night before, loving hell. Jabs posted:Cubivore hit us with a SEAT Cupra on Camino Full Reverse last night, and it was pretty fun The Cupra SC is amazing and we should drive it more often. Maybe make a spec Cupra race or something. Just not for 5 laps of Road America next time. Also, I'd totally be down for these weekly endurance races, if only they didn't have sim damage. I loathe sim damage and think that it takes all the fun out of the game entirely; having the very real possibility of your car being wrecked and race being ruined on lap 1 because someone else hosed up just kills it for me. But I'm probably alone in thinking this so oh well. DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Dec 7, 2011 |
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Sent my request to join AUGR now that I'm finished with Skyrim. GT is XPrettypandaX. Hopefully there will be lobbies where cubivore isnt hosting so I don't have to use sim steering -.-
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Dec 7, 2011 15:53
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Jabs posted:We can't use those numbers exactly, because USTCC uses Wheel HP, and Forza reports Crank /Brake HP. It breaks some of the cars (they're underweight even with only Rollcage + Tires/wheels) poo poo. What was the old ratio for the Evo VIII? I hope I don't have to do any major work to it. I finally got it where I like it.
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Dec 7, 2011 16:09
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Irish Legend posted:I dont mind extreme, but depending on attendance, it's so big it's just going to turn into everyone hot lapping by themselves. The main turn I have problems with, especially with cold tires is the last cresting left hander before the finish line. The two downhill rights I do not really have to many concerns with. I guess it depends on the car, but the track seems pretty extreme compared to a lot of the ones in Forza. I was playing around on it last night, the last turn isn't problematic for me, but those two downhill turns near the beginning are pretty nasty, It's hard to find any middle ground between flying through the perfect driving line or losing all control and going sliding/flipping into the wall. Though I thought back to mountain biking, and how I like to brake way more on the front when I'm going around steep switchbacks. So I tuned my brakes according to mountain biking principles and it seems way more controllable now for extreme downhill turns (probably applies to that Japanese highway thing too)
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:poo poo. What was the old ratio for the Evo VIII? I hope I don't have to do any major work to it. I finally got it where I like it. Calculated AWD = 9.2 pounds/HP 2 liter engine * 1.4 (forced induction) makes it effectively a 2.8 liter. 2.8 > 2.5 liter, so add 0.2 pounds/HP for a total of 9.4x Fortuitous Bumble posted:I guess it depends on the car, but the track seems pretty extreme compared to a lot of the ones in Forza. I was playing around on it last night, the last turn isn't problematic for me, but those two downhill turns near the beginning are pretty nasty, It's hard to find any middle ground between flying through the perfect driving line or losing all control and going sliding/flipping into the wall. One of the cars I have tuned is the Celica. It weighs in someplace in the 21xx range, and runs 1:15's One of the cars I have tuned is the Taurus. It weighs in someplace in the 42xx range, and runs 1:15's Here's the issue I see. The Taurus is a loving bull - and I have to brake early and tiptoe through those two downhill righthanders, but I make up for it on the uphill straight, where I'm pushing 105 by the time I get to the top for that other technical lefthander before the S/F. The Celica is a ballet dancer - I can dive into those two corners and flick through them with relative ease, but after the turnaround, the Celica just has no oomph, and hits the top of the uphill doing only about 85-90 MPH. So, either way, my concern is the very real possibility that someone could make an otherwise trivial mistake (or just drive their car the way it demands to be driven) and get punted into a race-ending incident by some minor contact. (I like the cut of the December DLC's jib better) Logue: I agree that it's a possibility. I'm on the flip side of that coin, m'self. For most races, I'm so very thankful that I'm invincible, because I'm such a completely lovely driver. But once a week, for an hour, I love the poo poo out of racing where a mistake (even someone else's) could have real consequences. At the same time, that's also why it's a *season* - one bad race won't put you out of the running, and there's bonus points available for people who put some effort into making their car look awesome, so there's hope for lovely drivers, too. =) For the most part, though, knowing that Sim damage is on makes everyone more careful, more likely to give you the room you need, etc. It's also why I've tried to pick tracks that are a little more forgiving, in most cases. Kenny Rogers fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Dec 7, 2011 |
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Dec 7, 2011 17:50
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Jabs posted:The Evo's calc hasn't changed since that initial tweak last week when we found that using WHP as BHP broke half the cars. =) Alright. I think I'm still good, but I'll have to double check it tonight to make sure though. I hope that dashboard update doesn't gently caress me out of Live. So I don't have either DLC so far, but I've got enough points for one. I'm leaning towards December. Thoughts?
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Alright. I think I'm still good, but I'll have to double check it tonight to make sure though. I hope that dashboard update doesn't gently caress me out of Live. November has a few good cars, but December has a ton of awesome cars. If I didn't have Season Pass I would go for December. However, who knows what the January car pack will be... but if you wait for that you still wouldn't know what the February car pack would be... If you want to buy a pack right now, December would be my vote.
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Dec 7, 2011 18:27
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Definitely December. November was cool, but December is just pure fun. The Raptor is hilarious and the hillclimb car is a blast. Plus, Fiero!
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jadebullet posted:Maserati 300 is so much fun. I had the scariest launch ever today in a pubbie lobby with it. I was on the ring, 16th position at start. By the time we reached the first bend I was in 2nd. I love this car. I chose it for the '50s Roadster challenge on a whim and was grinning the entire time. First gear just keeps going forever. I went in to a corner about half way through the lap, hit the downshift paddle, and then was momentarily confused as to why it wasn't working. You can turn in a respectable lap time without even hitting second gear on whatever track that was. The Suzuki is probably the most disappointing in my mind. It's a crazy vehicle built for a crazy (in a good way) driver to drive it at 10/10ths, but that means that a less crazy driver who can't get to more than maybe 8/10ths of vehicle's potential at best constantly ends up understeering in to walls while trying to get one clean pass at a tight hillclimb for the rival challenge. That challenge is certainly going to be a one-and-done for me, I'm not doing it again unless I figure out what I'm doing wrong with that thing. I can handle insane vehicles that oversteer when you do it wrong, understeer just sucks. edit: djfooboo, I beat your S5 flying lap around Hockenheim from a standing start  . I can't find a map that has the same layout as used in that particular challenge, but I think it was the turn before the Mobil 1 Curve that got you. That one threw me off a few times before I got it right too.e2: Speaking of rival challenges, is there actually a reason why people seem to be intentionally failing miserably at these? When starting one that I haven't run before, inevitably the first "rival" has a 30+ minute dirty lap and often they veer off in to the wall within seconds of starting the race. Are people competing for the worst spot on the leaderboards or something? wolrah fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Dec 7, 2011 |
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Dec 7, 2011 20:21
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Hopefully I'll score another 4000 point M$ card for the holiday like last year and can just pick up a season pass. If I don't, I'll probably get December and just wait until something else catches my eye.
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Don't forget, you don't have to buy the whole pack, you can buy each car individually if only a handful are interesting to you.
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True. I had forgotten about that. Either way, I'll wait a few weeks and see if I come up with a big points card. I'm only 1680 away from the Season Pass, so I'll probably end up grabbing it.
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wolrah posted:edit: djfooboo, I beat your S5 flying lap around Hockenheim from a standing start Lol, I drive Hockenheim as little as possible. Not my fave.
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Dec 7, 2011 22:50
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The Fiero has tremendous lift off oversteer, with oversteer on corner exit. In real life that means you die, but it's so fun in Forza 4 
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wolrah posted:e2: Speaking of rival challenges, is there actually a reason why people seem to be intentionally failing miserably at these? When starting one that I haven't run before, inevitably the first "rival" has a 30+ minute dirty lap and often they veer off in to the wall within seconds of starting the race. Are people competing for the worst spot on the leaderboards or something?
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wolrah posted:
I definitely started off doing bad laps, like someone else said the best way to maximize your income from rivals is to win by fractions at a time and collecting a (eventually big) bounty each time. Unfortunately I've reached a point where I'm only competing against a handful of goons now, like Coldpie, Southpaw, Logue1 and Cubivore among others. Hopefully AUGR will increase rivals competition. Also gotta reask my question from earlier: What are the rivals events for this month?
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djfooboo posted:Lol, I drive Hockenheim as little as possible. Not my fave. Agreed there (though I liked this short version more than the longer one I've run way too much in Career). I just had to rib you a bit about it. Bentai posted:Some people are sandbagging events to poopsock money out of rivals mode. Doesn't the bounty scale with where your rival is on the leaderboards? I get the idea, but the bonus at the lower levels is so low that in the half hour they wasted setting that long time they could have run 4-6 regular races and earned a ton more in the same time. I sort of do the same while actually competing, if I'm going to beat my rival significantly and the bonus is good I'll sandbag the last few hundred feet to just barely win so I can do that a few more times, but the bonus at the level these people are at is hilariously small.
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For y'alls organized race things, how do you actually join them? I'm really bad at xbox live, I've only really done multiplayer on PC.
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Jabs posted:Logue: I agree that it's a possibility. I'm on the flip side of that coin, m'self. For most races, I'm so very thankful that I'm invincible, because I'm such a completely lovely driver. But once a week, for an hour, I love the poo poo out of racing where a mistake (even someone else's) could have real consequences. Are you responding to something I wrote? I never said anything about sim damage. That said, I am pro sim-everything.
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This is the RX8 for the USTCC car for the race this evening. Its not perfect, but I may clean up the paintjob for next weeks race.
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Dec 8, 2011 03:54
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Not gonna make it for tonight's race 
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Irish Legend posted:This is the RX8 for the USTCC car for the race this evening. Its not perfect, but I may clean up the paintjob for next weeks race. I made this my background.
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Irish Legend posted:This is the RX8 for the USTCC car for the race this evening. Its not perfect, but I may clean up the paintjob for next weeks race. This is really cool.
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Irish Legend posted:This is the RX8 for the USTCC car for the race this evening. Its not perfect, but I may clean up the paintjob for next weeks race. Jumping on the bandwagon saying this is awesome. It recalls the renown 787B just a bit too with the X. Plus added awesomness of deadmau5, rotor, and stormtrooper. Bravo Sir.
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Thanks for the comments guys, makes up for me getting stuck behind everyone on the inevitable first turn wreck, and considering I was at a 50 PI disadvantage, Ill take third I guess. I was catching those drat evo's at the end, just ran out of time.
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Irish Legend posted:Thanks for the comments guys, makes up for me getting stuck behind everyone on the inevitable first turn wreck, and considering I was at a 50 PI disadvantage, Ill take third I guess. I was catching those drat evo's at the end, just ran out of time. Hey man, I was the one who got the rear-end make-over. It was a great race though, you and Boaz started to catch up at the end and started making me nervous. I have to say, I really like the manditory pit-stop, I like having to choose a pit strategy.
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Logue posted:Are you responding to something I wrote? I never said anything about sim damage. That said, I am pro sim-everything. Cannot Find Server posted:Also, I'd totally be down for these weekly endurance races, if only they didn't have sim damage.
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The race was pretty fun. Most everyone had really cool paint schemes, though I just kind of slapped some numbers and logos on near the end because I had no clue what real ones looked like. I ended up a good bit behind everyone else, somewhat due to bad driving, but also my car decided to hurl itself off the straight for some reason around lap 4 or 5 and then I had a catastrophic feline attack in real life near the end. I'd definitely be up for having another go at it next week though. Cars facing in the wrong direction on turn 1: I believe Jabs car in green was hit as well but it weighs like 10000 pounds and just kept going  This is where my car decided to hurl itself into marker #2, I still can't figure out why it did that  We had a decent last place battle going for a while, I found out the RSX doesn't really do off-road 
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:The race was pretty fun. Most everyone had really cool paint schemes, though I just kind of slapped some numbers and logos on near the end because I had no clue what real ones looked like. I ended up a good bit behind everyone else, somewhat due to bad driving, but also my car decided to hurl itself off the straight for some reason around lap 4 or 5 and then I had a catastrophic feline attack in real life near the end. I'd definitely be up for having another go at it next week though. I'm assuming you have the replay saved? Can you put it up on your storefront and let me know your gamertag? I want to take some pictures of the action up front.
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T-Square posted:I'm assuming you have the replay saved? Can you put it up on your storefront and let me know your gamertag? I want to take some pictures of the action up front. It should be on my storefront under unrollloops
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:It should be on my storefront under unrollloops FB, I looked at the telemetry of your spin. Essentially, you almost completely unloaded ONLY the rear suspension coming over the crest near the S/F, and turned in to the left slightly. Recipe for disaster.  Tonight's results: code:code:Kenny Rogers fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Dec 8, 2011 |
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Yup, I was the EVO-X that decided to assfuck the car in front of me on the first corner. I was in the clear, putting on my brakes, worried about the car that was lagging out, and wouldn't you know it, suddenly the lag stops and there is a car right in front of me braking hard. (My brakes were good, but not good enough for sudden car spawning.) Anyway, I punted him, and was collected by a few cars and took engine damage. I pitted, passed two people on their pit stops, and did well for most of the race... until I damaged my engine while trying to go faster and missing a shift, which I didn't notice thanks to the tire meter I had up at the time. Anyway, thanks to that, jabs caught me, and I pitted, and got 2nd to last. Sadface. Still, a fun race despite the fact that it was pretty much a time trial for me after the fuckup in the first turn.
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So hey, for those of you who have the December DLC pack, what kind of Aero stuff can you do to the Fiero? The Raptor's lightbars and spare look loving killer, but does the Fiero get any goofy kits?
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Besides the standard Forza aero, the only other bits the Fiero gets are stuff to make it look like a non-GT 88 Fiero. Spoiler delete, nose piece without the airdam (looks more like a Firebird).
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Rickets posted:Can you not just buy it now? I just picked up the season pass last week and the November DLC showed up as free. I already bought the November DLC.
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Made the horrible mistake of wandering into the official forums and learned two things: 1. If you have the Fanatec wheel, setting your linearity to 50 is the golden number to achieve proper linearity in sim steering. 2. People are actually bitching about the December car pack, claiming, horrifyingly, that the Raptor is the only interesting car in the pack. Philistines.
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The End posted:1. If you have the Fanatec wheel, setting your linearity to 50 is the golden number to achieve proper linearity in sim steering. This isn't true. The on-wheel linearity setting is screwy and more or less makes a massive deadzone. The curve Forza uses to gently caress up the sensitivity and the curve the wheel uses to change the linearity aren't the same/opposite.
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Penis Colada posted:This isn't true. The on-wheel linearity setting is screwy and more or less makes a massive deadzone. The curve Forza uses to gently caress up the sensitivity and the curve the wheel uses to change the linearity aren't the same/opposite. drat. Here I thought I was sharing some useful info How could Turn 10 gently caress this up? They aren't the sort of developer who make blunders like this normally.
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As with all front-engined cars, braking while turning can be disastrous because of the weight transition to the front axles under braking. Your rear end is going to slide the gently caress out, so you need to power out of it and accelerate (not what you'd be inclined to do, and you might just understeer to death anyway). So I'm not surprised about that RSX spinning out... incidentally that's also what my colleague did to his very own real RSX in a corner once!  Also, lul, backseat Internet driving.
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