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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:House of Chains does the same thing. You have no loving clue who Karsa Orlong is for a large part of the book. Maybe two thirds through do you realize he's Toblakai from Deadhouse Gates and the entire book is just to further expound upon how awesome Conan the Barbarian is. Gruntle in the house that was packed with so many corpses it bulged outward was badass.
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I'm pretty sure all this series needs is an editor who refuses to accept that an entire book full of treading water and postponing the siege of Winterfell for five years is a good idea. Somebodys gotta get that fat poo poo on task.
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Dec 14, 2011 08:25
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bigmcgaffney posted:True, except that Midnight Tides ends up rocking. The book thats begins the sucking is actually the book in the same setting in the first one (Toll The Hounds blows). Unless you thought the first one was a shitheap, then that one begins the sucking. That's kind of the point, the Malazan example works because he stops the action, focuses on a new set of characters and takes the time to develop them so that you identify with them. These last two Gurm books might have been better if he divided them by geographic proximity rather than however he did it.
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NovemberMike posted:That's kind of the point, the Malazan example works because he stops the action, focuses on a new set of characters and takes the time to develop them so that you identify with them. These last two Gurm books might have been better if he divided them by geographic proximity rather than however he did it. Actually I think the theory, at least in AFFC, was that he was dividing them by geographic proximity. It fell apart by the time ADWD came around, but welp.
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NovemberMike posted:These last two Gurm books might have been better if he divided them by geographic proximity rather than however he did it. That is what he did. He just also included stuff from the South once the timeline in Dance had gone past that of Feast.
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Dec 14, 2011 13:52
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So he didn't split by geography at all, you're saying.
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Dec 14, 2011 14:13
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I have lots of experience having sex with a redhead and I can tell you that shadow babies do not come out of their vagina. Real babys do. I was as shocked as you are right now.
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Dec 14, 2011 14:49
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Between this and the ruby thing i don't know what to believe any more, next you all are going to tell me that lemoncakes do not heal the mental scars of rape or that Theon was castrated. Yes, gelding chat is back!
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Dec 14, 2011 15:20
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*~*~ =^_^= My Daario =^_^= ~*~*
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Dec 14, 2011 15:29
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I should really go back and figure out just how many chapters were wasted pining for Daario. It wasn't even that bad in a vacuum, but it felt like it dragged out way too long for what we all knew it was-- a young and somewhat inexperienced/naive girl being led around the nose by a dashing roguish-type. Anyone who isn't a teenage girl could see that, I think. Considering how GRRM will loving rush through the whole "kidnap Myrcella plot" in 1-2 chapters, which is a far more exciting story and could actually get us invested in Dornish wunderkinds like Darkstar, it strikes me as something I should quantify.
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Dec 14, 2011 19:59
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I always got the impression Daario longed for Dany just as much as she did for him; he was just more macho and less sappy about it, which makes sense since he isn't a teenage girl like she is.
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Dec 14, 2011 22:06
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Joramun posted:I always got the impression Daario longed for Dany just as much as she did for him; he was just more macho and less sappy about it, which makes sense since he isn't a teenage girl like she is. It just makes him more of a pedophile.
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Dec 14, 2011 22:16
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I always got the impression that impression that any feelings Daario had to Dany were muddled in with the fact that, well... he gets to bone a hot nubile queen and gain considerable influence over a major city in his part of the world.
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Dec 14, 2011 22:53
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I don't think he gives two shits about her beyond that.
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Dec 14, 2011 23:38
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It doesn't matter if he gives two shits about her if the reader can't be made to give a single poo poo about either of them.
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Dec 15, 2011 00:29
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IRQ posted:I don't think he gives two shits about her beyond that. I think he wants to be near Dany, because that would mean he'd be close to his true love: ~*Belwas*~
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Fog Tripper posted:I think he wants to be near Dany, because that would mean he'd be close to his true love: ~*Belwas*~ Which is sad for him, as Strong Belwas has eyes only for ~~HoNeYeD LoCuStS~~. The target of the poisoning, carried out by Daario, was the locusts.
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Dec 15, 2011 00:40
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So sad ~daario~'s plague corpse was thrown over the walls. Maybe he and Strong Belwas will be together and hang out with Ned in the afterlife.
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ZearothK posted:So sad ~daario~'s plague corpse was thrown over the walls. Maybe he and Strong Belwas will be together and hang out with Ned in the afterlife. Stop this heretical talk, Daario now runs the Yunkish camp, and Belwas survived.
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Dec 15, 2011 00:55
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basx posted:It doesn't matter if he gives two shits about her if the reader can't be made to give a single poo poo about either of them. It's okay, Dany gives more than enough shits for Daario, and the reader. Foul, disgusting shits spattered out upon the Dothraki sea.
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Dec 15, 2011 01:48
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bigmcgaffney posted:It just makes him more of a pedophile. Can we go ahead and just sort of dive into cultural relativism vis-a-vis fantasy worlds
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Dec 15, 2011 06:54
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Hi Im a boy and im re-reading these books, fat author man likes to explain the same thing many times even from the same POV it was mentioned in quite some time ago okay im sad bye.
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Dec 15, 2011 06:57
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Vertigus posted:Can we go ahead and just sort of dive into cultural relativism vis-a-vis fantasy worlds Nah, don't really want to get into Sansa/Sandor right now
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Dec 15, 2011 07:49
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Yeah Man posted:I'm just saying there's no reason to say nasty things in the first place. I feel that I said enough good things to people about this series in the first decade of its existence. As Penance for each soul I have dragged into this horrible never ending cock tease series, I must say 1000 Hail Fatties. PS: He is fat. SteepleJack posted:Just be optimistic. He's starting Winds of Winter in a month. Serious? SteepleJack posted:EDIT: PS he owes you nothing. It's your problem and yours alone if you don't enjoy what he's putting out. Wrong. He owes me some motherfucking books. SteepleJack posted:I'm outta here, though. This whole thread doesn't seem constructive. oh, you'll be back. They always come back. batomys posted:mind the walrus posted:GRRM's version of the Hungry Little Caterpillar Thanks for these. crimson and clover Hodor hodor hodor
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Dec 15, 2011 10:53
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Anyone done a book-by-book word count on "Hodor?" Just curious.
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Noted Literally posted:Which is sad for him, as Strong Belwas has eyes only for ~~HoNeYeD LoCuStS~~. The target of the poisoning, carried out by Daario, was the locusts. You know nothing, Noted Literally. "~~HoNeYeD LoCuSt~~" = ~~Daario's~~ penis.
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Dec 15, 2011 18:01
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How did I miss the Hungry Caterpillar? Its amazing.
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Arms_Akimbo posted:I'm pretty sure all this series needs is an editor who refuses to accept that an entire book full of treading water and postponing the siege of Winterfell for five years is a good idea. Somebodys gotta get that fat poo poo on task. Feast and Dance did feel less like cohesive books and more like a collection of serialized chapters. I hope he finds writing WoW more fun than the last two, even he seems to think that the last two books covered a part of the story that wasn't very eventful. side_burned fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Dec 16, 2011 |
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I finally decided I was going to make it all the way through these stupid books and I've made it farther than ever before this time, but A Dance With Dragons might do me in. A whole book full of characters I either hate or have been made stupid - yippie! Why does it take so loving long for him to get to the drat point?
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Dec 16, 2011 02:52
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I liked Barristan I dunno.
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Dec 16, 2011 03:29
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I haven't gotten that far, just slogging my way through another Dany chapter after Tyrion was so unpleasant as to be out of character and Jon was dull. Are there more interesting people coming up?
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Dec 16, 2011 03:31
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side_burned posted:Feast and Dance did feel less like cohesive books and more like a collection of serialized chapters. I hope he finds writing WoW more fun than the last two, even he seems to think that the last two books covered a part of the story that wasn't very eventful. Killing the 5-year gap was probably the worst thing that could have been done, in terms of poo poo happening. Ugh.
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neongrey posted:in terms of poo poo happening. Ugh. I see what you did there. 
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Shhhhhit berrrrieessss, poo poo berries baby Shhhhhit berrrrriiesssss, can you come out toooonight... Still stuck in my drat head
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Dec 16, 2011 05:06
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Niccy Bones posted:I liked Barristan I dunno. I liked him too.
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Dec 16, 2011 05:10
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Yo Sandor Clegane is still alive, right I'm pretty sure GRRM was careful to have the island wizard priest say that The Hound had "moved on" or something vague
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Dec 16, 2011 05:48
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It actually is to GRRM's credit that the monk on the island stuck out immediately and thoroughly to me as the Hound.
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Sophia posted:I haven't gotten that far, just slogging my way through another Dany chapter after Tyrion was so unpleasant as to be out of character and Jon was dull. Are there more interesting people coming up? Well, Daario has a blue moustache, Jon Connington might be gay, umm... Victarion is cool in this book? I don't even remember who is in the beginning anymore. Edit: Theons chapters are pretty good.
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Vertigus posted:Yo Sandor Clegane is still alive, right He said something like "the hound died" and then a guy matching his exact physical description is pointed out
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bigmcgaffney posted:I don't even remember who is in the beginning anymore. A wildling shapeshifter guy who sees the others and pretty much nothing else. Pretty weak!
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