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Inflation is out of control and must be brought in hand. Without wisdom dictating our monetary policy, how can we ensure our nation stays great?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:52 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 16:26 |
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Wiz posted:In exchange, it unlocks the Nationalism CB (which lets us take Turkic culture provinces held by non-Turkic culture countries) Anyway, going to vote for A since Allah hates interest. And yeees, burn Armenia burn.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:56 |
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Turkic group:code:
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:57 |
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An awesome update! I love the new sultan. Spending his nights discussing with philosophers and wise men? Hell yes. It's obvious that the constitutional monarchy is the way to go. The shura has hoarded Azeri power long enough! It's a tough choice between A and B, but I figure A will be what benefits us the most in the long run, so;
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 11:59 |
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Wiz posted:
Time to add another name to that list, I think. Also, I keep looking over at the maps of our new territories. So drat satisfying.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:04 |
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I love Azerbaijan. Although our borders aren't particularly nice now. As for the legislation: What on earth are Smithian economics? Is that guy even born yet? Plenty of time to revolutionise our economy in the future - for now, it needs the stabilising influence of the national bank.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:04 |
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Improve our economy, and we need not mint as much as we do now. Smithian economics can tackle our inflations problems as well as improve our economic situation.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:05 |
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John Charity Spring posted:I love Azerbaijan. Although our borders aren't particularly nice now. I was wondering who'd be the first to rip on me about the borders. Armenia moved their capital to Cyprus, so hopefully I'll get a mission to take Adana and clean them up.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:09 |
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YF-23 posted:
I barely mint for the most part. It was that war against Armenia that forced me to mint a lot to pay for mercenaries and maintain things at 30 war exhaustion. I think I got 5 or 6 inflation from that war.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:10 |
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Mo' money, fewer problems.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:11 |
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At any rate The Azerbaijan also rises! Russia's got good reason to be scared of our expansion, if we take the right provinces we can take control of the strait into the black sea and strangle Russia's trade! The only problem with our situation is how close persia is coming to stopping our expansion down the coast towards jerusalem and our ancestral territories in egypt. What is that large purple nation down there anyway? LordBaxter fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:13 |
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LordBaxter posted:Vetting might be nice to take from a story perspective because we seem to get a lot of corruption-related events, which I'm assuming wiz has tied to whether a country has vetting or not. Wiz's flavor text for vetting made it sound like it takes down an authoritarian path, too.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:15 |
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Edit: changed vote. The Narrator fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:27 |
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:30 |
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The Narrator posted:
Wiz posted:Turkic group: Oh, and does Armenia only have a single Armenian-cultured province left now?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:41 |
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Adana and Cyprus are both Armenian. They may have one or two more.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:46 |
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Out of curiosity, Wiz: how has Ikko-Ikki changed since the start? In terms of sliders, NIs, and tech, how would you characterize their society at this point? I'm really intrigued by the idea of a peasant/religious rebellion establishing a stable and successful government and how it would evolve over hundreds of years of expansion against the more traditional daiymos. Speaking of, how does Date fit into the whole shogun/daiymo/emperor scheme? Has that basically collapsed?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:58 |
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We'd be crackers not to go with . Wiz, out of interest () how many loans do we have out, if any?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 12:59 |
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I never let inflation go above 5 if I can help it. 16 is an abomination.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:07 |
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gonna keep voting for this untill it wins.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:09 |
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Slow Loris posted:Out of curiosity, Wiz: how has Ikko-Ikki changed since the start? In terms of sliders, NIs, and tech, how would you characterize their society at this point? I'm really intrigued by the idea of a peasant/religious rebellion establishing a stable and successful government and how it would evolve over hundreds of years of expansion against the more traditional daiymos. Speaking of, how does Date fit into the whole shogun/daiymo/emperor scheme? Has that basically collapsed? Date is the Shogun. As for Ikko-Ikki, have a look for yourself: Jihad Joe posted:We'd be crackers not to go with . None. I might start taking some during war instead of minting if we get National Bank to bring interest down.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:10 |
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I loving hate inflation
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:13 |
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Hail the new dynasty! I almost always choose National Bank first and if not then it comes second. It certainly should not appear 270.25 years down the line. America: Norwegian and English colonies meet. Africa: Morocco loses territory to independence of minor. Algeria takes an Egyptian province, and Tunisia declares independence from Egypt. Mali absorbs a minor and grabs another province from its eastern neighbor. Two Swahili provinces return to Mutapa? The province splitting Ethiopia gains another of its provinces. Nubia also declares independence. Europe: Burgundy takes two provinces from Lorraine. Hungary absorbs a minor. Oceania: Spain fills out the Australian interior and the NZ south. The Netherlands lands in New Guinea/Irian Jaya. Asia: Azerbaijan takes 7 Armenian provinces. Zhen absorbs Tibet. To the southwest of the absorbed Tibetan territory the minor that absorbed another minor and took a province from a much larger minor in northeast India takes most of the larger neighbor's remaining territory, thus completely reversing the situation from two decades ago. One of the Burmese polities expands by taking a province each from two other Burmese polities. The polity at and to the south of Tienjin (light grey) takes the northern half from the more inland polity at and north of Tienjin (green). Russia expands with one colony at the base of the Kamchatkan peninsula and another in the south of Yakutsk. cwDeici fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Jan 8, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:40 |
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Being able to mint without crippling yourself is really good!
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:43 |
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16. Jesus. The worst number. Too much for inflation, and not enough for the courts. We need to sort that OUT.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:43 |
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Ikko-Ikki looks like a pretty fascinating place; a highly-militarised, freedom-loving monk's paradise dominated by merchants. Would make a pretty interesting ideology come Vicky 2. In comparison, Wiz, is Date more or less a standard feudal Japanese daimyo? Am I the only one hoping the split Japan lasts for a while longer at least? It'd be fantastic to see Japan's fate become this timeline's equivalent of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game, with different colonial powers supporting Date or Ikko-Ikki for their own commercial or strategic interests. Russia is truly terrifying, Mürsel better know what he's doing if he goes poking the bear. Is Burgundy at all set up to get into the colonial game? I've forgotten if they ever owned colonies, but I am surprised to see a lack of overseas holdings considering they're slightly smaller than OTL France. Are they focusing on the continent (uniting their cultural borders first), or are there domestic issues preventing a war or so on?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:43 |
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Bring hyperinflation under control by enforcing Shariah law and finally abolishing the odious practice of interest. EDIT: quote:Ikko-Ikki looks like a pretty fascinating place; a highly-militarised, freedom-loving monk's paradise dominated by merchants. Would make a pretty interesting ideology come Vicky 2. Servant fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:45 |
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Inflation gets better if you have more money, right? (It's probably too early for maximum Weimar, but we can try.)
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:46 |
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Full steam ahead!
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:52 |
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Time to rail in our inflation problems. We've put it off for too long now.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:57 |
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16 inflation is ridiculous.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:58 |
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Guys, if we have more money that translates to less minting as well. It's more flexible in terms of positive inflation which we need since we need to invest in our economy to eradicate the need for inflation. I realize there's a difference between holding off inflation and reducing it, but it doesn't apply when you'd end up using the negative inflation to mint money. And hell, do you really want National Bank when it comes in 1670? If selection National Bank in 1430 for full efficiency is the baseline then 1670 is 40% effectiveness.
cwDeici fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 13:59 |
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cwDeici posted:Guys, if we have more money that translates to less minting as well. It's more flexible. I realize there's a difference between holding off inflation and reducing it, but at this point in time we need money so investments will be more effective than national bank over time. And hell, you really want National Bank when it comes in with only 40% of its worth left. More money just means we can stop minting, so inflation won't increase. National bank means we can decrease our current high inflation - otherwise Wiz needs to rely on unreliably-sourced masters of mint.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:04 |
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We go with B but our Glorious Ruler He Who Crushed those Armenian Assholes must take steps to reduce our inflation. Big Steps, also lets get some loving TRAINS.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:09 |
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I know it's unpopular, but do we want rebels messing up our recent gains?
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:09 |
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John Charity Spring posted:More money just means we can stop minting, so inflation won't increase. National bank means we can decrease our current high inflation - otherwise Wiz needs to rely on unreliably-sourced masters of mint. Inflation is an abomination (as a NB supporter just said) and National Bank is the first idea I select 80% of the time when I'm not roleplaying (the remaining 20% being NTP or SCP). Now it is too late. Smithsonian Economics is more effective for the remaining time we have left, that's why it's a late NI, and will eliminate our need to mint and boost our ability to build and research. The alternative is minting less money at 10% than we'd profit with SE to pay for buildings + less tech and so we'd end up with 0% inflation anyway unless Wiz restrains economic development to reduce inflation which would be even worse than the difference in efficiency between those two ideas at this stage. To summarize... I love the hell out of National Bank and have it as the first idea... but 60% into its lifespan is simply too late. cwDeici fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:10 |
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cwDeici posted:Inflation is an abomination (as a NB supporter just said) and National Bank is the first idea I select 80% of the time when I'm not roleplaying (the remaining 20% being NTP or SCP). Now it is too late. Smithsonian Economics is more effective for the remaining time we have left, that's why it's a late NI, and will eliminate our need to mint and boost our ability to build and research. The alternative is minting less money at 10% (but with less profit and tech than SE) to pay for buildings and we'd end up with 0% inflation anyway unless Wiz restrains economic development to reduce inflation which would be even worse than the difference in efficiency between those two ideas at this stage. a 15% increase in production efficency is HUGE, huge, HUUUUGE money, thus we won't need to mint anymore, especially with all the new land we just got to produce with.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:13 |
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AtomikKrab posted:a 15% increase in production efficency is HUGE, huge, HUUUUGE money, thus we won't need to mint anymore, especially with all the new land we just got to produce with. Uh, it's only monthly and not yearly income so unless you mint you don't see any of it in the treasury. It's maybe a 10% monthly income increase in total, so I guess I can mint at 0.04 instead of 0.05? Smithian Economics is great and all but let's not let our imaginations run completely wild. Wiz fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 7, 2012 |
# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:15 |
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Wiz posted:Uh, it's only monthly and not yearly income so unless you mint you don't see any of it in the treasury. It's maybe a 10% monthly income increase in total, so I guess I can mint at 0.04 instead of 0.05? Mint at 0.00 we can afford some spending cutbacks now that the Armenian menace is crushed.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:18 |
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We also still have ~150 years left and plenty of room for more NIs later on.
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# ? Jan 7, 2012 14:19 |