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Mooseontheloose posted:What is the Japanese obsession with blood typing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture quote:There exists a common, popular belief in Japan, Korea, and other East Asian countries that a person's ABO blood type or ketsueki-gata (血液型?) is predictive of his or her personality, temperament, and compatibility with others,[1] similar to how astrological signs are used in other countries throughout the world, although blood type plays a much more prominent role in Japanese and the societies of other East Asian countries than astrology does in other countries' societies. Basically why characters get along with each other or not.
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Mooseontheloose posted:What is the Japanese obsession with blood typing? I've been told it's also one of those artifacts from the days of eugenics, but that doesn't seem very supported.
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Jan 13, 2012 22:03
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zenintrude posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture So, Cloud is AB: Type AB Best traits Cool, controlled, rational, sociable, adaptable Worst traits Critical, indecisive, forgetful, irresponsible, "split personality" Aeris is O: Type O Best traits Agreeable, sociable, optimistic Worst traits Vain, rude, jealous, arrogant Tifa is B: Type B Best traits Wild, active, doer, creative, passionate, strong Worst traits Selfish, irresponsible, unforgiving, unpredictable Barret is O Red XIII is a dog with an unknown blood type. Cid is B Sephiroth is mysteriously unknown. Yuffie is A: Type A Best traits Earnest, creative, sensible, reserved, patient, responsible Worst traits Fastidious, overearnest, stubborn, tense Cait Sith has no blood because he is a walking And Vincent has the blood type of What Wikipedia doesn't mention, is that there was a similar thing in Europe, with the four humours and temperments, which was just as unscientific and arbitrary as the blood type interpretation. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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Jan 13, 2012 22:10
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Pesky Splinter posted:Yuffie is A: That isn't Yuffie at all  Also, I would say that Tifa is jealous, not Aeris. That in particular stands out to me. Cloud's description is really quite good, though. It's like they started with him and just threw whatever type on the other characters.
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Jan 13, 2012 22:20
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it's not even good blood typing, what about the antigens!
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Jan 13, 2012 23:50
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eating only apples posted:That isn't Yuffie at all It's almost like the entire idea about blood types determining personality types is a giant load of horseshit. Clouds IS pretty bang on though. Anime heroes tend to be A, and villains tend towards O and AB, if I remember correctly.
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Jan 13, 2012 23:59
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:it's not even good blood typing, what about the antigens! Where the gently caress is my Rh typing? Hell, just give me D positive or negative, that's all I really want. The blood groups look so incomplete without a + or - after them. After that, I really don't give a poo poo if they have Duffy A or B. I'm not transfusing those people. Vincent can handle his own transfusions anyway.
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Jan 14, 2012 00:07
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Seraphroy posted:Where the gently caress is my Rh typing? Hell, just give me D positive or negative, that's all I really want. The blood groups look so incomplete without a + or - after them. After that, I really don't give a poo poo if they have Duffy A or B. I'm not transfusing those people. Vincent can handle his own transfusions anyway. Throw a Bombay at these guys who deal with this and REALLY throw them off!
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Jan 14, 2012 01:01
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Tempest815 posted:Throw a Bombay at these guys who deal with this and REALLY throw them off! Completely tangential, gently caress Bombay. poo poo is near impossible to deal with in emergency situations. Though I do wonder what they consider the positive and negative traits of the Bombay type, because it's not technically O, while represented as Oh. Japan, I want answers.
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Jan 14, 2012 01:18
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Xander77 posted:I've been told it's also one of those artifacts from the days of eugenics, but that doesn't seem very supported. Oh no, it is very much a fact that it stems from straight up racism and pseudoscience in the 1920s and 1930s. And in fact was later used by the Nazis in their own quest to prove certain races inferior/superior. It only became popular recently cause of some guy with no scientific credentials published a book about it in the 1970s.
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Concordat posted:Oh no, it is very much a fact that it stems from straight up racism and pseudoscience in the 1920s and 1930s. And in fact was later used by the Nazis in their own quest to prove certain races inferior/superior. It only became popular recently cause of some guy with no scientific credentials published a book about it in the 1970s. I completely forgot about the blood type thing in the manual until now. As a kid who didn't know anything of the quack blood type thing Japan has going on I was confused and waited most of the game to see how that would be worked into the plot. I was expecting like a transfusion minigame or some wierd hospital based story. Its actually a cool little half spoiler for the different characters personalities not mentioned in the blurb. What a bunch of savages the Japanese are with their nazi blood type shenanigans. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go put all my money on a horse because Uranus is rising and my horoscope told me to only date people born between March and April. I did read in a comedy article one (probably on cracked) about places in Japan only giving good jobs to certain blood-types which does smack of some Gattaca style caste system. You have to remember Ronald Reagan believed in bunk too and he had launch codes for nuclear missiles though.
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Jan 14, 2012 13:36
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The difference here is that I think Ronald Reagan was a gigantic idiot anyway, false equivalencies aside.
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Jan 14, 2012 17:43
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While talking about star signs, we may as well go the whole hog: Cloud is a Leo, Aeris is Aquarius, Tifa is Taurus, Barret is Sagittarius, Cid is Pisces, Yuffie is a Scorpio and Vincent is a Libra. It's pointless listing any supposed traits with any of these things, because they're so applicable to any normal human being.
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Jan 14, 2012 18:06
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Pesky Splinter posted:Cloud is a Leo  That's Aquarius. 
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Jan 14, 2012 18:10
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
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Jan 14, 2012 18:27
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
Must be Aeris in drag.
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Jan 14, 2012 18:28
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He also doesn't wear capes or hats.
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Jan 14, 2012 18:29
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Ooo continuity errors.  I think a blood type discussion came up about 10,000 years ago in the LP and one thing that was mentioned that was kind of relevant was O and AB's roles in donations, the universal giver/recipient. I don't know if it was intentional though.
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Jan 14, 2012 18:32
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Scalding Coffee posted:He also doesn't wear capes or hats.
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Jan 14, 2012 18:35
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Anyone can wear a ribbon, dude. And why not? Blocks every status effect, it does.
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Jan 14, 2012 19:26
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resurgam40 posted:Anyone can wear a ribbon, dude. And why not? Bolcks every status effect, it does. In FFT, only women and Cloud in his unique job can wear ribbons.
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Jan 14, 2012 19:28
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:In FFT, only women and Cloud in his unique job can wear ribbons. This was either a callback to everyone in FF7 being able to equip ribbons, or the crossdressing shenanigans. I personally hope it's the later. Also, I don't suppose anyone knows, but are the birthdates listed in the Japanese manual anywhere? Either the person who localized the instruction manual threw them in there, or the FFT team was just lazy.
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Jan 14, 2012 20:55
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Frocobo posted:This was either a callback to everyone in FF7 being able to equip ribbons, or the crossdressing shenanigans. I personally hope it's the later. Also, I don't suppose anyone knows, but are the birthdates listed in the Japanese manual anywhere? Either the person who localized the instruction manual threw them in there, or the FFT team was just lazy. It's the later, as Dissedia also give Cloud (and Kefka for some reason) the option to use armor unique to the women characters.
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Jan 14, 2012 21:02
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Rirse posted:It's the later, as Dissedia also give Cloud (and Kefka for some reason) the option to use armor unique to the women characters. Well, to be fair, Kefka is insane. And Cloud...well I think Aeris gave him a taste for pretty dresses and bows. 
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Jan 14, 2012 21:11
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Scalding Coffee posted:He also doesn't wear capes or hats. Also he has a nose.
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Jan 14, 2012 21:16
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Pesky Splinter posted:Well, to be fair, Kefka is insane. I'm not sure i like what you're implying here.
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Jan 14, 2012 21:31
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HenryEx posted:I'm not sure i like what you're implying here. Sorry, bad phrasing on my part.  What I meant to say is that his clothes are a mixmatch of things, so presumably, the reason he can equip that stuff is because it clashes with everything, or something I guess. I don't know 
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Jan 14, 2012 21:42
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Cloud can wear a Ribbon because he's comfortable enough in his masculinity not to be put-off by a little outside-the-gender-norms thinking. Kefka can wear whatever the gently caress he wants because he gives absolutely zero fucks about anything other than absolute omnipotence. There. Happy? (You are now picturing Jecht dressed as a pretty pretty princess.)
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Jan 15, 2012 04:15
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Ghost of Starman posted:(You are now picturing Jecht dressed as a pretty pretty princess.) Here have this plus more
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Jan 15, 2012 04:19
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wit posted:I completely forgot about the blood type thing in the manual until now. As a kid who didn't know anything of the quack blood type thing Japan has going on I was confused and waited most of the game to see how that would be worked into the plot. I was expecting like a transfusion minigame or some wierd hospital based story. Its actually a cool little half spoiler for the different characters personalities not mentioned in the blurb. I had to take a personality test at an employment agency once. It said I was a Blue. I did not receive a job through that agency.
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Jan 15, 2012 04:33
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pandaK posted:Here have this plus more  I knew someone would post that; I just didn't think it would be so fast.
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Jan 15, 2012 04:41
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Christmas Jones posted:I had to take a personality test at an employment agency once. It said I was a Blue. I did not receive a job through that agency. I'm willing to bet it was a Myers-Briggs test and they were sugar-coating the results. It's always Myers-Briggs. Always. I had to do it twice two years ago to get in a training course.
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Jan 15, 2012 04:57
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pandaK posted:Here have this plus more Aside from being terrifying, who the heck is that? Yuna's dad, Jecht, and Auron?
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Jan 15, 2012 04:58
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Yep, exactly those three. It's based on some official FFX2 art, too.
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Jan 15, 2012 05:06
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pandaK posted:Here have this plus more You know, a lot of people have been clamoring for a Final Fantasy X-0 featuring Braska, Auron, and Jecht's adventure. After seeing this, I'm terrified as to which direction such a project would go.
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Jan 15, 2012 07:14
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The songstress sphere would dress Jecht like David Lee Roth.
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Elentor posted:I'm willing to bet it was a Myers-Briggs test and they were sugar-coating the results. A dumbed-down, less-descriptive Myers-Briggs!
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Jan 15, 2012 07:46
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Elentor posted:I'm willing to bet it was a Myers-Briggs test and they were sugar-coating the results. I don't mind personality tests since they make it possible to tell the employer exactly what they want to hear, and it also means you can google for answers if the company is big enough.
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Jan 15, 2012 16:18
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Flashbang! posted:The songstress sphere would dress Jecht like David Lee Roth. Is it wrong that I want to see that?
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Prison Warden posted:
The one thing that always confused me is, aside from a to-video-dvd thing (Before Crisis?, all this compilation stuff never produced was something that used to be pretty common: A short run of traditional 22-minutes and like 12 episode anime showing characters dicking around. A ton of RPGs had and still do this (usually with stuff hammered out to fit a TV format, either talking about post-game stuff or retelling stuff like the Xenosaga one). It was usually a pure marketing thing to show off some voice talent or pad a company's promotion yeah, but was a good source to put all the side poo poo you expected fans to want but probably couldn't fit in one big rear end movie. All the FF EU seems to do is really hype up one or two set pieces at an expensive price, and the whole mood smells of a more modern take being shoehorned in and feeling weirdly unfamiliar. I think a huge factor is there's a different in a character BEING interesting and deep and a character USED in an interesting way; I can't really get interested in the "new" characters and plots shoehorned in for some reason.
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