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I'm gonna guess the 3rd panel is disallows because he stopped in his runup because they specifically mention he stops
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Jan 13, 2012 13:19
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1) Punch the physio in the face, abandon the game. 2) Punch the goalie in the face, tell him to piss off. 3) Punch the penalty taker in the face, give the goal.
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Jan 13, 2012 13:22
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1. Abandon the match. 2. Allow him. 3. No goal, counts as two touches.
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Jan 13, 2012 14:09
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Mickolution posted:1. Abandon the match. sounds about right punch the physio in the face though
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Jan 13, 2012 14:25
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Modus Trollens posted:sounds about right So naturally, all three will be wrong...
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Jan 13, 2012 14:27
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Mickolution posted:So naturally, all three will be wrong... ~tHe RuLeS oF tHe GaMe~
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Jan 13, 2012 14:37
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Mickolution posted:1. Abandon the match. Where's the second touch?
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Jan 13, 2012 14:38
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I'm probably complete wrong but: 1. Allow him to stay. Abandoning the match because of one tosser would cause havoc. Naturally include the details in the post-match report and have the proper authorities boot his arse. 2. Insist he remove the gear. Yellow for insubordination if he refuses. Red if he continues. 3. Retake the penalty. He didn't get the job done in one smooth movement.
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Jan 13, 2012 14:46
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pik_d posted:Where's the second touch? One to scoop it up, one to flick it. Even if he doesn't pause with the ball on his foot, it's still two touches. Similar to this which although it counted, was outlawed at the end of the season, according to Wikipedia.
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Jan 13, 2012 14:51
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if it's one continuous motion to move the ball I can't see how it would count. I see it like that Ronaldinho touch that looks impossible.
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Jan 13, 2012 14:53
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Mickolution posted:One to scoop it up, one to flick it. Even if he doesn't pause with the ball on his foot, it's still two touches. Similar to this which although it counted, was outlawed at the end of the season, according to Wikipedia. The scoop and the flick were one motion so it's one touch. I think if there's anyway to disallow it it's what Carrier said Carrier posted:I'm gonna guess the 3rd panel is disallows because he stopped in his runup because they specifically mention he stops
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Jan 13, 2012 15:07
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1) Probably something involving sending him out anyway and maybe abandoning the match. I wish they wouldn't waste space with these type of situations. 2) Without a valid medical reason it's not part of the uniform. e: on second thought, who really gives a poo poo as long as it isn't dangerous to anyone else 3) The ball has to: A. Be kicked B. Move forward. It does not satisfy either. Retake and caution for USB.
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Jan 13, 2012 16:08
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SteadfastMeat posted:1) Abandon game, kill everyone. 2) No, he can take it off or piss off. He needs a doctor's note. 3) This is just a lobbed penalty? Nowt wrong with that.
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Jan 14, 2012 01:07
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SteadfastMeat posted:1) Abandon game and punch him. 2) Don't let him and punch him and then card him if keep on trying play with the headgear. 3) No Goal and punch him for showing off.
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Jan 14, 2012 01:47
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For the second one, they allow gloves and hairbands in football, don't see why this isn't allowed. They specifically had to legislate against snoods, it's not like "everything but team kit" is automatically banned. I guess to really adhere to the rules you might have to inspect it to see that it doesn't offer any competitive advantage or something, but I'd let him keep it. In reality though the question doesn't really cover it. If he says he needs it for medical reasons you'd ask him exactly what was wrong with him rather than just making your decision based on him being "insistent". Definitely abandon the game for the physio thing, shouldn't let the opposing team come out without their own physio, don't those guys need to be named on the team sheet? Hoops fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jan 14, 2012 |
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Jan 14, 2012 02:28
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1. Abandon game, file scathing report with FA. 2. If he wants to wear a scrumcap, then go ahead. Don't really see an issue with it. 3. No goal, indirect free kick to defending team.
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Jan 14, 2012 02:35
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1. Punch physio in face and kick him out. Ask if there are any certified medics in the stands. If not, abandon game. 2. Let him as long as it's not some headgear that's banned or dangerous to himself or anyone else. 3. Indirect free kick, punch penalty taker in the face.
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Jan 14, 2012 05:06
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Keith Hackett posted:1) Continue without him. It's not ideal, but many matches are played without physios - and even at professional level, unless competition rules state otherwise, it is your call whether to play on without medical staff. I would never abandon a game if it could be avoided. So send the physio out of the technical area, tell him he may still be needed in an emergency, and complete the match as normal. Afterwards, make sure you have full notes of what happened, as this could become a police matter. I don't quite see how the reasoning in 2) works to be honest. Also the first one doesn't deal with the fact that if a medic is the type to punch an opposing player they may not be the most cooperative of people.
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Jan 17, 2012 13:01
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Overminty posted:I don't quite see how the reasoning in 2) works to be honest. Vegetable fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jan 20, 2012 |
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Jan 18, 2012 13:28
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Yeah, the reasoning given is that it has to both fulfil a) not being dangerous to the wearer or anyone else, and b) it has to be medically necessary. It might well fulfil the first criteria, but it fails the second, and it needs both.
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Jan 19, 2012 00:52
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Jan 20, 2012 10:27
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the sex ghost posted:1. Stop game, send off goal keeper, forcing the team to bring the original one back on. gently caress them for trying to pull a fast one, the cunts. 2. Report incident, have the assistant replaced. 3. Award as own-goal, red card.
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Jan 20, 2012 10:30
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1) Red Card. Get the original keeper on and restart the 2nd half. 2) Get the 4th Official to replace him (unless it's the 4th official in which case I haven't a clue other than abandon the game?). Put it in the match report. 3) Goal. Red Card.
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Jan 20, 2012 10:42
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1) I assume the keeper has switched with an outfield player, in which case it shouldn't be a problem? 2) Not appropriate, get the 4th official to replace him. 3) Award the goal, yellow for unsporting conduct. He didn't actually deny the goal so you can't send him off.
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Jan 20, 2012 10:46
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Scikar posted:1) I assume the keeper has switched with an outfield player, in which case it shouldn't be a problem? 1. Where's this stuff about an outfield player coming from? In the first half, The Yellow Bastards had one goalkeeper in goal. In the second half, they switched him with a new guy without bothering to tell you. 3. There was clear intent to deny a goal through illegal means.
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Jan 20, 2012 10:51
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Vagabundo posted:1. Where's this stuff about an outfield player coming from? In the first half, The Yellow Bastards had one goalkeeper in goal. In the second half, they switched him with a new guy without bothering to tell you. It just says it's not the same keeper. If they made a sub without telling you then fine, but they might have just put a different starting player in goal and moved the keeper outfield which is fine. For 3, there's an offence of intentional handball (yellow card, but play advantage) and a separate one of denying a goal through intentional handball (red card, but which didn't happen). There's no offence for intending to deny a goal, but failing to do so.
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Jan 20, 2012 10:58
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Scikar posted:It just says it's not the same keeper. If they made a sub without telling you then fine, but they might have just put a different starting player in goal and moved the keeper outfield which is fine. For the first one, you're overcomplicating things and inventing scenarios that aren't present and he's explicitly referred to as a "keeper," rather than "outfielder who switched places with keeper." I'm not even sure why you're insisting that it's an outfield player who's now in goal.
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Jan 20, 2012 11:08
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1. I don't really know, it's just a not-announced substitution that took place during half time and I assume they hadn't gone through all of their subs yet by that time. Probably still a sending off for the guy in goal, but should the original keeper go back in goal or an outfield player then? 2. Tell the furious manager of the opposition that you're a massive fan of HIM, get his autograph. Everything is fair again so play the game. 3. That's just a yellow for the hand ball, didn't deny a goal.
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Jan 20, 2012 11:44
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I assume the third one is one of those "going by the rules" ones rather than what would happen in reality. I've seen that done countless times and it's just a goal with no punishment for the defender.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:56
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Revenant Threshold posted:Yeah, the reasoning given is that it has to both fulfil a) not being dangerous to the wearer or anyone else, and b) it has to be medically necessary. It might well fulfil the first criteria, but it fails the second, and it needs both. But how are things like sweatbands medically necessary? For this week's: 1) Charge them with a substitution and put it in the match report? 2) Replace linesman with 4th official 3) a Yellow and a Goal (intentional handball); if it had been deflected into the goal, it would be a Red and a Penalty. Bea Nanner fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jan 20, 2012 |
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Jan 20, 2012 18:20
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Sending off for a gk substitute without the referee's permission? Jeez, no. Caution both GK's and play on.
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Jan 20, 2012 18:50
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the sex ghost posted:1) Punch the new goalkeeper and kick him out of the game and get the original one back and take away a sub from the team. 2) Punch the assistant and replace him with a new one and have a write up of him in the match report. 3) Give the goal and yellow card and punch the defender.
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Jan 20, 2012 18:55
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If I am giving the benefit of the doubt to the club in 1), then there was some commotion or confusion and they forgot to report the sub to the 4th official before play started. Really, it's the referee's fault for not noticing or validating the squad sheet before restarting play in the second half. IMO, this would best resolved off the pitch in the form of a fine on the club itself, instead of penalizing a player on the field who himself has done little wrong.
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Jan 20, 2012 18:55
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Relevant rule bit: Changing the Goalkeeper Any of the other players may change places with the goalkeeper, provided that: • the referee is informed before the change is made • the change is made during a stoppage in the match Infringements and Sanctions If a substitute or substituted player enters the field of play without the referee’s permission: • the referee stops play (although not immediately if the substitute or substituted player does not interfere with play) • the referee cautions him for unsporting behaviour and orders him to leave the field of play • if the referee has stopped play, it is restarted with an indirect free kick for the opposing team from the position of the ball at the time of the stoppage (see Law 13 – Position of Free Kick) If a player changes places with the goalkeeper without the referee’s permission before the change is made: • the referee allows play to continue • the referee cautions the players concerned when the ball is next out of play (Not quoted because it breaks the spoiler, but taken from Trin's thread) At the end of the day what they've done (whether they made a substitution or swapped the goalkeeper) isn't wrong, it's just that they haven't done it the right way, so I don't see a problem with booking both goalkeepers (entering/leaving the field of play without permission) and then carrying on, assuming the new keeper was still named on the teamsheet (ball has gone out for a corner so the new keeper goes off, you then let him on as a proper sub and carry on). Scikar fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 20, 2012 |
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Jan 20, 2012 19:31
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How would that rule change if it were an outfield player?
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Jan 20, 2012 19:46
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the sex ghost posted:1) Kill yourself. Yellow card him for entering the pitch without permission, and the other goalie now presumably sat on the bench for leaving. Drop ball on the 6 yard line as the goalie was essentially an outside agent when he touched the ball. Write it up in your report. 2) The assistant is fatally compromised. Replace him with the fourth official. I forget what happens to the fourth official's job in this instance. 3) We've already had this and the general consensus was that there is no sanction at all.
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Jan 20, 2012 19:56
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1. Punch yourself in the face. Yellow each for entering/leaving without permission. Hope you still have a job next week. 2. Punch assistant in the face. Replace him with the 4th official. 3. Punch defender in the face, but don't caution him since it was a goal anyway.
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Jan 20, 2012 20:27
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HinderedUseless posted:How would that rule change if it were an outfield player? It's covered in the last part.
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Jan 20, 2012 20:42
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the sex ghost posted:1: Yellow card both keepers, have them swap back. Note it in the match report, suspect the gaffer is a oval office. 2: Replace him with the 4th official, note it in the match report. Talk to the ref manager afterward, get him busted back to Cotswolds fuddy-duddies division. 3: Intentional handball in the box is an automatic red card. So, card + penalty. e: Although, reading the Laws, it's only an automatic red for using your hands to deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity, and since the goal went in maybe it should stand and only be a yellow card? I don't even know.
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