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Eh, Mur'nath doesn't do anything for me. Booting him permanently is fine. 3, E
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Jan 22, 2012 01:52
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3, E Mur'nath is a terrible character.
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Jan 22, 2012 02:03
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3E. Dump Mur'neth like a hot potato, and take on the new thief. She and Imoen can give each other tips!
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Jan 22, 2012 02:11
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Jan 22, 2012 02:19
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Despite previously voting for Mur'Neth in the poll, I am choosing: 2 E He really hasn't said anything of note, and doesn't seem to be doing much in the party. All round disappointment that slime.
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Jan 22, 2012 02:25
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3, A, god is Xan creeping the poo poo out of me.
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Jan 22, 2012 02:32
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3 A Now I'm just skipping over every one of Xan's conversations just so I can't be brought to testify as a witness at the date-rape trial. It feels like i can only read half an update now since he just has to be the center of attention, doesn't he?
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Jan 22, 2012 04:35
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2, E That slime is not good for you, Syvishtara. Leave it...
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E. Revenant posted:Now I'm just skipping over every one of Xan's conversations just so I can't be brought to testify as a witness at the date-rape trial. You haven't seen anything yet. Xan isn't as over-the-top Mary Sue-ish as some mods, but boy does the mod play up Xan's importance. This continues for the BG2 Xan mod, which is written by the same author and picks up from where this mod's content leaves off. And if you want a really bad elf date-rape trip and have Icewind Dale 2, download the IWD2 NPC Project from Gibberlings 3, which attempts to add BG-style mod characters, dialogue, and yes, romances to that game. One is a male NE elf druid who puts Xan's stuff here to shame. But at any rate, as far as I know, all of Xan's stuff is canonically stuff elves do and are capable of in the Forgotten Realms - they're borderline psychic, have a normally unconscious racial memory, etc.
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Jan 22, 2012 05:08
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What exactly do you mean by permanent? Voting 3E anyway.
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Jan 22, 2012 05:12
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2 E Xan conversations are hilarious to me because I just imagine them talking to each other with their hands held up like in their portraits.
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Jan 22, 2012 05:21
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2E But HOLY gently caress XAN SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
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Jan 22, 2012 05:53
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I have suffered through Xan in BG1 already. Ditch the elf (also Kivan should shut up). 3. A
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I (like many) thought Mur'Neth would actually be kind of cool, but he's been a real load of nothing instead. That being said: 2 E
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Jan 22, 2012 07:40
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Well, he did say I was special and try to convert me to Ghaunadaur's religion at the beginning of the previous update, but he hasn't said much compared to the other chatterboxes since then.
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Vorgen posted:Well, he did say I was special and try to convert me to Ghaunadaur's religion at the beginning of the previous update, but he hasn't said much compared to the other chatterboxes since then. I wonder if you actually have to convert to get his content. 2E
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Jazzimus Prime posted:I wonder if you actually have to convert to get his content. You know I was just reading up on him and it's an undocumented feature that he's immune to gaze attacks. So he would be an excellent tank to finish the Mutamin's Garden area.
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Sure whatever bring him back for that after you finish this treasure hunt for the new girl, but otherwise Mur'Neth is getting kinda stale.
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3 A Uck! Shar-Teel was bad and now we have this, let's keep the creepy romance characters out of our party.
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Yeah I'll join in with the 3 E crowd. I really really like Mur'Neth, because he is a) a mod NPC b) clearly neither a self-insert nor wish fulfillment c) Chaotic Evil without being a violent maniac which is a very interesting combination. But, apparently the execution has left something to be desired. Hopefully his timer will have raked up some banters the next time we pick him up. Also, spoiler from Mur'Neth's readme file: quote:"There is now an additional encounter occurring near the end of the game. It happens if you've had Mur'Neth in the party, but he has disapproved of your actions and left..." By the way - hi Vorgen, great job you're doing so far. Marathoning this thread has devoured my gaming time for the last few days, which is a noticeable accomplishment 
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NihilCredo posted:By the way - hi Vorgen, great job you're doing so far. Marathoning this thread has devoured my gaming time for the last few days, which is a noticeable accomplishment Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate all the kudos I get from all you guys, it really makes my day to post an update, go to bed, and wake up to 20-odd replies to the thread.
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The Slime was good but now is past its time, For now we help this girl to do her crime, Her presence surely will be a pleasure, And best of all we get all the treasure. 3E
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2 E Mur'Neth could be interesting, but he just doesn't DO anything.
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Tzarnal posted:Mur'Neth could be interesting, but he just doesn't DO anything. He does too do something. He can turn into slime. Can Kivan do that? No, he's just medieval machine gun. Can Branwen do that? No, she's just a tank with spells. Can Xan do that? No, he's just a creepy wizard. Can Imoen do that? No, she's just a pretty good thief/mage.
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Brainamp posted:He does too do something. He can turn into slime. Okay, let me clarify. He's not a bad character, he's interesting and he doesn't prattle on and on about his tortured childhood or his long lost love or whatever. And I hope in there somewhere is a storyline we'll walk into at some point. And it'll probably be decently done, interesting and self contained. All those are good qualities. It also makes him uninteresting as an npc to have in the party for this LP because he gets no screentime story wise and he also isn't so overpowered that his stats alone cause him to take narrative, like Kivan does. You would still notice Kivan if he didn't have his whole "I want to die, preferably while killing the bandits who killed my wife" thing going, because he is over 70% of the party damage in BG1. So yeah, Mur'Neth good NPC mod, uninteresting to have in the party because he doesn't do anything to take screentime. Does that make sense ?
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3 E. Mur'Neth's boring.
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Vorgen posted:Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate all the kudos I get from all you guys, it really makes my day to post an update, go to bed, and wake up to 20-odd replies to the thread. This is my favorite LP right now, so in that spirit: 3 E
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3, E I like Mur'Neth but he's being very quiet right now.
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Jan 22, 2012 21:32
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3, E Goodbye, mr. Blobby.
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I'd like to petition changing Kivan's portrait back to the original. His constant whining is annoying as it is, but having to look at that 17 year old emo kid self-insert all the time makes it so much worse...
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If we do that, may I check if anyone else would also like Imoen and Jaheira to get their original portraits back? I never liked their BG2 versions - Imoen's in particular feels out of place since it's supposed to convey her having gone through torture.
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Choronzons son posted:I'd like to petition changing Kivan's portrait back to the original. The worst part is, that's not an emo kid's self-insert. That's what his fangirls decided they preferred. Personally, I'd rather the original, and feel willing to stake my hetrosexual female cred on that, but then I don't get why mopey  elves are somehow more interesting than elves who actually enjoy life and have senses of humor, so I'm obviously not the target audience.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Personally, I'd rather the original, and feel willing to stake my hetrosexual female cred on that. I'd rather the original, and feel willing to stake my hetrosexual male cred on that even.  But yes, I hate Kivan mostly just because of the portrait. It's... just wrong. I liked the original Kivan though. I even used his portrait for my main protagonist. On the other hand, I feel like we shouldn't change the portrait. We are supposed to play the Big World Project and see how horrible it can be at times. We are not allowed to make it better, more sane or avoid the horrible conversations. We must see it all!
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Fighting Trousers posted:The worst part is, that's not an emo kid's self-insert. That's what his fangirls decided they preferred. Personally, I'd rather the original, and feel willing to stake my hetrosexual female cred on that, but then I don't get why mopey Here's the only male elf romanceable by ladies in BG2 I can think of who isn't Kivan, Xan, or a ridiculously over-the-top Gary Stu:  He's a very uptight strong-but-silent paladin type, though he eases up a lot in ToB. And you can usually call him out on his bullshit.
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markus_cz posted:I even used his portrait for my main protagonist. Which portrait does he end up with if you're using his default? Xan's secondary is absolutely great, so I'm wondering if Kivan's is equally "fitting".
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Fighting Trousers posted:The worst part is, that's not an emo kid's self-insert. That's what his fangirls decided they preferred. Personally, I'd rather the original, and feel willing to stake my hetrosexual female cred on that, but then I don't get why mopey
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Xander77 posted:I really hope mod makers haven't messed with Coran. (I think we should be getting him fairly soon?) We should get to him in the Cloakwood once we finish Syvishtara's Trail of Vengeance thing.
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Xander77 posted:I really hope mod makers haven't messed with Coran. (I think we should be getting him fairly soon?) He's a romance option. Tremble in fear.
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Cythereal posted:He's a romance option. Tremble in fear. At this point it's better to ask who hasn't been made into a romance option by someone?
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