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My Linux Rig posted:With all the talk of buying tablets to hack them up, I could see how someone might think that! No one who actually reads the thread thinks that...
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Codiusprime posted:No one who actually reads the thread thinks that... So the Apple trolls are in denial because: -iOS doesn't support Flash -iOS doesn't really support expansion or customization And they're trying to make it seem like Android is *wrong* because their iOS products are better and don't need Flash, or expansion, or customization. Cult-like traits. Making sense of things that don't make sense.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:49
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Eugene Jerome posted:
You don't need choices at all. Choices are hard. You don't need hard. Now get in this all grey onsie.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:52
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Eugene Jerome posted:So the Apple trolls are in denial because: Oh man, you totally got us. Looks like the gigs up, guys.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:53
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I don't really care about any of that, I don't care about the iPad, I don't care about what it can and can't do. If I did, I would go into the iPad thread to talk about it. I think we should be able to talk about Android tablets, even compare Android features to iOS features on occasion, with out having the thread get locked every time. It's great you love your iPad/iOS/Apple, we don't give a poo poo.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:54
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zer0spunk posted:You don't need choices at all. IT JUST WORKS!
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Jan 29, 2012 23:54
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Codiusprime posted:It's great you love your iPad/iOS/Apple, we don't give a poo poo. New thread title and/or OP.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:55
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It really feels like PS3 vs. Xbox trolling/thread making GBS threads. I'm not sure why it's ok here and not there. Surely the PS3 thread can use some more posts about how amazing Xbox Live is?
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Jan 29, 2012 23:56
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Ciabatta posted:It really feels like PS3 vs. Xbox trolling/thread making GBS threads. I'm not sure why it's ok here and not there. Surely the PS3 thread can use some more posts about how amazing Xbox Live is? It's so good.
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Jan 29, 2012 23:58
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zer0spunk posted:Look at the post above yours. I really don't. All I'm trying to do is discuss the latest android tablet, in the android tablet thread. Oddly enough, this doesn't exist in the android phone thread. Go figure. Android phones have a clear market with a lot of different options available. There are several top tier/flagship devices, and many of the devices don't need to be modified to work out of the box (if you don't count root). Compare it to this thread where at least 25% of the content (and possibly more in the previous incarnation) is about modifying devices to change their out of the box function, and the post content is going to be a lot different. Add to that the current state of the Android tablet market and everything gets a lot more defensive. People coming in and talking about the many QA issues they have with their Prime are met with "WELL MINE WORKED FIND OUT OF THE BOX DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU! THESE AREN'T TYPICAL PROBLEMS" like it was a personal attack on their device. People who say they don't see why they would need a dock on their tablet are told "WELL IT FITS MY NEEDS PERFECTLY MAYBE YOU AREN'T THE ONLY MARKET HUH?" like they'd gone beyond stating a personal preference and were trying to tell everyone else what they SHOULD like. This doesn't happen in the Phone thread because people don't get defensive the second you bring up an iPhone. In fact, people don't get defensive the minute you bring up a failing in an Android phone. Because at this point, in this thread, criticism of Android tablets gets interpreted as support and advocacy of iPads. That doesn't happen in the phone thread, so it never devolves like this one. There is an 800 pound gorilla in the tablet world that almost always has to be discussed in one way or another in comparison to other tablets because it has such a dominant presence, both in market share and mind share. To act like it shouldn't ever be mentioned, or that mentioning it is immediate dismissal and criticism of Android is ridiculous. Eugene Jerome posted:I just saw your avatar - is Apple-loving like your gimmick or something?
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Has this been talked about yet? I went back a few pages and didn't see it: http://blog.flurry.com/bid/81151/Amazon-Lights-the-Android-World-on-Fire Between November 2011 and January 2012, the Fire's share of the Android tablet market went from 4% to 36%, tying the galaxy tab and making it the #1 Android tablet.
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El Duke posted:wall o' text Well then, person to person, why do you personally feel the need to come into the android tablet thread all the time to constantly restate your opinions on androids flaws? Commission? brand loyalty? Some kind of duty to all tablet users of the world? Please, feel free to word this in a 750 word essay.
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El Duke posted:There is an 800 pound gorilla in the tablet world that almost always has to be discussed in one way or another in comparison to other tablets because it has such a dominant presence, both in market share and mind share. To act like it shouldn't ever be mentioned, or that mentioning it is immediate dismissal and criticism of Android is ridiculous. I have no words. Is Apple paying you to push their products? What provokes you to poo poo up the Android thread?
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zer0spunk posted:Well then, person to person, why do you personally feel the need to come into the android tablet thread all the time to constantly restate your opinions on androids flaws? Commission? brand loyalty? Some kind of duty to all tablet users of the world? click the ?, see how many flaws I constantly talk about in the thread. That goes for you, too, Eugene, to see how I've been "making GBS threads up" the thread. Eugene Jerome posted:I have no words.
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Some thoughts after coming back to a couple hundred unread posts and a handful of reports:
Lastly, I know the thread is called the "Android laugh factory", but there actually is more discussion of Android devices and such going on over there than in IYG. Shocking, I know. You might get the same sort of browbeating that you've been experiencing in here lately, but I try to make sure that we're accepting of all kinds in YOSPOS. If you can look at technology dispassionately (and that really is the key), it's a lot of fun in there. As always, feel free to shoot myself or 900ftjesus a PM if you have any thoughts, ideas, or criticism of how to best serve Android discussion or IYG in general. I'll leave this closed until some time tomorrow morning so everyone can get an opportunity to read it.
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I'm really confused at the Acer A200's positioning. The screen looks nice, they bumped it from 1GHZ to 1.2GHZ, the back is a nice leathery vinyl texture, and there's a promise of ICS in February. On the other hand, it has a 2MP webcam and no camera otherwise. Is the market starting to move away from rear cameras on tablets?
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Jan 30, 2012 19:43
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Well, I imagine that trying to take pictures with a 10" tablet might be a little unwieldy and silly looking. Maybe some companies plan on sticking the higher res cameras with the 7" and under tablets.
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Jan 30, 2012 19:48
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Matlock posted:I'm really confused at the Acer A200's positioning. The screen looks nice, they bumped it from 1GHZ to 1.2GHZ, the back is a nice leathery vinyl texture, and there's a promise of ICS in February. My Transformer has a decent enough rear camera but frankly I've no use for it at that size. I took a couple pictures with it for the novelty of it all but that's it.
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Jan 30, 2012 19:50
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Matlock posted:I'm really confused at the Acer A200's positioning. The screen looks nice, they bumped it from 1GHZ to 1.2GHZ, the back is a nice leathery vinyl texture, and there's a promise of ICS in February. Personally I'd rather they in put better front facing cameras. Note the general "they", as I mean every tablet manufacturer.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:05
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Agh, Amazon lightening deal was a Galaxy Tab 8.9 for 399. I decided to buy it like two seconds to late 
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Rumor mill says Samsung will announce a 11.6 inch Galaxy Tab at MWC next month
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Codiusprime posted:Agh, Amazon lightening deal was a Galaxy Tab 8.9 for 399. I decided to buy it like two seconds to late Wait, how exactly is that a good deal? An original TF is $400 - are you in love with the smaller form factor or something?
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Crackbone posted:Wait, how exactly is that a good deal? An original TF is $400 - are you in love with the smaller form factor or something? Yea I was looking at that, I really do just like that size. Though now that I have the OK I might just order one of those.
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That's....odd. I'm really trying to figure out what the extra inch of screen real estate is really going to give someone. That just must be the smallest that they can produce a 2560×1600 panel.
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bull3964 posted:That's....odd. Its Samsung, they have a 5.3", 7", 7.7", 8.9", and a 10.1" tablet. ANOTHER screen size shouldn't be very surprising.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:25
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Install Gentoo posted:My Transformer has a decent enough rear camera but frankly I've no use for it at that size. I took a couple pictures with it for the novelty of it all but that's it. The rear camera would be nice for taking video (like home movies) if there was a single good Android app for editing video. The transformer comes with an app but it's the biggest shitpile I've ever used.
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Mister Macys posted:Well, I imagine that trying to take pictures with a 10" tablet might be a little unwieldy and silly looking. 
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Jan 30, 2012 20:29
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Syrinxx posted:I spotted this guy taking photos of his daughter's xmas recital. I thought he looked like a huge idiot. Yea he totally does. "Hey hey look at me hey hey I have a tablet look at me hey hey." 
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Don Lapre posted:Its Samsung, they have a 5.3", 7", 7.7", 8.9", and a 10.1" tablet. ANOTHER screen size shouldn't be very surprising. bull3964 posted:That just must be the smallest that they can produce a 2560×1600 panel. Maybe with their hounding by Apple in the courts Samsung is considering dropping the 10.1" size? But since they're Samsung, probably not.
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Rastor posted:That's (A), and Why would they drop the 10.1" because of the Apple stuff. It's not like the iPad is 10.1".
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Jan 30, 2012 20:39
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Not exactly, but that's the closest of their product options.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:41
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Syrinxx posted:I spotted this guy taking photos of his daughter's xmas recital. I thought he looked like a huge idiot. Still it's hard to hate the guy for wanting to record his daughter's dance recital. I've been giving it to directors with this, or using this to show people under me where they need to build diffusion frames in relation to the sun. I don't mind handing someone a bigger screen for these tasks. It's hard to say no one uses the rear camera at all for anything properly. I'd miss it if they cut them.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:42
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People used to look like idiots waving cameraphones around, too. The future is: Your dad taking photos of the dog holding a large tablet with a special case to mount DSLR lenses to.
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Jan 30, 2012 20:52
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Coffee Quack posted:
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zer0spunk posted:Exclusive to ios so far :\ What in the goddamn gently caress if I saw someone with a lens like that connected to their phone (Apple or otherwise) I would seriously consider kicking them in the balls and throwing that poo poo on the ground. If you're carrying a lens like that around you should have a decent camera to attach it to.
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The sad thing is crap like that dominated videography for a good 3 years until DSLRS finally brought cheap interchangeable glass camera systems to low budget film makers. There is nothing good about shooting a lens through another lens. Dark time in my career.
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Matlock posted:I'm really confused at the Acer A200's positioning. The screen looks nice, they bumped it from 1GHZ to 1.2GHZ, the back is a nice leathery vinyl texture, and there's a promise of ICS in February. Have you looked at the pricing? Here the 16gb wifi only iPad, Tab 10.1 and A500 are all $799 and the original Transformer and plastic Toshiba are $699. The A200 is $449 - basically a pricing breakthrough for a real Android tablet. As for the back camera I have an A500 and can say I've never used it. Even if the camera was good which it isn't really the form factor is too awkward. Would just use my phone.
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Syrinxx posted:I spotted this guy taking photos of his daughter's xmas recital. I thought he looked like a huge idiot. Admit it, you took that picture using your tablet.
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zer0spunk posted:Exclusive to ios so far :\  I can't even begin to comprehend the thought process that went into this. That mounting can't possibly support any of the weight of that lens at all. It looks like the thing would be constantly pulling down all of the time, even if you tried to keep it level with your hand.
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