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Neon Knight
Jan 14, 2009

Skittle Wood posted:

I heard the Black download is coming without the cutscenes. I'm going to a Twisted Metal event thursday, if I get a chance I'll ask Jaffe about it.

Jaffe confirmed on twitter that this is true for Euro copies of Twisted Metal, because that was the case with the original TM Black for that territory.

I love following Jaffe on twitter. Every now and then he goes off swearing about game journalists or something else. Then later he posts the fucken cookies his kids made. But most of the time he is just so honestly passionate about delivering a fun Twisted Metal game that I can't help but ignore some of the rough edges.

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Skittle Wood
Dec 10, 2005

All this time I've been following the game and I never thought to check twitter. I had a feeling it was some censorship thing that wouldn't happen here.

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

Neon Knight posted:

Jaffe confirmed on twitter that this is true for Euro copies of Twisted Metal, because that was the case with the original TM Black for that territory.

Well, gently caress that noise. If I remember right, the reason for that was them cutting costs on manufacturing, so they released it on a CD minus all the cutscenes rather than do a proper DVD release.

We're so beyond the PAL/NTSC divide now that there is no reasonable reason to NOT offer the full US version of the game now.

Ein Bear
Mar 26, 2010

Oh Sirrah, how deliciously absurd!

Neon Knight posted:

Jaffe confirmed on twitter that this is true for Euro copies of Twisted Metal, because that was the case with the original TM Black for that territory.

Oh gently caress off. This is the same terrible excuse that's given for why we're stuck with crappy 50hz PS1 classics. Just release the US versions! :argh:

Neon Knight
Jan 14, 2009
I imagine the fact that those cutscenes were never localized or rated in those territories would make them not worth the bother. Jaffe would probably cite the reason he decided not to do 14 story ending videos for the current game - people will just look them up on Youtube anyway.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Yechezkel posted:

I just finished all of God of War Origins. All platinum on all God of War games for me. :hellyeah:

Ghost of Sparta is a great game and anyone that enjoyed the past God of War games should play it. Even without the high-resolution updates, I don't know how Ready At Dawn managed to make some of those environments on a PSP.

Thera's Bane, adding flames, sticky bombs and more damage with the blades, was the best God of War weapon I've used. It made it possible to follow every parry with an instant sticky bomb. Then when they try to attack you again, the bomb explodes, and some of them get knocked out for a few seconds. The Spartan shield and spear were also great weapons, but the game never mentioned that they were more powerful than the blades. I found that out after reading a guide.

There was some talk in here about how Kratos was always angry in other God of War games. He wasn't always angry in this game. He was very calm throughout his walk through Sparta, even thanking some soldiers for their loyalty. After Kratos freed Deimos, Deimos started beating up Kratos for taking too long to save him. Kratos just gave a blank stare at Deimos, not wanting to hurt him while getting beat up. After Deimos dies in the end, Kratos slowly carries Deimos to a grave near the entrance to Olympus.

I didn't like that the game teased co-op play with Deimos, but it was only with the final battle. I would have loved to replay the game with co-op.

The game finally revealed who the grave digger from God of War really was: Surprise, it was Zeus. But this was only shown after getting all the items in a unlocked temple and grabbing a relic underneath it.

Chains of Olympus was okay, but it was easy. At least it showed why Persephone was dead in God of War 3.

Also, someone asked when the PSP games exist in the God of War timeline. It goes like this:
Chains of Olympus (Kratos: "I am just a slave to the gods :(")
God of War
Ghost of Sparta (Sparta soldiers: "All hail Lord Kratos, the god of war!")
God of War 2
God of War 3

poo poo, I'm just finishing up God of War Collection and now you're making me want to play Origins before I finally open God of War 3. And I already played all of these games in their original form, what is wrong with me :(

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
I honestly can't tell if I'm excited or not for Twisted Metal. It kinda looks like it does too many core things differently to capture what made the original games so awesome, but hopefully I'm wrong.

Good on them for releasing a demo, though, so we can all know for sure.

Sex Vicar
Oct 11, 2007

I thought this was a swingers party...

Dominic White posted:

Well, gently caress that noise. If I remember right, the reason for that was them cutting costs on manufacturing, so they released it on a CD minus all the cutscenes rather than do a proper DVD release.

We're so beyond the PAL/NTSC divide now that there is no reasonable reason to NOT offer the full US version of the game now.

Actually 9/11 happened and then a mental health charity in Britain caught wind of the game and complained to Sony and it all went to hell. The cutscenes were stripped out and it was released quietly without fanfare. I'd imagine getting the whole game re-rated and possibly having to piss around in Germany to get the cutscenes back in wasn't worth the hassle, especially at a late stage like this. At least Jaffe managed to get it in instead of Europe getting nothing this time though (Get Head On: Extra Twisted edition on PSN as a US import please thanks).

Demo will also be on Europe PSN on Wednesday as well though Jaffe said he's not sure if they are region locking the servers for the demo. They are unlocked for the full game but the demo is mostly a "Stress Test" kind of deal and demo servers will be shut down on the 8th.

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
Thanks everyone for the input on Splatterhouse. I went ahead and picked it up and played the first two phases, and I'm digging the hell out of it. Part of that might be caused by the fact that I have a soft spot for the original 16-bit games (having your mom tell you that you are expressly forbidden from renting something will have that effect, I guess).

I'm playing on the hardest available difficulty mode, which I'm hoping doesn't turn out to be a mistake. I'm definitely having a lot more fun with this than I did with, say, Castlevania: LoS, which is part of a franchise I have an even bigger soft spot for. The combat's crappier than Castlevania, but it's also not as overwrought and serious and annoying. The voice acting is definitely doing a lot to brighten my view of the game, too.

Also it was $10.

Siroc
Oct 10, 2004

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!
I made a shoddy Twisted Metal thread because the demo is supposed to be out today:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3463829&pagenumber=1#lastpost

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


The Simpson arcade game in HD will be out on Playstation Network for PLUS members only next week on 2/7.

http://www.gamespot.com/6349484

Yechezkel
Oct 5, 2004

Fun Shoe
I don't think it will be just for PS+ members. The blog post said nothing about it being a PS+ exclusive.

Along with that game, the PS1 version of Final Fantasy V will be free, Far Cry 2 is going to be free for one week starting on Valentine's Day, and all of the PSN Sega Genesis/Megadrive games will be free again on the week after.

These Bluray games are getting download versions next month:
Grand Theft Auto IV, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Tom Clancy’S H.A.W.X 2, and Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

The House of the Dead 3, with Move support, is also confirmed for a PSN release next month

PS+ in Europe is getting similar freebies, along with a 50% discount on the download of Rayman Origins.

Tamagod Sushi
Oct 26, 2009

One Bad Muthapaca
:siren:Do you want to try Resident Evil 6 before anyone else?:siren: Are you that person who bought Zone of the Enders just for the MGS2 demo?

Then you're going to love Dragon's Dogma, which is releasing with a RE6 demo code that you can redeem at a later time!

Also here's a story trailer: Link The game's graphics seem to alternate between Slightly-Prettier-PS2-Polygons and Not-too-Shabby



Edit: Holy crap Rayman Origins for half price? Everyone pick it up :swoon:

Tamagod Sushi fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 31, 2012

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Dragon's Dogma is my #1 anticipated game this year aside from Mass Effect 3. That only sweetens the pot :)

Says the RE6 demo is coming around June.

Pandanaut
May 26, 2007

goin to the fuckin moon

Tamagod Sushi posted:

:siren:Do you want to try Resident Evil 6 before anyone else?:siren: Are you that person who bought Zone of the Enders just for the MGS2 demo?

Then you're going to love Dragon's Dogma, which is releasing with a RE6 demo code that you can redeem at a later time!

What sucks, though, is that the 360 has a 60 day exclusivity agreement for the demo. PS3 users don't get to play it until September.

Ah well, Dragon's Dogma looks really cool to me anyway.

E:

Harlock posted:

Dragon's Dogma is my #1 anticipated game this year aside from Mass Effect 3. That only sweetens the pot :)

Says the RE6 demo is coming around June.

That's for the 360.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Pandanaut posted:

That's for the 360.
Well that's silly! :(

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Yeah Dragon's Dogma looks like an almost ideal game for me. Just the amount of visual customization you can do on your main character is amazing, looks beyond any game yet. Climbing around on giant enemies and keeping them busy while your teammates fill them with arrows looks awesome.

...and yet, on 2ch there are all these people who assume it will suck. I don't understand why.

edit: Well there is one thing: the idea that the game was clearly made to access the Western audience, and that sometimes means they don't know what the hell they're doing (see Quantum Theory, etc). Also the thread over there has the usual bickering about Western vs. Japanese games.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 31, 2012

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

Posted earlier in the games recommendation thread, and I just realised that it fits here as well. I'm looking for a 2-player 2D platformer on PS3 to play together with my mother. For reference she loves Donkey Kong and Kirby on the Wii, and I heard her say good things about Rayman as well. I have no familiarity with platformers on the PS3 so any suggestion is welcome, old or new doesn't matter.

The only recommendation I got from the thread was Little Big Planet, I played the demo for the original and it was neat. Assuming stock maps only (connecting my PS3 to the net is a pain), is LBP 1 or 2 to prefer?

Tamagod Sushi
Oct 26, 2009

One Bad Muthapaca

kissekatt posted:

Posted earlier in the games recommendation thread, and I just realised that it fits here as well. I'm looking for a 2-player 2D platformer on PS3 to play together with my mother. For reference she loves Donkey Kong and Kirby on the Wii, and I heard her say good things about Rayman as well. I have no familiarity with platformers on the PS3 so any suggestion is welcome, old or new doesn't matter.

The only recommendation I got from the thread was Little Big Planet, I played the demo for the original and it was neat. Assuming stock maps only (connecting my PS3 to the net is a pain), is LBP 1 or 2 to prefer?

Rayman Origins, Trine 1 and 2, Lara Croft and the Guardian of light are all really neat platformers with co-op play, so check those out. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but the others will point you in the right direction :) Get LBP2 because the tools are more powerful which means a lot better levels from creators.


Edit: Sorry, re-read your post. If it's offline then atleast LBP2 has a story mode, but if it's cheap grab them both. You'll miss out a lot if you don't have online though. Rayman Origins has a disc release which you can find on Amazon for real cheap, but the other games are on the PSN :(

Tamagod Sushi fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 31, 2012

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah Dragon's Dogma looks like an almost ideal game for me. Just the amount of visual customization you can do on your main character is amazing, looks beyond any game yet. Climbing around on giant enemies and keeping them busy while your teammates fill them with arrows looks awesome.

...and yet, on 2ch there are all these people who assume it will suck. I don't understand why.

edit: Well there is one thing: the idea that the game was clearly made to access the Western audience, and that sometimes means they don't know what the hell they're doing (see Quantum Theory, etc).

I'm loving all the Dark Souls vibe I'm getting from it. No other game set to release this year has produced such a feeling.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Tamagod Sushi posted:

Trine 1 and 2, Lara Croft and the Guardian of light are all really neat platformers with co-op play, so check those out.
I bought these games because they were recommended by you guys, but nobody plays them online at all so it's been worthless so far and I'm mad at all of you. :mad:

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Dragon's Dogma is kind of like a combo PSO/Shadow of the Colossus/Dark Souls/Generic Action game. I find that mix of genres to be awesome and quite inviting if the customization holds up. I feel like it could be really great or fall flat like White Knight Chronicles.

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a rootbeer?
EDIT: ^^^ yep, totally. It's on my list, but will it actually be good? Who knows.

Crows Turn Off posted:

I bought these games because they were recommended by you guys, but nobody plays them online at all so it's been worthless so far and I'm mad at all of you. :mad:
You need to make actual friends if you want to play co-op games, usually.

I didn't even realize Guardian of Light had an online co-op mode, for instance. I've always just played it with in-person friends. Ditto for Rayman, and Trine. I guess I did use online co-op for Portal 2, but only so that my sister could play on the PC and I could play on the TV (split screen is for suckers).

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Shalinor posted:

You need to make actual friends if you want to play co-op games, usually.
I specified online coop and those were the (poor) suggestions. I don't play a lot of local coop games because my friends and I go and do things outside instead. I play games maybe 5 hours a week, but I love online coop when I do.

Thankfully, RE5 was also suggested which does still have people playing it.

Crows Turn Off fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jan 31, 2012

MelvinTheJerk
Jun 4, 2001

I'm still here.

MelvinTheJerk posted:

Three PS3 games I want in the next three months:

Never Dead: You're immortal. Also a Dick. I think it's the apocalypse. Your body parts come off and you can attach your arms to your head and shoot demons. Holy poo poo.

Cross posting this from the games thread, but short answer is I was wrong. Maybe.

Okay, so this is a VERY early review, but it's just kind of my initial impressions.

For everything right the game does, it does at least one thing to gently caress it up.

As an example, the whole being immortal thing is pretty cool. No health bars is an interesting concept. Except that a lot of the game is an escort mission and you need to revive Arcadia constantly. Which actually isn't that bad. The real problem comes from the fact that literally every enemy in game can dismember you with a single attack, which takes you out of the action constantly since you need to dive onto your body parts to get them back. But since the enemies never stop attacking you'll get a body part back only to instantly lose it again.

The biggest offense though is that the game needs to have a game over screen somehow, so it introduces these monsters who exist solely for the purpose of eating your head. Again, this takes you out of the action pretty badly because you have to sit through a quick screen and hit a marker which pops up suddenly, something like a rhythm game. you get one try and if you gently caress up (and you WILL gently caress up) you go back to the check point to fight the monsters again.

Combat revolves around two classics: Dual guns and a big gently caress off sword. Again, these are battle tested choices, they're almost impossible to gently caress up. People like guns and swords. See: Dante, Deadpool, the other 1,500 gun and sword characters. The problem is that you run out of bullets constantly, so you need to resort to using the sword. No problem there, except instead of just pressing a button to swing the sword, you need to hold like L1 and then waggle the R stick, and it just doesn't work that well to begin with. to make matters worse, you need both arms and at least one leg to swing the sword, and if you were reading the part about losing limbs all the drat time, you get the picture.

Lastly, a cool part of the combat is the destruction of the property to around you. There must be about 500 oxygen tanks in the first area alone, which is great because they explode. The problem is that what you can destroy is highly inconsistent. Example: I can swing my sword and bust up a whole bunch of masonry, just bringing down entire structures on my head and my foes heads. Yet, I can't knock over a chain link fence. There's literally no way to learn if you can destroy something until you try.

The game seems so close to being really fun that I want to keep playing it to see if it gets better. The characters, story, dialogue, etc,; are absurdly hammy. And I just spent $65 on this game, so I'd really like to get past the first area before coming down too hard on it. Bottom line, if the combat issues get better, i.e. I can use my XP to buy abilities that don't make me explode every two seconds, I think the game will be a lot better. If not, the game will likely be unplayable. If you put a gun to my head right now though I'd tell you to skip it. We'll see.

Ein Bear
Mar 26, 2010

Oh Sirrah, how deliciously absurd!
Timed exclusivity on that Resident Evil demo is the stupidest thing.

At least last-gen you had genuine third-party exclusives that would make you want to buy the console. It made sense, and you can see why Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo would moneyhat people into making these deals - you'd think "Oh, I'd love to play the Metal Gear Solid series, I'll buy a Playstation!" or "Bioware RPGs? Awesome, I'll get an Xbox!"

Now you just get small petty poo poo like demos or DLC coming out slightly earlier on one console than another, or one version of the game having an insignificant extra mission that the other doesn't have. It's not going to persuade anyone to buy any hardware or anything, it just punishes half your fanbase and makes them feel a bit cheated.

Scyron
Aug 27, 2005

I am sure a hacker knows all about rewarding and accomplished behavior. I mean, raping a chick with some mickeys is the same is getting laid right? Same result amirite guys? Nothing like work and not having to do it and get that sweet sweet payoff. :smug:

Crows Turn Off posted:

I bought these games because they were recommended by you guys, but nobody plays them online at all so it's been worthless so far and I'm mad at all of you. :mad:

I can play trine 2 whenever.

psn= scyron57 , though a PM on the forums might be easier, since I haven't turned my ps3 on in sometime.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Twisted Metal Demo: Pretty good!

Syndicate Co-op Demo: Pretty bad!

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
You know how I was saying before that the Japanese are still somewhat worried about Dragon's Dogma, because it represents an attempt by a big Japanese publisher to access the foreign market? This is why they are worried, and I suppose we should be too.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
So, since I have a few minutes:

Twisted Metal:

The Good: Old School Gameplay, just like you remember it.


The Bad: Old School Gameplay, just like you remember it.

It's fun, it's fast, it's frantic. It's also floaty, and really hard to see what's happening.


But it IS fun. :)

YamataNoOrochi
Oct 24, 2005

Samurai Sanders posted:

You know how I was saying before that the Japanese are still somewhat worried about Dragon's Dogma, because it represents an attempt by a big Japanese publisher to access the foreign market? This is why they are worried, and I suppose we should be too.

That doesn't quite work though, because Neverdead was developed by Rebellion (British folks responsible for the AvP games), and published by Konami. I thought all the concerns were regarding Japanese developers trying to create games to cater to the western market (Capcom in the case of DD)?

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Dragon's Dogma actually looks kinda cool though. Like some bizarro crossbreed of Breath of Fire, Monster Hunter, and Demon's Souls with an actual RPG plot. I'm really curious to see how it turns out.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

YamataNoOrochi posted:

That doesn't quite work though, because Neverdead was developed by Rebellion (British folks responsible for the AvP games), and published by Konami. I thought all the concerns were regarding Japanese developers trying to create games to cater to the western market (Capcom in the case of DD)?
Oh, I guess I was mistaken, I thought it was Konami developed. Anyway my point stands, when Japanese companies try to stick their neck out and make something like this it usually ends in hilarious failure.

I can still dare to dream though. It appears Capcom is putting more resources into DD than they have any single game before. It's the most ambitious thing they have done since...maybe ever. If they CAN put it off it can be a symbol of Japan's game biz getting back on the ball. If they can't then Japan just continues its decline into irrelevance.

YamataNoOrochi
Oct 24, 2005

Samurai Sanders posted:

Oh, I guess I was mistaken, I thought it was Konami developed. Anyway my point stands, when Japanese companies try to stick their neck out and make something like this it usually ends in hilarious failure.

I can still dare to dream though. It appears Capcom is putting more resources into DD than they have any single game before. It's the most ambitious thing they have done since...maybe ever. If they CAN put it off it can be a symbol of Japan's game biz getting back on the ball. If they can't then Japan just continues its decline into irrelevance.

I've got the same concerns, but I'm hoping DD turns out to be good. I think all they really need to do is put a western spin on Monster Hunter, and that looks like what they are doing.

I own a copy of their last overly ambitious commercial failure, and it's definitely one of the best games I've ever played.

Alabama Blacksnake
Aug 9, 2005

But it ain't too goddamned beaucoup.

Feenix posted:

Twisted Metal:

The Good: Old School Gameplay, just like you remember it.


The Bad: Old School Gameplay, just like you remember it.

It seems like it takes a little too long to resolve battles between vehicles, and I honestly can't remember if it's the same as it always was or what. I realize this isn't MW2, and I'm not looking for "one shot one kill" type bullshit, but it feels like the weapons just don't have very much oomph to them. It kind of bums me out because I think they nailed both the vehicle handling and the dumbass juggalo vibe that I expect from a Twisted Metal game. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Starhawk, on the other hand, plays just like I hoped it would.

Siroc
Oct 10, 2004

Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

Alabama Blacksnake posted:

It seems like it takes a little too long to resolve battles between vehicles, and I honestly can't remember if it's the same as it always was or what. I realize this isn't MW2, and I'm not looking for "one shot one kill" type bullshit, but it feels like the weapons just don't have very much oomph to them. It kind of bums me out because I think they nailed both the vehicle handling and the dumbass juggalo vibe that I expect from a Twisted Metal game. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Starhawk, on the other hand, plays just like I hoped it would.

You aren't necessarily supposed to kill or be killed in every encounter. If you want a win or loss after each, this isn't your game and there are plenty of options for you.

MUFFlNS
Mar 7, 2004

I told you assholes that Twisted Metal would be amazing <:mad:>

Regarding weapon damage, you need to consider that health does not regenerate in this game and pickups to recover it are rare. If weapons did too much damage it would really upset the flow of the game. As it is right now, combat in the game is decided on skill rather than who fired the first shot, and that's a good thing.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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New Releases This Month

February 7th, 2012

The Darkness II (Horror/FPS) $59.99 MSRP


Fallout New Vegas: Ultimate Edition (FPS/RPG) $49.99 MSRP


Jak and Daxter Collection (Action/Adventure/Platforming) $39.99 MSRP


Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (Action/RPG) $59.99 MSRP

February 14th, 2012

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend (Fighting) $39.99 MSRP


UFC Undisputed 3 (Sports/Fighting) $59.99 MSRP


Twisted Metal (Vehicle Combat) $59.99 MSRP


Grand Slam Tennis 2 (Sports/Tennis) $49.99 MSRP

February 21st

Asura's Wrath (Action) $59.99 MSRP

February 28th

Binary Domain (Shooter/Third Person) $59.99 MSRP


Hyperdimension Neptunia MK2 (RPG) $59.99 MSRP


Mortal Kombat: Komplete Edition (Fighting) $59.99 MSRP


SSX (Sports/Snowboarding) $59.99 MSRP

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Three new IPs debut this month in Kingdoms of Amalur, Binary Domain, and Asura's Wrath. Longtime favorites SSX and Twisted Metal return to hopefully revive their respective franchises. Rounding the month out is a couple of sequels, Darkness 2 and Hyperdimension, some GOTY editions with MK and Fallout, and another HD remake.

On the horizon, March is going to be a huge month with the highly anticipated Mass Effect 3 along with perennial favorite MLB: The Show 2012.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
NO ONE PUTS SSX IN THE CORNER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST!

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Orzo
Sep 3, 2004

IT! IT is confusing! Say your goddamn pronouns!
Cool, I never played Jak and Daxter and this seems like a pretty good opportunity. I'll almost definitely pick it up.

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