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MATLAB 1988 posted:Everyone wants a TURBO because they anticipate curb weight of 2600 and gross weight of 2 tons after going to Sam's Club. They definitely should honor the car's retro niche and offer late-80s style badging through TRD. I want everyone to know not only that it's a TURBO, but also the number of camshafts and valves.
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an oddly awful oud posted:They definitely should honor the car's retro niche and offer late-80s style badging through TRD. I want everyone to know not only that it's a TURBO, but also the number of camshafts and valves. This is perfect, if it has an engine badge there will be a 4 in it as well.
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Jan 31, 2012 13:48
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Then it will all end with a two-tone paint option and pop-up headlight conversion kit.
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Jan 31, 2012 15:44
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OK how about "buying a non-turbo new of this gen at any point" edit: i guess to clarify my point here: this is an enthusiasts forum of people who can appreciate this car and have been clamoring for something similar for years. if it doesn't sell here, it probably won't sell too well at all, and if it doesn't sell, we'll never get anything good. we wonder why lovely midsizers and baby CUVs sell so well and then when anyone actually makes a decent enthusiast oriented car we sure as hell won't buy it. KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jan 31, 2012 |
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Jan 31, 2012 16:01
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an oddly awful oud posted:They definitely should honor the car's retro niche and offer late-80s style badging through TRD. I want everyone to know not only that it's a TURBO, but also the number of camshafts and valves. TWIN CAM 16 VALVE HIGH OUTPUT BOXER (NO TURBO)
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Jan 31, 2012 16:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:OK how about "buying a non-turbo new of this gen at any point" I think people's brains have been broken by 300hp base model Mustangs and 270hp Camry's. Once people actually test drive the non-turbo one I think they'll be pleasantly surprised. This thing should be faster than my WRX (not 0-60, but in every other fashion) and a lot easier to drive on a daily basis being lighter and without turbo lag, so I think it'd be fast enough for me for sure. As soon as my WRX is paid off we're getting one (unless my wife is down with just trading the WRX in on it, but I think we need the hauling capacity for now. After we sell the house we may not.)
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Jan 31, 2012 16:37
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Well, speaking for myself, I'm not going to buy one because my current car is less than two years old and has under 20,000km. But the Subaru will definitely be in contention when I do replace it, and if I really really love it on a test-drive, who can say what might happen? The power issue is slightly disappointing, but not a deal-breaker (although, for less power and weight than my current car, I would expect better fuel economy).
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Jan 31, 2012 17:27
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:
Hell, it may actually be faster (or at least as fast) as my '02 WRX and handle much better. I am seriously considering getting rid of my '02 WRX, keeping the '11 and getting a BRZ to complement it. My greatest obstacle right now is I don't have a way to keep two cars under cover and I don't want to put the '11 outside with no protection since it's so new.
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Jan 31, 2012 17:52
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Not buying a first model-year isn't about being a cheapass; it's about letting someone else deal with teething issues.MiniFoo posted:Then it will all end with a two-tone paint option and pop-up headlight conversion kit. Someone photoshop some pop-ups onto the car. I just can't picture it. PS: I give it one month after release for someone to slap a TIMBO badge on one of these. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 31, 2012 |
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Jan 31, 2012 19:45
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Dick Burglar posted:Not buying a first model-year isn't about being a cheapass; it's about letting someone else deal with teething issues. Nah, for me, it's strictly about avoiding taking a bath on the price. I would say my own chances of buying a first year are 20%, expect it to go up to 50% after an awesome test drive.
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Jan 31, 2012 20:11
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OK, I give in, what the gently caress is TIMBO? Urban Dictionary isn't of much help...
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Jan 31, 2012 21:16
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It's a turbo. Didn't it come from that stupid unreadable porsche badge?
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Jan 31, 2012 21:20
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Specifically the too-italicized knockoffs of the Porsche badge.
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bolind posted:OK, I give in, what the gently caress is TIMBO? Urban Dictionary isn't of much help...  e: compare to a proper Porsche one: 
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Jan 31, 2012 21:23
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bolind posted:OK, I give in, what the gently caress is TIMBO? Urban Dictionary isn't of much help... Some after market badges say timbo.  It's suppose to resemble the "Turbo' script on Porsches, although as far as I can tell the badge on actual Porsches don't look like that.
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Jan 31, 2012 21:24
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Dunno why there's so many wondering if they would fit in this thing, the last time there was a AI Post Yourself thread it turned out AI Goons were remarkably normal and a very high percentage actually quite fit. This subset of people are probably the last lot of humans I would expect to have issues. Issues fitting in the car, not issues as in axe murderer kind.
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Jan 31, 2012 22:37
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I'll be buying one, hopefully in August when I should have the money for everything. I've been following this car for so long it's not even an option anymore. I've resigned myself to paying MSRP, but if they try to tack on "market adjustment" bullshit then I guess I'll just wait for the 2014 model year  That TIMBO badge is loving awesome. I love when proof reading fails like that.
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Cat Terrist posted:Dunno why there's so many wondering if they would fit in this thing, the last time there was a AI Post Yourself thread it turned out AI Goons were remarkably normal and a very high percentage actually quite fit. This subset of people are probably the last lot of humans I would expect to have issues. Some of us are pretty tall. I can't fit in a lot of small cars like the Miata, the S2000, and I can't fit well enough to use a clutch in many others. I have a 34" inseam, so legroom is very necessary, moreso than room for my torso. Happily, it looks like that won't be an issue in this car.
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Jan 31, 2012 22:42
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Rabble posted:I'll be buying one ... I've been following this car for so long it's not even an option anymore. This is me, right here. Might as well get it when it comes out so I can resign my RX-7 to restoration (pipe dream). I've always wanted to have car payments for a few years anyway! Dick Burglar posted:Someone photoshop some pop-ups onto the car. I just can't picture it. I'll get right on this when I get home.
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Jan 31, 2012 22:47
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Cat Terrist posted:Dunno why there's so many wondering if they would fit in this thing, the last time there was a AI Post Yourself thread it turned out AI Goons were remarkably normal and a very high percentage actually quite fit. This subset of people are probably the last lot of humans I would expect to have issues.
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Cat Terrist posted:Dunno why there's so many wondering if they would fit in this thing, the last time there was a AI Post Yourself thread it turned out AI Goons were remarkably normal and a very high percentage actually quite fit. This subset of people are probably the last lot of humans I would expect to have issues. To be fair I am a pretty normal height and width and I cant get comfortable in a subaru liberty for the life of me. to make my legs comfortable at the pedals I have to have my arms fully extended. I havent tried in other subarus, but my parents old 94 liberty, their new 03 outback and 05 GT are all the same for me. It doesnt seem to be an issue with other manufacturers.
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Jan 31, 2012 23:12
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I, too, sat in this thing at the Washington Auto show and the height wasn't a problem. However, I am wide (fat) so the bolsters where a bit too narrow for me. Otherwise I would have been fine with it. In mildly related news, they also had the Focus ST, and I'm actually very strongly considering a purchase when they come out, though I may wait for 2014 models to hit.
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Hog Obituary posted:e: compare to a proper Porsche one: All I can see is twrbo from that angle
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Endless Mike posted:I, too, sat in this thing at the Washington Auto show and the height wasn't a problem. However, I am wide (fat) so the bolsters where a bit too narrow for me. Otherwise I would have been fine with it. Seconding this - I'm 6'2" and pretty slim, and the kidney and shoulder bolsters fit me perfectly. Which is going to be a problem for many others.
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I love this car but I don't know if I'll fit. I'm 4'9" and 90lbs, can I sit on phonebooks and tie blocks to my sneakers? Carseat chat   are those rear lights going to be on the US model? I didn't think we had rear fogs.
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bidikyoopi posted:
I assume those are reverse lights with the third brake light in the middle. The white looking lights next inside the taillights are turn signals.
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bidikyoopi posted:I love this car but I don't know if I'll fit. I'm 4'9" and 90lbs, can I sit on phonebooks and tie blocks to my sneakers? Carseat chat Pretty sure those are the reverse lights, the new minis have similar placement. Those tail lights are ugly as hell though, I thought Subaru had finally gotten over the Altezza light thing.
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law abiding rapist posted:Those tail lights are ugly as hell though, I thought Subaru had finally gotten over the Altezza light thing. The ones on the concept looked a million times better: 
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Feb 1, 2012 01:22
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Wow, yeah. That is one hell of a downgrade from concept to production. 
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For even more of a change, one of the FR-S concepts from a while back: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/20/new-york-2011-scion-fr-s-concept-is-friggin-really-sweet/
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It's surprisingly true to the concept shown there though, IMO. the only real changes were to the lights and wheels. From the headlights back to the tailgate that's what it looks like now.
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Feb 1, 2012 04:47
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It got toned down like all concepts ever but there's a ton of resemblance.
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an oddly awful oud posted:They definitely should honor the car's retro niche and offer late-80s style badging through TRD. I want everyone to know not only that it's a TURBO, but also the number of camshafts and valves. My 1990 Integra has DOHC engraved on the rub strips on the front quarter panels 
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kimbo305 posted:Nah, for me, it's strictly about avoiding taking a bath on the price. I would say my own chances of buying a first year are 20%, expect it to go up to 50% after an awesome test drive. This forum is full of dudes that are cheap and/or poor. And because of the size it'd be a struggle to use as an only car for many people. Economically it's got to be the worst time to release a new non-prestige car with limited practicality since at least the early 80s.
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http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1137quote:According to this report from site member AVOturboworld’s Japan office, who has just had conversations with Subaru of Japan and Toyota of Japan, the pre-order numbers for the Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86 are already very impressive.
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ROFLBOT posted:http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1137 That keeps up, guess what Nissan's going to do a revival of. I know some of you were hoping really good sales figures of the 86/BRZ/FRS to make them pull the trigger, welp..
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Feb 1, 2012 09:29
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ROFLBOT posted:http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1137 This is good news. I hope the cars are greeted with this type of enthusiasm in other markets.
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Feb 1, 2012 10:03
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It'll win a bunch of sports car of the year / 10best type awards when it comes out based on how much auto journalists are creaming themselves over this thing, so even if it starts slow here it'll pick up.
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I sure hope the price is at the end of the superbowl ad that Scion put together.
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