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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
Rachael vs Guy ended with a Zagat critique of 2 restaurants. :allears:

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Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Toffile posted:

Rachael vs Guy ended with a Zagat critique of 2 restaurants. :allears:

...that was embarrassing to watch.

Coolio's meltdown was adorable, though. COMFY CHAIRS

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Ozmaugh posted:

...that was embarrassing to watch.

Coolio's meltdown was adorable, though. COMFY CHAIRS

And partially warranted. Hey let's have a cooking competition be decided by interior decorating and restaurant management. :v:

That being said, still shocked that Coolio can cook (really well apparently.)

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Ozmaugh posted:

...that was embarrassing to watch.

Coolio's meltdown was adorable, though. COMFY CHAIRS

It amazed me how they tried to give pithy Zagat reviews to both but pretty much said "gently caress it" when it came to the second one.

"There are people who would dream of 23 stars [on a dumbed down scale] from Zagat in NYC"

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
Was the show doing really bad, and that's why they bundled the last two episodes together?

Also, I'm not the only one who felt the competition was fixed, was I? Lou Diamond Phillips is a regular judge on Iron Chef, and his chosen charity was the same one that Food Network backs. How could he NOT win?

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

Jamesman posted:

Was the show doing really bad, and that's why they bundled the last two episodes together?

I'm kind of curious, but I imagine that can't have been the plan unless they planned on either going up against the superbowl (no way) or airing the finale right before the premiere of Worst Cooks in America.

Fixed, no, but I can't really imagine how anyone else could have won that.

The episode of Chopped that they had on right after it was amazing. Do they prompt people to tell the worst thing that's happened to them in interviews? A guy chooses cooking over his wife, a woman goes on national TV to talk about how her brother bullied her and told her she can't succeed at anything. Neat.

Elliot Rosewater
Feb 15, 2005
Squee!

Jamesman posted:

Was the show doing really bad, and that's why they bundled the last two episodes together?

Also, I'm not the only one who felt the competition was fixed, was I? Lou Diamond Phillips is a regular judge on Iron Chef, and his chosen charity was the same one that Food Network backs. How could he NOT win?

The second last episode had Guy and Rachael's friends and family determining which one member from each team would be staying on. This didn't really seem to make sense with the rest of the competition where anyone from either team could get eliminated. Like what if Team Rachael had won all the previous weeks? If they were going to have a final two, they should have just had a final two from either team and arrrrgggghhhhhhhhh

So did they rig it or did they just not think it through? Either way my guess is yeah, they bundled the last two because the show was doing badly.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Ratings-wise, Rachael vs. Guy was a pretty clear success, a top-ten cable show, so that's not it.

Of course, content-wise, Rachael vs. Guy was a miserable failure of epic proportions but that won't stop season 2!

Kung Fu Jesus
Jun 20, 2002

lol jews gonna get fucked.

Ozmaugh posted:

The episode of Chopped that they had on right after it was amazing. Do they prompt people to tell the worst thing that's happened to them in interviews? A guy chooses cooking over his wife, a woman goes on national TV to talk about how her brother bullied her and told her she can't succeed at anything. Neat.

Its been a recent trend. They always ask why the chefs are competing. And their answers have gotten more and more rediculous. Everyone's got a dying parent they haven't seen or dad died the day before.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

I'm competing because this person I barely know had cancer and it was super upsetting, y'all.

Elliot Rosewater
Feb 15, 2005
Squee!

ashpanash posted:

Ratings-wise, Rachael vs. Guy was a pretty clear success, a top-ten cable show, so that's not it.

Of course, content-wise, Rachael vs. Guy was a miserable failure of epic proportions but that won't stop season 2!

I didn't believe you about the ratings, so I looked it up.

I...how? Why?

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

spidoman posted:

And partially warranted. Hey let's have a cooking competition be decided by interior decorating and restaurant management. :v:

That being said, still shocked that Coolio can cook (really well apparently.)

Coolio wrote a cookbook and did a cooking show that I watched during 2008. Really want to buy his cookbook.

gyrobot fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Feb 2, 2012

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Elliot Rosewater posted:

I didn't believe you about the ratings, so I looked it up.

I...how? Why?
The audience for both of those people is enormous, for whatever reason.

mwells_cubed
Aug 7, 2003

WOW

gyrobot posted:

Coolio wrote a cookbook and did a cooking show that I watched during 2008. Really want to buy his cookbook.

I have his cookbook and it's not bad, definitely tends closer to the casual side of cooking, but that's what I like about it. Most of the dishes he made on the show are also in his cookbook, so if there's something on the show you liked, it's most likely in the cookbook too. I plan on making the soul rolls soon. :c00l:

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Elliot Rosewater posted:

I didn't believe you about the ratings, so I looked it up.

I...how? Why?

It aired at 9 PM on a Sunday. There's nothing else on now after the NFL ended its regular season.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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I know it's been brought up previously, but GODDAMN, watching Scott Conant bitch like a spoiled child when any tiny shaving of red onion is present on his plate is one of the most obnoxious things I've ever seen. I'm really starting to hate Chopped.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

I know it's been brought up previously, but GODDAMN, watching Scott Conant bitch like a spoiled child when any tiny shaving of red onion is present on his plate is one of the most obnoxious things I've ever seen. I'm really starting to hate Chopped.

It's so pathetic. I actually don't like it either but you're judging a loving cooking competition, man up.


This episode is sad, though. But seriously, plantain banana bread was going to be awful anyway.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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QuickbreathFinisher posted:

I know it's been brought up previously, but GODDAMN, watching Scott Conant bitch like a spoiled child when any tiny shaving of red onion is present on his plate is one of the most obnoxious things I've ever seen. I'm really starting to hate Chopped.
Which is hilarious to me because these judges have eaten some pretty disgusting things meat-wise before. But red onion? Now you've crossed the line!

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
Raw red onion is his kryptonite. He shrivels up and dies like a slug in beer when it gets near him.

Is it his own personal distaste, or is it a legitimately bad thing for a chef to do? A LOT of the chefs on Chopped seem to do it, so there must be some precedent for it and some people must enjoy it in that form as an element, so it would seem like the latter. But drat, does he acts like everyone that does it is some sort of monster.

And speaking of Chopped, the one I'm watching now has a recovering alcoholic on it, and one of the rounds had alcohol as a basket ingredient. Dick move, Food Network.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

FlamingLiberal posted:

Which is hilarious to me because these judges have eaten some pretty disgusting things meat-wise before. But red onion? Now you've crossed the line!

Alex Guarnaschelli's face practically lights up when it's testicles, I've noticed.

Isn't there another judge who gets upset at raw red onion?

I love it. I put it on burgers and sometimes make a white trash salad of baby spinach, raw red onion, tomato and frozen breaded calamari, with balsamic vinegar.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Jamesman posted:

Is it his own personal distaste, or is it a legitimately bad thing for a chef to do? A LOT of the chefs on Chopped seem to do it, so there must be some precedent for it and some people must enjoy it in that form as an element, so it would seem like the latter. But drat, does he acts like everyone that does it is some sort of monster.

Just kinda dumping anything bright like it on a meal is kinda a cheap way to add 'vibrant color' to a meal and hope to coast on 'well it LOOKS nice', but no it's almost 100% personal distaste making him a giant manbaby about it. Chopped is total poo poo.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Jamesman posted:

And speaking of Chopped, the one I'm watching now has a recovering alcoholic on it, and one of the rounds had alcohol as a basket ingredient. Dick move, Food Network.

They're always doing it to the people with deadly allergies, too. Giving seafood to people who are allergic to touching any kind of shellfish is really a dick move. Shouldn't there be some kind of control that goes through what the chefs can and can't deal with?

I saw the alcoholic one and remember noting that the guy would mention his problem at every interview step, to the point where it was basically all I knew about him. Recovering alcoholic, got it, now please talk about something else? It made him just seem... whiny?

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Understand that they have to try to build some sort of story arc among the hours of video they shot. It's possible that the only thing they could find interesting about the guy was his alcoholism. Or that was the best narrative thread.

As much as classic TV is writer driven, reality TV is editor driven.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

ashpanash posted:

Understand that they have to try to build some sort of story arc among the hours of video they shot. It's possible that the only thing they could find interesting about the guy was his alcoholism. Or that was the best narrative thread.

As much as classic TV is writer driven, reality TV is editor driven.

Yea they want to drive in GUYS, GUYS, HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC, REMEMBER THIS, THIS MAKES HIS STORY GRIPPING, GO ALCOHOLIC!

AAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIC!

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

The_Doctor posted:

I saw the alcoholic one and remember noting that the guy would mention his problem at every interview step, to the point where it was basically all I knew about him. Recovering alcoholic, got it, now please talk about something else? It made him just seem... whiny?

Recovering alcoholics, at least most of the ones I've known, are always this way.

cjg
Sep 5, 2003

Jamesman posted:

And speaking of Chopped, the one I'm watching now has a recovering alcoholic on it, and one of the rounds had alcohol as a basket ingredient. Dick move, Food Network.

Didn't he also choose to use MORE alcohol that wasn't a main ingredient? He seemed almost proud that "I don't have this stuff at home, but it's here so I'll use it! I won't taste it to see if my dish is crappy or not, but I'll use it!"

The kid with the red onion was a total douche. I have little sympathy when they don't listen to the judges after the first round. What the heck was the comment about the vegan sauce? "I'm glad I was able to make the sauce vegan. Yeah, the one I wanted them to use with the big hunk of meat."

I was happy that the guy who had to reschedule because his father died didn't bring that up during the competition. I'm not interested in their personal lives/issues. I just want to see them cook. I'm sure I'm not a normal viewer though. I wouldn't be surprised if the average viewer LOVED all that fluff.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

If I had the chance to cook for Scott Conant I'd make a raw onion and bell pepper relish and serve him a pint glass of it just to be a dick.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Jamesman posted:

And speaking of Chopped, the one I'm watching now has a recovering alcoholic on it, and one of the rounds had alcohol as a basket ingredient. Dick move, Food Network.
Or when one of the chefs is a devout Jew or Muslim. Then it's all pork for you, buddy!

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Bonzo posted:

Recovering alcoholics, at least most of the ones I've known, are always this way.

I don't get people like that -- they act like martyrs. I see entirely too many of them on a daily basis.

I'm an alcoholic in recovery, sober nearly three years, but I keep cooking wine in the house, and my wife keeps whiskey (loves her Irish coffees) and wine, but I don't walk around telling everyone I see "HEY I AM A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC DO YOU SEE TELL ME THAT YOU SEE PLEASE VALIDATE MY EXISTENCE," or anything like that. It's not that not drinking is a huge point in my life -- it's just that drinking is something I don't do anymore. So, that's that.

Debbie Metallica
Jun 7, 2001

I'm by no means and expert but I imagine that someone who is extremely addicted to something and had their addiction dictate their life feel compelled to continue discussing it simply because of their addictive personalities.

'OK, I don't drink now, but instead of defining my life by the alcohol consumed I now have no choice but to define it by the alcohol I'm not consuming because I'm obviously going to think about booze no matter what.'

Anyway, yeah, it IS tedious to hear about it over and over again on Chopped but I've no doubt they're being prodded for information. It's the thing you need to assume with any reality show: they're not volunteering information about stuff, someone's asking (leading) questions.

You don't necessarily pop in and say "god, I hate this contestant..." but instead someone off camera says "wasn't it annoying to you when ___ went over and did ____? I bet that really bothered you."

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

The_Doctor posted:

They're always doing it to the people with deadly allergies, too. Giving seafood to people who are allergic to touching any kind of shellfish is really a dick move. Shouldn't there be some kind of control that goes through what the chefs can and can't deal with?
The very first episode I saw had one guy getting 2 straight rounds of stuff he was allergic too. He was an absolute mess - red, puffy, and sweaty. Then one of the judges actually had the nerve to say he seemed uncomfortable in his kitchen. Maybe its that I've got a few food allergies and have had some bad reactions so I'm over sensitive but that made the show seem like the worst thing on TV since "Paris Hilton Tours America Making Fun of Hard Working People."

testifeye
Sep 24, 2004

maroon moon

The_Doctor posted:

They're always doing it to the people with deadly allergies, too. Giving seafood to people who are allergic to touching any kind of shellfish is really a dick move. Shouldn't there be some kind of control that goes through what the chefs can and can't deal with?

I just watched one of these episodes, and one of the chefs cooked the shrimp on the rare side. Zakarian said it was so rare that even though he wanted to suck the head he couldn't because it was "bordering on cannibalism." I thought that was a hilarious error on his part considering what scum he has been lately.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
Is that the one with the woman who claimed that if you tried to serve non-rare shrimp in Spain you'd be shamed out of the kitchen? Is there any truth to that?

Eating rare shrimp seems awful, mostly because of the weird squishy texture. And I'm a sashimi and carpaccio nut.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

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Grimey Drawer

criscodisco posted:

Is that the one with the woman who claimed that if you tried to serve non-rare shrimp in Spain you'd be shamed out of the kitchen? Is there any truth to that?

Eating rare shrimp seems awful, mostly because of the weird squishy texture. And I'm a sashimi and carpaccio nut.

That does remind me that the flipside to the judges complaining about everything is the contestants that actually gently caress up and then claim "that's the way I like it" or "that's the way my Mom makes it" or some BS.

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
So the final Good Eats special aired last night about dark chocolate and thus ends Good Eats.

yeah.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe

Jack Skeleton posted:

So the final Good Eats special aired last night about dark chocolate and thus ends Good Eats.

yeah.

I went to bed dreaming about all the things he made and woke up very upset that I didn't have any of them waiting for me. :(

testifeye
Sep 24, 2004

maroon moon

criscodisco posted:

Is that the one with the woman who claimed that if you tried to serve non-rare shrimp in Spain you'd be shamed out of the kitchen? Is there any truth to that?

Yes, that's the episode I saw. I have no idea if there is truth to that, I agree with you the texture sounds weird.

Spigs
Jun 5, 2008
Anyone else checking out Worst Cooks tonight? As much as I can't stand Bobby Flay, I've enjoyed past seasons so I'm going to give it a try.

Tupping Liberty
Mar 17, 2008

Never cross an introvert.

Spigs posted:

Anyone else checking out Worst Cooks tonight? As much as I can't stand Bobby Flay, I've enjoyed past seasons so I'm going to give it a try.

I like it, I'll be watching on DVR anyway. I like Anne Burrell (spelling?) so I always root for her.

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iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

I don't watch much TV anyways on Sundays so I'll give it a shot. I caught a little bit of a marathon they were doing yesterday.

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