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I have thunderbolt display on order. I also have a MacBook pro and an iMac. I'm hoping I can use the MBP with the TB display AND the iMac. And when the MBP is off use it as a second display for the iMac without changing cables. We shall see...
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Your Dead Gay Son posted:I thought you could daisy-chain the thunderbolt displays to each other? Yes you can and that's how it's done but there's a limit to how many you can actually use. The MBP can use two and the Air one. Check this link: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/18/thunderbolt-display-daisy-chaining-spec-cleared-up/
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Feb 9, 2012 01:31
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Joe Don Baker posted:Yay my newly acquired ACMT skills came in handy. This is from the service manual. It's the dark grey thing on the upper left: Yup, that's pretty much exactly where the sound is coming from. Hope my computer doesn't electrocute me in the next week. Thanks.
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Feb 9, 2012 01:56
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Yeah yeah yeah, I know all about buying Apple hardware (waited on new Mac Pros forever, this is my fifth Macbook Pro) but I really, really need a lighter machine and I'm tired of lugging around my 15" i7 MBP. I know the rumors about the 15" Air might not come true, but what's the chances of an Air coming with 8G ram in the next revision? Yes, I know most people never need more than 4G but I run Fusion VMs all the time and honestly I just find it criminal that there isn't an 8G option. I really want to pull the trigger on a 13" right now but the thought of a possible 15" and more ram is making me hesitate. I've been traveling so much lately the big MBP is starting to annoy me, along with the battery life. I really don't know if I can wait until June-ish.
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Feb 9, 2012 02:21
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A Duck! posted:rumor questions Nobody knows.
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Feb 9, 2012 02:33
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If that 15" rumor turns out to be true, I hope it doesn't mean the end of the 11" model 
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Feb 9, 2012 08:41
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Mr. Onslaught posted:If that 15" rumor turns out to be true, I hope it doesn't mean the end of the 11" model It's one of the most popular models. It's not going anywhere.
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Feb 9, 2012 08:52
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Mr. Onslaught posted:You gain access to extra USB ports, Firewire, ethernet, etc. when you plug your laptop into a Cinema Display? I didn't know that. quote:There is a real lack of hands on info about Thunderbolt and Windows, which makes sense I guess. I did come across this unrelated thing though, kind of interesting: MrEnigma posted:I have thunderbolt display on order. I also have a MacBook pro and an iMac. flavor posted:Yes you can and that's how it's done but there's a limit to how many you can actually use. The MBP can use two and the Air one. Check this link: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/09/18/thunderbolt-display-daisy-chaining-spec-cleared-up/
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Feb 9, 2012 09:11
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japtor posted:Nah, just a USB hub on there, along with the speakers and camera/mic. Of course you also had to plug in another cable (USB) to get that along with the MDP cable. The thunderbolt display has USB, ethernet, firewire 800, iSight camera, mic and speakers. The older plain cinema display only had USB/speakers/camera/mic
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Feb 9, 2012 14:27
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japtor posted:It's a limitation of the HD3000, which can only run two displays at a time. Why the 13" MBP can do it (by blanking the internal display) and MBA can't might have to do with the TB chip inside, like the MBA's is a smaller lower power variant or something. There was some article on Anandtech about it a while back. Yea, Eagle Ridge vs Light Ridge, the former being in the MBA and only supporting one DisplayPort output.
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Feb 9, 2012 14:44
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japtor posted:TB Display <> iMac <> MBP? I don't think the iMac will pass through like that, so I'm thinking. MBP <> TBD <> iMac And then part of the time it will be: TBD <> iMac I'm hoping #1 works, and that when I switch to #2 it's seamless.
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Feb 9, 2012 15:12
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Thunderbolt chaining sounds awesome. In theory, it might be reasonable in the future to have a Thunderbolt Display chilling with an external video card hooked up through Thunderbolt. So you're using your ultra thin laptop for whatever, and you want some Serious Gaming time so you plug into the display through Thunderbolt, which is chaining to your external video card, and now you basically have a full powered desktop. I guess the only downside to that is the fact that Thunderbolt enabled video card enclosures will probably be like 400 bucks or something when they start coming out.
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Feb 9, 2012 16:01
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Mr. Onslaught posted:I guess the only downside to that is the fact that Thunderbolt enabled video card enclosures will probably be like 400 bucks or something when they start coming out. $979 (plus shipping & tax). Sonnet was also supposed to make one, but only an ExpressCard slot materialized.
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Feb 9, 2012 16:28
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White Macbook is finally dead. Real dead. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/02/ding-dong-the-white-macbook-is-deadfor-real-this-time.ars Apple's educational division has stopped selling them.
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Feb 9, 2012 17:34
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Edit: Totally the wrong thread. Ignore this.
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Feb 9, 2012 17:48
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I'm running a 27" mid 2011 iMac at work. I'm looking at options for improved hard drive performance. It sounds like putting an SSD into the iMac isn't an option, it would void the warranty to install. However, I guess it has something called thunderbolt built into it? I don't really understand what thunderbolt is, besides some fast port that can handle video and/or data? My questions are: Would getting a thunderbolt hard drive provide huge performance boosts with hard drive intensive tasks? What am I looking for when I'm poking around Amazon and NewEgg for thunderbolt hard drives / hard drive enclosures? Is thunderbolt + SSD an option?
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Feb 9, 2012 20:12
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$899 for a 240GB Thunderbolt-attached SSD http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10549
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Feb 9, 2012 20:23
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Bob Morales posted:$899 for a 240GB Thunderbolt-attached SSD Why is it so expensive? A 240 GB SSD is what, $300-$400 (and I wouldn't need more than 100 GB). I can't imagine an enclosure costing another $500 on top of that.
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Feb 9, 2012 20:33
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1. Premium for Mac accessories 2. ThunderBolt is expensive. Not that expensive, but there's little competition in that space yet so they're commanding a large premium. edit: Also just install the SSD yourself and put the stock drive back if you ever need AppleCare service. That's what I'm going to do before I take my iMac in for a new display.
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Feb 9, 2012 20:37
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:1. Premium for Mac accessories This is for my work iMac, so it will be a tough sell to IT to get them to swap in an SSD like that. Thanks for the info, guys, it was super helpful. I tried using Google, but I was getting lost and confused by the results. edit: Also, asking around, it sounds like I'm actually CPU and not hard drive limited anyways. Chainclaw fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 9, 2012 |
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Feb 9, 2012 20:44
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Today, I've started losing my wireless signal. Except I haven't - the menubar item still looks lit up as normal, but pages don't load, pings fail, and when I click on the item the drop down menu states 'No networks'. If I turn it off, it won't turn back on again. No errors are displayed at any point either. Out of curiosity, I checked the hardware profiler when the problem happened last:  Rebooting fixes the problem temporarily, and hardware profiler shows this:  I happen to have access to my flatmate's 15" i7 MBP which was purchased around four weeks after mine, and his shows this:  Basically, what the hell is going on? I've been meaning to take the machine in for a week or so after a passing Genius visit for some very minor screen discolouration, but workload at the moment means I really can't afford to be without my laptop for a full week. Any suggestions other than dashing to my nearest fruit stand tomorrow?
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Feb 9, 2012 21:05
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Chainclaw posted:. You're probably hard drive limited as well, they've been bottlenecks forever.
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Feb 9, 2012 21:06
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Neurophonic posted::stuff: Something's pretty wrong if you bought your machine new and sealed from a dealer and it's identifying your wireless hardware as third party as opposed to Airport Extreme. Did you try resetting the SMC or resetting the PRAM (hold down command-option-p-r at powerup)?
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Feb 9, 2012 21:25
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Durr beaten ^^ Probably a bad card if the profiler doesn't pick up that it's an Apple card (going by the MAC address) Edit: I correctly used MAC in a Mac thread
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Feb 9, 2012 21:29
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MAC Vendor lookup says it's Apple Inc. according to the first three hex digits so something is definitely hosed.
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Feb 9, 2012 21:43
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Binary Badger posted:MAC Vendor lookup says it's Apple Inc. according to the first three hex digits so something is definitely hosed. Thanks, I kinda knew that but was hoping somebody would have some amazing alternative to having to take it in! Will try the SMC and PRAM anyway, although the 'voodoo' solutions have never really had much luck for me in the past few years. Edit: Well, evidently I spoke way too soon!  Utter madness. Neurophonic fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Feb 9, 2012 |
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Feb 9, 2012 22:15
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My work gave me a $2000 credit to get a new MBP, is there any point in waiting for a refreshment? I heard they might have retina screens which scares me about battery life, but maybe the video cards will be boosted to handle the extra detail? I have a hard time justifying the extra cash I'll have to spend outside my credit to upgrade the video card from 512 to 1 gig, but I want it because I occasionally DJ with music videos and that shits on the CPU.
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Feb 9, 2012 22:49
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OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:My work gave me a $2000 credit to get a new MBP, is there any point in waiting for a refreshment? I heard they might have retina screens which scares me about battery life, but maybe the video cards will be boosted to handle the extra detail? I have a hard time justifying the extra cash I'll have to spend outside my credit to upgrade the video card from 512 to 1 gig, but I want it because I occasionally DJ with music videos and that shits on the CPU. Do you have any need to get the MBP before a certain point? If yes, you may need to get the laptop now, if no, and you can deal with whatever you have now until May-December (whenever they do refreshes, if at all*), then feel free to wait. Ivy Bridge is most certainly going in the new lineup of Macbooks and you've got at least until April to wait before anything.
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Feb 9, 2012 22:58
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e: double post
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Feb 9, 2012 22:58
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MrEnigma posted:I don't think the iMac will pass through like that, so I'm thinking. Mr. Onslaught posted:I guess the only downside to that is the fact that Thunderbolt enabled video card enclosures will probably be like 400 bucks or something when they start coming out. Chainclaw posted:Why is it so expensive? A 240 GB SSD is what, $300-$400 (and I wouldn't need more than 100 GB). I can't imagine an enclosure costing another $500 on top of that. FlashBangBob posted:Do you have any need to get the MBP before a certain point? If yes, you may need to get the laptop now, if no, and you can deal with whatever you have now until May-December (whenever they do refreshes, if at all*), then feel free to wait. Ivy Bridge is most certainly going in the new lineup of Macbooks and you've got at least until April to wait before anything.
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Feb 9, 2012 23:34
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japtor posted:Yeah I think #1 should work, it's #2 I'd be worried about, no clue if that port is a two way thing on the display. From what I've read the TBD is all two-way, guess I'll find out. If it works well, I can use the monitor as a usb hub for both computers, should be slick. Edit: Now if Apple would hurry up and ship this thing to me...Got my VESA adapters and LCD arms already...
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Feb 9, 2012 23:41
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kuskus posted:$979 (plus shipping & tax).  So the cost of the Thunderbolt Display, that enclosure, and a passable video card would cost more than just buying an iMac and never docking your laptop. japtor posted:I think MSI said they were shooting for $150 (cable included!) for their PCIe box. I wouldn't be surprised if they were depending on the later generation TB chips coming out later this year (starting Q2 I think). Well this is much more hopeful. I'm kinda drooling at the thought of traveling for work with an Ivy Bridge Air 11", and coming home to a waiting big rear end display/keyboard and mouse/maybe an external HD/wired internet/external video card all sitting on my desk waiting for a single Thunderbolt plug to hook in. I'm even looking around at accessories like a little kid circling stuff in a Toys R' Us magazine...ahhh I hope the refresh comes out as quickly as possible. Maybe I will even buy this stupid thing http://twelvesouth.com/products/BookArc_for_Air/
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Feb 9, 2012 23:51
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Okay so the SMC and PRAM reset made my MBP recognise the card as an official Apple device, but it hasn't fixed the problem of it turning off and refusing to turn back on, whilst leaving the menubar item looking like normal. Off to the fruit stand I go.
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Feb 10, 2012 00:22
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MrEnigma posted:From what I've read the TBD is all two-way, guess I'll find out. Mr. Onslaught posted:
 . Their other boxes were around $1000/slot last I checked while that thing has three. Their market is the pro sector and the pricing reflects that. The Blackmagic stuff (video in/out hardware) seems reasonable, about $100 more than their PCIe cards I think.
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Feb 10, 2012 01:17
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Bob Morales posted:White Macbook is finally dead. Real dead.
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Feb 10, 2012 01:56
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Would you recommend using a Time Capsule as both a back up AND I want to dump my whole hard drive on there through the initial set-up and then wipe my hard drive clean so I can start fresh with an empty hard drive (it is currently completely full). Or would a regular external hard drive be better suited for this? My only scare is that as the Time Capsule fills up, I understand that the oldest stuff gets deleted to make room for the new backups. I'm just scared I might lose stuff that I may need as it gets full. But at the same time, it would take a LONG time to fill up a 2TB TC. By that time I probably wouldn't care about the old stuff... Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Feb 10, 2012 02:23
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FlashBangBob posted:Do you have any need to get the MBP before a certain point? If yes, you may need to get the laptop now, if no, and you can deal with whatever you have now until May-December (whenever they do refreshes, if at all*), then feel free to wait. Ivy Bridge is most certainly going in the new lineup of Macbooks and you've got at least until April to wait before anything. My current work computer is on its last legs, but I can hold off for awhile and make due with it. I'm just curious how big the Ivy Bridge advancement will be to the current line up because I have to evaluate Excel files that get as big as a few gigs, so processor speed is important to me.
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Feb 10, 2012 02:49
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AzCoug posted:Would you recommend using a Time Capsule as both a back up AND I want to dump my whole hard drive on there through the initial set-up and then wipe my hard drive clean so I can start fresh with an empty hard drive (it is currently completely full). It can be difficult to separate the data from the time capsule and say a time machine backup. You can't partion a TC without some interesting steps. So I'd recommend an external hard drive. If you want you can buy an Airport Extreme and attach the drive to it. That way you can partition the disk however you want and then put data on one volume, and backups on another.
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Feb 10, 2012 05:31
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OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:My current work computer is on its last legs, but I can hold off for awhile and make due with it. I'm just curious how big the Ivy Bridge advancement will be to the current line up because I have to evaluate Excel files that get as big as a few gigs, so processor speed is important to me.
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Also the thunderbolt 240GB is 2 Intel 120GB SSD in Raid-0 so that's a good $400-500 of cost there. Anywho, all updated reset everything and the static was gone on my external displays until today. I think it has something to do with connecting/disconnecting displays as I remove one of mine frequently to play on my gaming computer. God damnit Apple fix your display drivers.
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