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Falken posted:It'd be just like GT4/5. Over 1000 cars! (500+ are different trim levels. Would you like the Ford Escort MKIV in Popular, Popular Plus, Bonus, L, LX, GL, Ghia, Sport, Cabriolet, XR3i, or the RS Turbo model? Actually I would really like this, you could select your base model then whichever edition of it you wanted. It'd also mean you don't get cars limited to "super deluxe racing edition" and instead could race the poverty-spec models.
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In all fairness an Escort LX and an Escort RS turbo are different cars.
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I ordered the game a few days ago and I’m trying to be preemptive - This may sound like a dumb question, but what would you folks come up with as a list of etiquette for the game? It’s the lack of etiquette that can make public matches so terrible in any multiplayer game. However, some people will happily follow and appreciate a rule set if you give them one. Many, like myself learn bad habits because we spend a lot of time in public matches. Now I’m not talking about eating, talking to someone in your living room/on the phone or blasting music over your mike, but rules of the road. I know that it’s easy to just say “don’t act like an rear end in a top hat!” and leave it at that, but I’m hoping for something a bit more constructive. That and hopefully I can expand my rather small friends list (GT same as SA name) and not have to play many pubbies. To start things off: -Do not actively block someone from passing.
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Feb 24, 2012 18:47
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I think the only rules that anyone truly cares about is not ramming other racers, and when you spin out, avoid entering the racing line when there's traffic in the area. And if contact does happen, apologize. Everything else is usually fair game. I mean yeah, blocking is "lame", but if someone really is that much faster, they'll eventually make the pass no matter how strongly the defender is trying to prevent it. Trying to regulate it is just going to end up with a bunch of rules arguments mid-race.
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Feb 24, 2012 18:54
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Usually when we do goon races it's common to say "hey [whoever] I'm coming up on your right side" or whatever, as your situational awareness in a video game will never be like on an actual race track
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Feb 24, 2012 18:59
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Those are pretty much what I'm looking for. Yeah, I certainly don't want rule lawyering or even hard rules - just the gentlemen's agreement/its polite to [blank]. Just read some of the Madden threads if you want to see some bickering. I’m not going to impress anyone with my driving so I might as well not stand out for bad manners. Thanks!
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Feb 24, 2012 19:14
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If you're gonna pass somebody, let them know which side. Don't block anybody that's clearly able to pass you. Don't rear end anybody intentionally. Don't be a whiny bitch when somebody does rear end you in the first turn of the race because they accidentally braked too hard and locked them up and slid into you, putting you into the sand or a wall and basically screwing your chances of winning the race. This will happen often. Don't bump people in straightaways. For the love of gently caress use your right stick to look around, if only briefly. This is in addition to calling out your position to other racers. Don't bother playing with pubbies 95% of them are morons who can't drive and should be euthanized. Common sense! 
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Feb 24, 2012 19:32
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On some real race series blocking is cool but you're not supposed to change your line more than once per section of the track, so moving into someone's line in a competitive race is ok, but if they're way faster you can't swerve all over the track while they keep trying to get around you (which online is only going to cause a crash for everyone involved). I think that seems like a reasonable guideline for not being an rear end in a top hat in online races while being competitive. That said, I don't watch racing very often but there are a lot of youtubes that make it pretty clear that a lot of professional race drivers behave at least as poorly as the average Forza pub racer, the only thing keeping them from dive bombing each other in the corners is probably concern for their own safety. I'm really terrible at passing in Forza without at least nudging the other guy a bit but unless it's blatantly terrible goons don't tend to care. mattdizzleZ28 posted:I cannot stand this poo poo. I guess i can understand why the game isnt full of V6 mustangs, but everyone driving some rare model they only made a few of is a little off-putting. I'd love trim options in F5. Fox body mustang with the turbocoupe engine for instance. This is one of the things that made me wish you could mod console games. There's probably enough data in the game already that it wouldn't be too difficult to accurately mod in a lot of alternate trims and model years that most people don't care about. Fortuitous Bumble fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:.
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projecthalaxy posted:YF19Pilot, I accepted your friend request. Also, what car is the Boxbot paint job on and is it for sale, please. First point(s); haven't been on my XBox yet today, but I'll be sending out some cars this afternoon when I stop being lazy (read: job searching - it's hilarious that for a minimum wage job you have to apply online and fill out a 100 question personality quiz). As for Boxbot, I have the design on the 2003 Mitsu Eclipse, but I have the decals seperate. Just search for 'boxbot' 'Gunnerkrigg' or 'gtcc' (seriously, it's the only result for the first two search terms). We're always going to have our favorites, as much as I'd love a Volvo 740 GL, a GLE or Turbo would make much better sense, and even the GLE is questionable (it's the more powerful of the non-turbo'd 740 engines, but the 740 Turbo would be more satisfying for the community at large). Regarding tires: in a game like Forza, it's almost a let down that I can't do VIP Style on my Toyota. Also: needs more Chevy 350 in RX-7s. Dukket posted:manners. Mostly, if you know the rules of racing, you should be fine. Blocking is okay, but don't do it if he isn't square in your mirror. Also, don't block the leader if he's lapping you. That's a big dick move and would get you black flagged in real life. When in doubt, check up and let the other guy take the corner. At worst, you're behind him and can try to catch him again. At best, he's going in too hot and will spin out anyways, so being a little slow/off-line going in keeps you from getting taken out. Otherwise, keep it clean, and don't run people off the road. Also, brake earlier than usual if you're behind someone in a corner - not a rule but will keep you out of other people's bumpers. If you race with the brake line on, use it as a guide or a cue - don't ever follow it if you're going two wide into anything. xzzy posted:Hell, there's racers who made entire careers going to the "win or crash trying" school of racing.. and were applauded for it. Arton Senna. Stop looking at me like that.
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Dukket posted:Those are pretty much what I'm looking for. Yeah, I certainly don't want rule lawyering or even hard rules - just the gentlemen's agreement/its polite to [blank]. Just read some of the Madden threads if you want to see some bickering. Make sure to turn your "Distance from" meter on in the HUD - it'll let you know if there's someone 3 feet to your left/right, just outside of the camera/mirror view. Don't cut in front of cars 0.3 seconds after you pass them, this isn't NFS and 99% of complaints about the AI are due to players who think that the AI should just yield to them once their front license plate is in front of the AI car's front license plate. If you can learn to not cut the AI off, you'll be just fine when you race people online. If someone is behind you trying to pass, there's a reason they're on your rear end - they are faster. Trying to block is just going to aggravate faster drivers, who will pass you anyway but after being annoyed by you will put you into the wall instead of just cleanly going by. (because your wild attempts at defense have you all over the track and all they want is one line, any line, to go around.) If you disagree that they are faster on principle, let them by and then catch and pass them yourself.
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Feb 24, 2012 19:49
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Or just tailgate the poo poo out of them. It takes a drat fine racer to not blow a corner when someone is inches off their rear bumper. Seriously my favorite thing to do in the game, just chill out in back and watch a gut slowly unravel.
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YF19pilot posted:Mostly, if you know the rules of racing, you should be fine. Blocking is okay, but don't do it if he isn't square in your mirror. Yeah, I think learning to properly race will make a huge difference for me. Much of it can be picked up through trial and error and I've seen a few websites that give pointers. I played Forza 3 a bit over the summer and the brake line was helpful, but following it as a rule is definitely a bad idea. EDIT: "gut"? Dukket fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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Feb 24, 2012 20:02
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As a terrible racer I'm pretty good at being lapped but other than than I still sometimes shunt people without meaning to, and usually once every couple of races I'll cook it going into a corner and mash someone off the road. For whatever it's worth, I try to play tow truck when I see someone on their roof or so smashed up they can't get up a hill, which I like to think makes up for it somewhat. What I usually try and tell myself is that gaining a spot isn't worth loving up at least two people's races, which is generally what happens when you push it too hard. That said, almost every pubbie race I get hosed into the dirt because motherfuckers just cannot deal with getting passed.
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Dukket posted:EDIT: iPod typo, I meant "guy".
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Thanks for the etiquette chat. I've been too  to try any goon racing because I'm awful but it looks like you guys are pretty cool kats on the track. Edit: Jesus Christ I love this car.  
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Thanks for the etiquette chat. I've been too I was playing some FPS a couple years ago and someone said (politely) said “you shouldn’t do [whatever], it’s considered rude for these reasons” It made sense once he said it, but honestly it hadn’t occurred to me. My (lack of) skillz means no one is banging down my door to join up. So, I decided that I’d ask questions, learn the rules, do my best to improve and have fun. I can handle not being among the best as long as I’ve got that. If the people are iffy then I mute them and carry on, if I’m not having fun I’ll play something else.
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I hate racing against pubs online because its always terrible, but I usually throw out any sort of manners drive like a giant dick because they're that bad. A guy locked up his brakes in front of me and I tapped him on the butt and he spun, so he launched into a tirade about how his car is superior no matter what. So I made sure to get in front of him and drive slow enough to block him in turns and fast enough to not let him pass me. There's so much vitriol in pubbie racing if any sort of contact occurs. Which is why I love racing with goons, they're much more considerate and we talk about cool stuff instead of me being called a giant pedophile that watches kids fart on dogs.
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Totally agree with xzzy - it takes a supremely composed driver to not botch something up when there's a huge grille in their rear view mirror for 5 miles straight. See: Jensen Button passing Sebastian Vettel at last year's Canadian Gran Prix. Much better to force your rival to overcook a turn through nerves than to just ram him aside because you have more HP on the straights. And one other thing I feel is good etiquette (at least when racing with goons/friends/people who aren't spastic pub scum): If you screw someone else's corner up, cede the position back. I always try to do that if I feel like I was at fault for a collision, there's no honor in GranTurismoing someone like they're your car's brakes - and if you're truly faster, you will pass them again shortly. Tight racing is more fun racing, and everyone learns more when they can watch other lines and practice car control (by not ramming the slower cars, if you're driving in a pack with friends who aren't as good.)
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YF19pilot posted:Arton Senna. Stop looking at me like that.
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Been playing for a week. I'm a pretty poo poo driver so far, so I'm not sure if I'll ever race with goons.
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Pubbie racing for me ends up with me finishing 10th/last place usually, a combinations of pubbies being better/more agressive drivers than I am, plus they often have the "best" car for the track. I've noticed something quite common in pubbie racing, almost everytime the guy who wins is driving something modern in black with blacked out windows and black black black with forza aero front and back. Sometimes fantastic things happen, such as the guy who was at the front of a 4-5 car pack drifting constantly all across the road untill one guy got sick of it. In the middle of a (quite good) drift, he just nudged the guys back end with the gentlest touch I've seen and the guy span off to infinity. Good pubbie raching technique is for the first 2-3 corners brake early and stay in complete control so when everyone else slams into each other you can weave through the debris and find yourself in a good position. Happens most of the time. I'm kinda torn when I race online, because bonnet-cam doesnt give me a very good feel of who is around me (yes i use the right stick) but without bonnet cam I have this massive hood scoop blocking the entire right hand side of vision. But... to remove the hood? I just can't bring myself to do it. Oh yeah and theres almost always the token "taking my 1800's horse and buggy for a gentlemanly stroll" in some classic at the back of the pack. He will always give you room and on no circumstances tolerate a risk of scratching his paint.
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VERTiG0 posted:Don't block anybody that's clearly able to pass you. Ehhh, a little side note on this one. Im sure people who race with me have seen me do plenty of "blocking", you just need to know how to do it right. Swerving around on a straight is one thing, but if you place your car on the fast line and force them to take a slower line or back off, its the responsibility of the passing car to make a clean pass. (if someone has only halfway passed me and im exiting a corner, they either back off or are ending up with two tires on the grass, no car contact needed) I've kept faster AUGR goons behind me for 20 minutes without anything that would get me in trouble in a real racing series. Its a skill in and of itself. Dick racing or legitimate? If you've raced with me i welcome criticism. (my big AUGR rivals tend to be Vertigo and PrettyPanda, so these two know exactly what i'm talking about) Flesh Croissant fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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mattdizzleZ28 posted:I cannot stand this poo poo. I guess i can understand why the game isnt full of V6 mustangs, but everyone driving some rare model they only made a few of is a little off-putting. I'd love trim options in F5. Fox body mustang with the turbocoupe engine for instance. This is what I want. The body usually stays the same throughout the trim levels except for maybe a new bumper or some piece on a fender. How hard would it be to just put the body in the game and then have optional trim levels that changes the badges and maybe some of the body style, The most major changes are things we wouldn't even see like brakes, engine and suspension. M3s are nice, but I'd like to see a regular 3 series. Or the V6 Mustang with the ecoboost. I'm tired of seeing the highest trim available.
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Cojawfee posted:This is what I want. The body usually stays the same throughout the trim levels except for maybe a new bumper or some piece on a fender. How hard would it be to just put the body in the game and then have optional trim levels that changes the badges and maybe some of the body style, The most major changes are things we wouldn't even see like brakes, engine and suspension. What? There are plenty of lovely cars in this game.  ('73 Pinto with turbo Duratec and actually quite fun in C class)  Edit: I'm being horribly sarcastic and like posting pictures. :P Also, Captain Hair posted:Oh yeah and theres almost always the token "taking my 1800's horse and buggy for a gentlemanly stroll" in some classic at the back of the pack. He will always give you room and on no circumstances tolerate a risk of scratching his paint. 
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mattdizzleZ28 posted:Ehhh, a little side note on this one. I love chasing your car down and attempting to pass (rare, but it happens) but 2 laps of the 'Ring with ~200 PI cars tests my patience, hahah 
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mattdizzleZ28 posted:Ehhh, a little side note on this one. Totally legit, because you're not creating a risk to yourself or the passer. He can always back off. In this situation it's great to know the track, know when to buckle in and just follow the leader; and where to pass - and vice versa. I love A-B-C racing because I've held off S-class cars with a B & C car with this tactic. I've also been on the opposite side of this, which is fine until the pubbie behind me gets impatient, and just wrecks all three of us (yes, this has happened). Anyways, will post some more car pictures in a moment, just finished up 4 designs. Edit, so I don't get in trouble for double posting: Okay, so here are some new designs for you, 46 of 82...  What? No! Stop! You're terrible boxbot! Why can't you be more like robox? 47 of 82  What is that you have? 48 of 82 "Marlboro"  Okay, that's much better, but... 49 of 82 "Marlboro"  Alright, I'm sorry I yelled at you, boxbot. PSBonnett, you're up to take a pick. CovfefeCatCafe fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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I had started my own car club thinking more of my friends would get the game, but that didn't pan out, so I just sent a request to AUGR as w0lrah. I have a few of you guys on my friends list to compete with on rivals and could always use more.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:('73 Pinto with turbo Duratec and actually quite fun in C class)
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Dr. Faustus posted:Pinto is fun in *any* class. You're also 100% right.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:The downside with that car/motor combo is that it's really loud. Like tin can loud. "Downside" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
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xzzy posted:"Downside" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. Both.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Heh. It's mostly the lovely speakers on my LCD. It's the perfect pitch to rattle the poo poo out of them. I actually love the sound. The kid was trying to do homework and he turned around "Is that the car or the TV?" Get a soundbar and stop using your TV speakers for anything! They can be had cheap and will be quite a bit better than the pieces of poo poo built-into the TV.
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YF19pilot posted:Got my Aeroflot Delta and my Boxbot Eclipse, you are the man. Is there a car I can gift you by way of saying thanks?
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YF19pilot posted:Okay, that's much better, but... Amazing! I'll take this one please, with #84 on right? Thanks again!
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mattdizzleZ28 posted:Ehhh, a little side note on this one. Last night during the two laps on The Ring is a perfect example of this. You blocked me on the last corner of the first lap. Was it a bit annoying? Yes. But it was a perfectly acceptable racing move and I would have done it if I was in the lead.
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There's been a few new people in the past page or two, so I just wanted to let you guys know that we'd love it if you raced online with us, even if you're not that fast. Sure, we've got some people who are really good at this game, but there are plenty of people who aren't (me included). One way to get a lot better fast is to race with people who are faster than you. I've gotten a lot of pointers during races that have decreased my lap times. Of course, the more time you play, the better you should get. Also, turn off those driving assists!
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These are amazing, and I would happily buy either/both if you're willing...
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Yeah, seriously, anyone who's using it, turn off the driving line. You'll learn the tracks much better by forcing yourself to pay attention to the actual braking markers and corners. The driving line will help and extremely new racer, but once you have the basics down, you're only hurting yourself by using it. It'll teach you to look at the road right in front of your car rather than looking down the track at what's coming up. It also tells you to slow down sometimes when you don't need to. edit: And yeah, definitely jump in and race with goons, even if you're bad. People will give you pointers, and as long as you aren't a jackass, they'll be forgiving. Day Man fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Feb 25, 2012 |
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So, with the "2013" Dodge Dart coming "Q2 2012", what do you think are the chances we might see it as DLC? Maybe not this month but April?TravBot posted:These are amazing, and I would happily buy either/both if you're willing... I'll have to give it some thought, as I wasn't planning on selling anything yet. But feel free to bribe me in the meanwhile.
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