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Bobulus posted:Oh, hey, I've been to that one. The day I went, they had a half-dozen machine out of order, but I played a bunch of old games that weren't at my childhoood arcade. Anyone who has only played Space Invaders in emulation has to track down a cabinet, but it is god-drat beautiful in person. I just found on that my friends are there right now! That's what I get for staying home to veg out instead of hanging out for burrito Sunday.
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NihilCredo posted:There's also the old spell sequence: I can't help but envision that as looking like the person went through a transporter malfunction in Star Trek...
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Effingham posted:I can't help but envision that as looking like the person went through a transporter malfunction in Star Trek... "What we got back... didn't live long... fortunately."
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Soonmot posted:The second one. The first one isn't bad, but the second one is great. There's an arcade about half an hour from me with a $20 play all day policy and I spent most of my time on that D&D game. Man, Shadows over Mystara is probably the only arcade game where $20 for all day is not really worth it. When it was really popular at my arcade I remember everyone being able to finish it (in a team of two) with a single credit. You had to wait one a half hour to play it if you were next in line. The arcade operator didn't like it that much. Anyways, I still can 1-credit it with both the fighter and the mage (the mage is the easiest of course) but I have never been able to do it with the stupid thief. The best player at my arcade used to beat the crap out of everything with the Dwarf, those dragons went down in seconds to that perfectly spaced rising attack that I could never master. Dman, I need to play that game again.
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New strip! poo poo just got reaaaal. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html
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Elan might have complained about the raven's fairly clunky and un-subtle explanation of the twist, I suspect. That said, I got a chuckle at the joke in the title. Foresight is a high-level Divination spell that grants you "instantaneous warnings of impending danger or harm to the subject of the spell", such as a dungeon trap.
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...if Tarquin's wife had born him a child, Elan would be dead right now. Holy poo poo. Edit: Or probably just a level lower. Raise Dead, DnD, gaming comic. I need sleep.
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I see some potential for a Loss edit here. But seriously though, V shows some real despair in those panels. It's even more gut-wrenching to see when the elf normally doesn't show other emotions than contempt.
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No xs on V's eyes yet. What are the odds V refuses to come back if dead to avoid being a tool of the infernal?DrakePegasus posted:...if Tarquin's wife had born him a child, Elan would be dead right now. Holy poo poo. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Mar 5, 2012 |
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^^^^^^  scooped!DrakePegasus posted:...if Tarquin's wife had born him a child, Elan would be dead right now. Holy poo poo. Are we sure of that? Where's the borderline? Draketooth child : descended from black dragon (†); Penelope : directly related to black dragon heir (†); Penelope's hypothetical child : directly related to person directly related to... (†?); Tarquin : (directly related to person)^3 Elan : (directly related to person)^4 I'm not sure the spell goes this far, or there would have been a massive uproar on the continent if being four degrees from dragon descent killed you, seeing how much the Draketeeth slept around? Penelope's *new baby* might possibly die as half-brother of a dragon heir, but Tarquin shares no blood with any Draketooth.
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Toussaint Louverture posted:No xs on V's eyes yet. What are the odds V refuses to come back if dead to avoid being a tool of the infernal? The trapdoor clearly opens in the penultimate panel. V's getting trapped in a labyrinth of some sort, not killed.
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Is Belkar's line about holding it in a reference to what I think it is?
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Wow, so Familicide's effect was truly "follow each and every possible genealogic tree connection until you hit dead people" (notice the 'down to the last cousin' part). It's been just a few weeks since then, but I wonder if at some point the Western Continent will start seeing a folk tale spread about "The Day when a Lot of Random People Died in Mysterious Circumstances".
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Mar 5, 2012 13:49
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Yeah, that's right, V. How do you like the taste of ultimate arcane power now?
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V now should be arguing with the DM that he got gypped on xp for those kills.
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greatn posted:V now should be arguing with the DM that he got gypped on xp for those kills. Haerta earned the XP, obviously.
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Mar 5, 2012 14:21
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V has no right to complain about XP.
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I hope V survives all this so he can become an archetypically wise old wizard frustrated by his complete inability to stop future generations of mages from being as loving retarded as he used to be.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I hope V survives all this so he can become an archetypically wise old wizard frustrated by his complete inability to stop future generations of mages from being as loving retarded as he used to be. I think V is capable of regret, but not humility.
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prefect posted:I think V is capable of regret, but not humility.
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I hope that Suvie is able to regain the love and trust of Kyrie and their kids.
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At risk of reigniting the alignment debates again, Vaarsuvius implies their fate will be hell now, for the evil act they've committed, but the D&D afterlife doesn't work so much on sin or guilt so much as active alignment. Unintended consequences and blinding hubris don't really represent evil, just error.
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It's kind of hard to say that killing a whole poo poo load of people related to a dragon was an 'unintended consequence' of casting a spell that specifically killed the poo poo out of anyone related to the target. It wasn't as if V just picked up a scroll and cast the spell without understanding it. He knew what the spell was and what it would do. gently caress, he raised the dragon back from the dead specifically to taunt it with what he was going to do and how thoroughly he was going to kill all it's family. Even at the time it was a shocking thing to do.
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You gotta say this though, whatever afterlife it ended up in, I bet that dragon learned its lesson.
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Ashcans posted:It's kind of hard to say that killing a whole poo poo load of people related to a dragon was an 'unintended consequence' of casting a spell that specifically killed the poo poo out of anyone related to the target. It wasn't as if V just picked up a scroll and cast the spell without understanding it. He knew what the spell was and what it would do. gently caress, he raised the dragon back from the dead specifically to taunt it with what he was going to do and how thoroughly he was going to kill all it's family. Even at the time it was a shocking thing to do. Of course, even if that defence were fully accepted I doubt it would help him that much. If Roy almost ended up in the True Neutral afterlife for that one single time he declined to rescue Elan, I can't see such reckless disregard for potential innocent victims earning V anything better than a nice officer rank in the Blood War.
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In the comic, we've also directly seen one of the actual heavenly host state what a dramatic turn towards evil V has made. Plus it just wouldn't make for a very good reaction here if V could just say "well that was a bit of an oopsie, but by the alignment rules I should be in the clear, right where were we with this gate business."
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Basically V's player should be getting some sweet roleplaying XP right about now.
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Calaveron posted:Basically V's player should be getting some sweet roleplaying XP right about now. If I were the DM, I wouldn't allow any roleplaying XP on the grounds that the painful memories he's experiencing are too high level.
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Calaveron posted:Basically V's player should be getting some sweet roleplaying XP right about now. But is probably going out of town next weekend. Either that or he's getting a sweet solo adventure.
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Or he's gonna be trapped in a pit trap. Or dead.
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Well he's just down one(or two) flight of stairs, shouldn't be to hard to find.
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greatn posted:Well he's just down one(or two) flight of stairs, shouldn't be to hard to find. So you're saying the party needs to go down a level?
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Der Shovel posted:So you're saying the party needs to go down a level? Why would they go down a level, they just went up a level.
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Hm. I'm pretty sure the spell as it's now described would have scoured the planet clean of, at the very least, all human life. I mean, say Tarquin's one wife had given him a child. Not only would the child have died, but Tarquin himself would have died - along with all his children, and all the wives he had children with. And then any and all of his siblings, and their children. And their spouses. And the siblings of their spouses...so on and so forth, and this calculation apparently applies to every one of the multitude of people we know were affected by the spell. It doesn't appear that it would stop anywhere, save perhaps for some totally isolated community which never interbred with outsiders. If it couldn't go up a family tree - or, perhaps, if it could only go up once, to the 'top' of the black dragon tree, and then down forever after - then the damage would be limited in scope. But if it can freely track down to children and back up to spouses, then we're looking at a total cleansing. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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Affi posted:Why would they go down a level, they just went up a level. That's the best skit.
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Strudel Man posted:Hm. I'm pretty sure the spell as it's now described would have scoured the planet clean of, at the very least, all human life. What, no, that's dumb. There are three tiers of effect. First tier is the dragon--the root of the spell. She lives. Second tier is anyone who is a blood relative of the dragon and alive--ancestors, descendants, siblings, cousins. They all die. This is the, "Every living creature that directly shares your bloodline is dead." Third tier is anyone who is a blood relative of any member of the second tier--again, ancestors, descendents, siblings, cousins. They all die. This is the, "Every living creature that is directly related to one of THOSE creatues is also dead." Tarquin's wife died because she was a mother to someone in the second tier (a random Draketooth). If she had another child, it would have been a brother or sister to a Draketooth, and would also die. But even then Tarquin would not be killed, because he wouldn't be a blood father to a Draketooth, just mommy's new friend. Mystic Mongol fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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Alternatively, it didn't scour the planet of life because even Epic magic has some limits.
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Mystic Mongol posted:But even then Tarquin would not be killed, because he wouldn't be a blood father to a Draketooth, just mommy's new friend.
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Mystic Mongol posted:What, no, that's dumb. Presumably you think it's restricted to first cousins, which is not demonstrated in the text. But the images also do not support this - particularly, look at the third panel in the second, uh, grouping. It appears to be an entire family there being killed, including an older woman and an older man. Unless all but one of those are siblings to a draketooth (and the one who isn't is the parent), it doesn't stop where you're suggesting. The text even explicitly says that it kills the siblings and cousins of anyone who bore a child with a Draketooth - such people are not ancestors, descendents, siblings, or first cousins to anyone in what you call the second tier. They are 'cousins' to people in the second tier only in the broader sense that they share at least one common ancestor, and again, this is the 'wipe out all life' condition. edit: Hell, by your analysis here, the draketooth family wouldn't even be in the second tier. Unless the black dragon on which V cast the spell was actually the one to found the draketooth line...(it wasn't, was it?) Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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