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Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Sarcasm or is Ferrari that particular?

Ferrari is really protective of their brand, especially when it comes to their cars shown as being used for something illegal. NFS3 wouldn't let you use Ferraris in Hot Pursuit mode, and that's why they weren't in the HP remake at all.

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Maker Of Shoes posted:

Sarcasm or is Ferrari that particular?

Scirocco Griffon beat me to it, but yes Ferrari is that particular. They are very protective of their brand.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Ferrari's were in the first Test Drive Unlimited, though I admit I can't remember if cops showed up or not when you were driving one.

Symphoric
Apr 20, 2005


Liku posted:

And he's right.

Not really. The 911, 914, 928, 944, Cayman/Boxter, and Carrera GT are all pretty different from each other. There's probably one or two more I can't think of right now too.

I don't really care for the whole DLC scheme, but I'll pay $20 for Porsches happily.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer

Scirocco Griffon posted:

Ferrari is really protective of their brand, especially when it comes to their cars shown as being used for something illegal. NFS3 wouldn't let you use Ferraris in Hot Pursuit mode, and that's why they weren't in the HP remake at all.

This is pretty hilarious.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Symphoric posted:

Not really. The 911, 914, 928, 944, Cayman/Boxter, and Carrera GT are all pretty different from each other. There's probably one or two more I can't think of right now too.

I don't really care for the whole DLC scheme, but I'll pay $20 for Porsches happily.

This post is 100% better if you read it in Hammond's voice.

Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

Maker Of Shoes posted:

This post is 100% better if you read it in Hammond's voice.

You also have to follow it up with a loud "Oh, RUBBISH" in Clarkson's voice for the full effect.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
If Forza Horizon turns out to be a single/multiplayer game instead of a persistent world, always online MMO, and if it has Forza 4's level of customization and simulation physics, it's going to be my dream racing game.

I will never stop cruising on highways and drifting around corners in crowded city intersections with a garage full of gaudy-as-possible supercars.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

GreatGreen posted:

I will never stop cruising on highways and drifting around corners in crowded city intersections with a garage full of gaudy-as-possible supercars.

All my Ferrari's are white with neon green wheels. :allears:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I appear to be in the minority in thinking that an "open world racing game" is a terrible idea and is going to flop big time.

It's just going to end up being nothing but "find highway, speed up to 200 mph, hit your friend head on, laugh for five minutes, realize you're bored, quit and go find a new game."


Hope Turn 10 is farming development to someone else, because I'd much rather they focus their attention on something that has some longevity to it.. perhaps start gearing up to be a launch title for the next Microsoft console.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Someone else is doing this game yes. Turn-10 is working on Forza 5, it'll be a launch title for the next Xbox console.

Captain Hair
Dec 31, 2007

Of course, that can backfire... some men like their bitches crazy.
Goddamn yes, I don't care house much it is, if I can race a 944 again I'm getting that pack.

I've been happy with RUF, mind you. I never used to race a high-end porsches but now I quite often find myself in a neon green S-class deathtrap!

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!
I was telling my Forza cohort the Horizon news and this happened.

quote:

:v: - It could be insanely good or insanely bad. There will be no middle ground. We both know where it will fall.
:) - Insanely good - open the box and there's an SCCA license inside. Insanely bad - open the box and there's a game disc

Oh God he's right. :lol::lol::lol:

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

Cojawfee posted:

An open world Forza could be alright if they just take Forza and make it open world. They might have to downgrade the car models to support a giant world, but just don't touch anything else. Chances are it will be dumbed down and will just be DRIVE FERASERGHINIS AROUND THIS ISLAND and there will be no tuning or anything useful.

I really really hope that there's actual technology transfer from Turn10 to whatever studio does this. Because it could just be MS trying to create an umbrella brand like EA did with Need for Speed, in which case Forza Horizon might have nothing to do with Forza as we know it. The trailer certainly doesn't seem too promising.

Edit:

xzzy posted:

I appear to be in the minority in thinking that an "open world racing game" is a terrible idea and is going to flop big time.

It's just going to end up being nothing but "find highway, speed up to 200 mph, hit your friend head on, laugh for five minutes, realize you're bored, quit and go find a new game."

It could be awesome if done right, even with how lovely TDU2 was I spent a good 30+ hours just cruising. Obviously it's not too interesting if you "just" want to race.

GhostDog fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 5, 2012

djfooboo
Oct 16, 2004




I figured out 9 of the Porches already :colbert:

Cayenne
Cayenne S
Cayenne S Transsyberia
Cayenne GTS
Cayenne GTS Porsche Design Edition 3
Cayenne Turbo
Cayenne Turbo S
Cayenne Diesel
Cayenne S Hybrid

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Cayenne Dub Edition

With a wide body kit and the first car in Forza to come with spinners spinnaz

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

WHOA WHOA WHOA, did anyone else just notice the level 999 cap announcement? The Title 3 update is going to increase the cap to level 999. Holy poo poo. When does that update come out?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I've only driven a RUF once in Forza 4, the RT12 (completely stock, at that). Holy poo poo, how does something with that much power have NO BRAKES WHATSOEVER?

Anyway, what I meant - regardless of you heathens agreeing with Clarkson that there's really only like three Porsches ever - was how many P-cars have actually been in Forza 1-3. Looks like about 33 total were in FM3 after all DLCs, but a lot of them were repaints of the various Cup cars.

I do really hope we get a 917 and a 356. We've already had just about every era of 911 (except maybe the malaise-era 911SC but we could probably do without that), the 944, the 914/6, and all of the modern cars. Plus that glorious 550.

For completion's sake I would also not hate a 908, 924, or 928 either.

E: Level 999? What's that going to do for everyone already at L150? Are they going to get autobumped and a metric fuckload of credits, or will it just be for epeen only?

Not that I'm anywhere near that :v:

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



I said come in! posted:

WHOA WHOA WHOA, did anyone else just notice the level 999 cap announcement? The Title 3 update is going to increase the cap to level 999. Holy poo poo. When does that update come out?

Mother of God what is going on with Forza and why is it all getting so crazy all of a sudden.

Forza Horizon announcement, Porsche pack and a level 999 cap. Not to mention we still have one more month of DLC to come as well.

Oh Forza 4, you really are the best Forza ever.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



I said come in! posted:

WHOA WHOA WHOA, did anyone else just notice the level 999 cap announcement? The Title 3 update is going to increase the cap to level 999. Holy poo poo. When does that update come out?

What the gently caress?

Wait, so will the exp we already have go towards this? Will we get the money rewards we would have gotten as well? Why such a gigantic level cap, anyway? I mean I'm not complaining, but holy gently caress that's insane.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Cannot Find Server posted:

What the gently caress?

Wait, so will the exp we already have go towards this? Will we get the money rewards we would have gotten as well? Why such a gigantic level cap, anyway? I mean I'm not complaining, but holy gently caress that's insane.

I've been wondering this stuff too. T10 hasn't said. I hope it's retroactive because I have almost all of the event list finished.

Jarf
Jun 25, 2006

PLATINUM



Don't know if this has been quoted yet but "You can expect such Porsches as the 911, the 962, the James Dean 550A and the 911 Classic Sport, notes Greenawalt."

source

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Jarf posted:

Don't know if this has been quoted yet but "You can expect such Porsches as the 911, the 962, the James Dean 550A and the 911 Classic Sport, notes Greenawalt."

source

Here is the Title Update info too; http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-11023-Forza-4-Becoming-%E2%80%9CVirtually-Uncapped%E2%80%9D-With-Title-Update-3.html

Update 3 also fixes the multiplayer issues. :woop:

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


May will be a good month. :D

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Oh gently caress, and that update comes out tomorrow too?

Hell yeah, gently caress Mass Effect 3, I'ma keep playing this instead. Fixing the cars with broken PI, making multiplayer lobbies not crash all the drat time, things are looking awesome :getin:

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I just hope Forza Horizon has a walkaround virtual garage that can link to F4. I'd probably pay $60 for that.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Cannot Find Server posted:

Why such a gigantic level cap, anyway?

So people have something to continually grinds towards, keeps people (with OCD) playing. Gears did something like that recently adding in "prestige" levels.

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
Im so friggin excited for the level 999 stuff, I've been stuck at 150 for so long that buying the remaining cars has become a grind. Also thank gently caress for multiplayer updates after the disaster trying to race last night turned out to be.

Asnorban
Jun 13, 2003

Professor Gavelsmoke


I wish one of these updates would be to add Rivals mode to each track / class combo. Even it is is only one variant of each track it would be nice to be able to race any car on any track in Rivals mode.

Between the Season Pass and Porsche DLC I am hoping they just announce a complete set so I could sell off my disc and buy the complete set cheaper than it would be to buy the DLC alone.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Liku posted:

So people have something to continually grinds towards, keeps people (with OCD) playing. Gears did something like that recently adding in "prestige" levels.

They did enough by adding all those badges. I am still working on getting level 25 on all manufacturers so that I can get all the badges. That alone will probably take me past 999.

I also hate myself :negative:

Asnorban posted:

I wish one of these updates would be to add Rivals mode to each track / class combo. Even it is is only one variant of each track it would be nice to be able to race any car on any track in Rivals mode.

I don't see why they don't just add bounties to the leaderboards. It makes sense to me, anyway.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I wish Affinity grinding did not take so long, there are over 4000 affinity levels in all.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I hope Forza Horizon adds all sorts of retarded customization, like Need for Speed Underground or whatever, but that it accurately models the affect those retarded bondo body-kits and budget slammed suspensions have on the vehicles performance. I want someone to spend a hundred thousand credits making their Honda Civic into a JDM-tite clowncar rolling on 400 pounds of chrome alloy just so I can drive circles around it in my 50hp stock Fiat Punto.

And because I want to build a bosozoku Raptor and drive down the highway median at 110mph.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



I said come in! posted:

I wish Affinity grinding did not take so long, there are over 4000 affinity levels in all.

Yeah, it is a bit ridiculous. Especially how it takes less EXP to go from level 0 to 25 than it does to go from level 25 to 50. Those levels from 20-25 are particularly insane with their requirements.

burtonos
Aug 17, 2004

...and the angel did say, "go forth, and lay waste to all who oppose you"

I said come in! posted:

Update 3 also fixes the multiplayer issues. :woop:

I want to believe.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
I went through the past Forza car lists and found all the Porsches, then cut out the duplicates. If I didn't gently caress something up, these are the 40 Porsches that have been seen in the Forza series so far:

code:
1956	550 A Spyder
1970	914/6
1973	911 Carrera RS
1982	911 Turbo 3.3
1987	959
1987	#17 Racing Porsche AG 962c
1987	911 Turbo 3.3
1989	944 Turbo
1995	911 GT2
1998	#26 Porsche AG 911 GT1-98
1998    911 GT1 Evo "Street Version" (996)*
2000	#23 Alex Job Racing 911GT3-RS 
2002	#57 Larbre McDonalds 996 GT3 Cup
2003	#22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2003	Boxster S
2003	Carrera GT
2004	#23 Alex Job Racing 911 GT3-RSR
2004	911 GT3 (996)
2005	#3 Lechner Racing School Team 1 911 GT3 Cup
2005	#31 Peterson-White Lightning 911 GT3-RSR
2005	#44 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
2005	#5 XBOX 360 911 GT3-RSR
2005	#55 Applied Materials 911 GT3 Cup
2005	#66 AXA Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2006	#81 Synergy Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2006	#82 Red Bull 911 GT3 Cup
2006	Cayman S
2007	#80 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
2007	911 GT3 (997)
2007    911 GT3 RS*
2007	911 Turbo (997)
2008	#16 Dyson Racing RS Spyder Evo
2008	#2 Gruppe Orange Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2008	#45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
2008	#7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2008	911 GT2 (997)
2009	Cayenne Turbo S
2010    911 Sport Classic*
2010    Boxter S*
2010    Panamera Turbo*
At least seven of these are technically duplicates in that they're the same car with different liveries, so that cuts it to 33 unique year/model combos (30 if you count the '04 and '05 RSRs, '02 and '03 GT3 Cups, or '82 and '87 930 Turbos as the same car, I don't know if that's valid). We're getting 23 of these, so the question is which ones?

edit: Disregard this, both of these were DLC on FM3
Since two of the new-to-the-series spots are confirmed with the 911SC and the '10 Boxter S here's my guesses for the other five spots:

My guesses for four of the seven new-to-series vehicles:

  • 2012 991 Carrera S
  • 2011 Cayman R
  • 2011 Panamera Turbo S
  • 2011 Cayenne Turbo

wolrah fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 5, 2012

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat

Cannot Find Server posted:

Yeah, it is a bit ridiculous. Especially how it takes less EXP to go from level 0 to 25 than it does to go from level 25 to 50. Those levels from 20-25 are particularly insane with their requirements.

Really? I heard from someone (Cubivore?) that 0-25 is the grind after that there is a sharp drop off in XP required for 26-50. If that's not the case that would suck because I've only just got them all to level 9 with a few exceptions where I've got them higher. At least it's good incentive to drive a variety of cats.

Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

General Probe posted:

At least it's good incentive to drive a variety of cats.

I hear Garfield will be in next month's DLC. :v:

Seriously though, after you break 25 the exp requirement seems to plateau at... I think 100,000 exp per level. I've got Chevy up to level 31 and there hasn't been any exponential increase in how much exp is needed.

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
Whoops, iPhone postin. That's good to hear 1000 xp isn't too bad.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Anyone have a solid C425 tune for the '07 Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupe they can send me? I have created a horrifying paintjob that probably belongs in the club garage, but the car is stock at the moment.

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Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Anyone have a solid C425 tune for the '07 Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupe they can send me? I have created a horrifying paintjob that probably belongs in the club garage, but the car is stock at the moment.
Put it in with a C386 SpecMiata tune?

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