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Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy
I need to find out where the GoonSpec thread is. Is that here? I'm organizing season 3, and need to let everyone know what the schedule will look like.

TannhauserGate
Nov 25, 2007

by garbage day

Fortuitous Bumble posted:

Pretty sure it would have had a column mounted shifter, I'm guessing there are only a few of those in the game so they never bothered with an animation, which is really too bad.

As far as I can tell, confirming this. That animation would really make this experience, but no animation is preferable to the driver reaching for a stick shift that you know doesn't exist.

IOwnCalculus posted:

Can you V8 swap the Corvair?

V8 Camaro '02 and V8DSC ZR1.
Gimme the original engine swaps, not this newfangled mess!
:argh:

GentlemanofLeisure
Aug 27, 2008

silverbullitt850 posted:

I need to find out where the GoonSpec thread is. Is that here? I'm organizing season 3, and need to let everyone know what the schedule will look like.
Yeah, the Goonspec stuff that Jabs has been running has just been posted in this thread. If you post it, people will see it.

edit: Are you going to be putting the schedule on his website?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





TannhauserGate posted:

V8 Camaro '02 and V8DSC ZR1.
Gimme the original engine swaps, not this newfangled mess!
:argh:

Next question, does the car go MR when you do the swap? :v:

And hey, you can mimic the hotter Corvair motors with a turbo swap, can't you?

TannhauserGate
Nov 25, 2007

by garbage day

IOwnCalculus posted:

Next question, does the car go MR when you do the swap? :v:

And hey, you can mimic the hotter Corvair motors with a turbo swap, can't you?

No MR option, so installing a bigger motor just means approaching 30% front balance. I'm surprised it didn't wheelie on my v8 test, and it tries to backflip if you skid the front over a bump.

Yes, one single turbo swap option.

Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

So the new rivals events are up, and I'm looking at the drift challenge.

How the hell do you only get 7 points on one lap? For that matter, how the hell does it end up being a dirty lap? I didn't even know that was possible.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!

Jabs posted:

Nobody gave me any feedback at all when I asked for comment a couple weeks ago. :(

Currently, the schedule looks like this:

So uh... what's SRP?

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy

GentlemanofLeisure posted:

Yeah, the Goonspec stuff that Jabs has been running has just been posted in this thread. If you post it, people will see it.

edit: Are you going to be putting the schedule on his website?

Cool, thanks.

I sent him a PM on the autocross forum we're on, so hopefully so.

Tentative schedule is:

2xBTCC (Krautastic's formula)
1xSpecPinto
2xVintage sports cars (free on TheCowboyJoe's storefront. These were optimized for equal laptimes in testing.. all within .5 sec on Iberian)
1xGoonMons (target lap time format, project cars)
2xTransAm (Krautastic's formula, on his storefront for free, same deal as vintage)
1x??? (could be USTCC, could be modern GT, could be...?)
1xSpecPinto, finale (because the post-finale race was awesome. Kraut made a tune that's a blast to drive)


Vintage are a collection of almost all small displacement sports cars made between 1965 and 1982. The two exceptions are the '79 Camaro and Mustang II, because they're wholly unloved and I thought they would make for fun racing against tiny GTA's and Escorts and such. PI ranges from around 480 for the lowest (Elan) to ~535 for the highest (R5 T2). Krautastic and I were consistently finishing w/in half a second of each other after three laps no matter the pairing of cars.

Trans Am is similar to American Iron from season 1, but there are fewer available cars and again, extensive testing was done to equalize laptimes and speed. What makes this series fun is that all cars run with low pressure drag slicks which, IMO, do an excellent job at simulating '70s era biased-ply race tires.

As for ???, Who knows? I'll defer to Jabs here. I avoided USTCC because the VW R32 was 1-2seconds per lap faster than any other car in this format.




Edit: PS, I'm TheCowboyJoe

silverbullitt850 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Mar 6, 2012

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy

PopeOnARope posted:

So uh... what's SRP?

So, that's not quite the schedule I was thinking, but then again I haven't been officially given the title of "arbiter of all things GoonSpec" yet...

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Scirocco Griffon posted:

So the new rivals events are up

When do they start handing out the gift cars?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

For those patiently waiting for the Title Update, it has been delayed. Turn-10 doesn't know yet when it will be available.

Scirocco Griffon
Feb 3, 2012

Maker Of Shoes posted:

When do they start handing out the gift cars?

They usually start the same day the DLC goes live, but it takes a few days for them to get them all sorted out. With all the free unicorns going out from the KoTT event, I'm not really expecting instant results.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

silverbullitt850 posted:

Edit: PS, I'm TheCowboyJoe

Welcome to our world.

Also, anyone have an idea of times for the new King of the Track challenge?

Boaz MacPhereson fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Mar 6, 2012

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!

silverbullitt850 posted:

So, that's not quite the schedule I was thinking, but then again I haven't been officially given the title of "arbiter of all things GoonSpec" yet...

Welcome aboard. I'd just like to have an idea of what I need to build and where to drive it for tomorrow night.

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy
If we're racing tomorrow night, it will be BTCC, and apparently it's on Sedona club or full reverse. I'd like club, as it's a bit more touring car-y

Sedona
Raceway
Park

Dukket
Apr 28, 2007
So I says to her, I says “LADY, that ain't OIL, its DIRT!!”
Does anyone have suggestions for good tutorials for creating vinyl groups – logos and all that? I've looked the Forza website and done a some googling – just wondering if folks have their favs.

Humorously I think many of my idea will be really tough and I have no talent. BUT if you don't try...

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Dukket posted:

Does anyone have suggestions for good tutorials for creating vinyl groups – logos and all that? I've looked the Forza website and done a some googling – just wondering if folks have their favs.

Humorously I think many of my idea will be really tough and I have no talent. BUT if you don't try...

Not to reveal any secrets, but...I have 14 Mini coopers with about 3000 to 3500 layers of logos each which I am obligated to share (don't worry, this doesn't include anything I got from you guys helping me out with my 82 car project). So if you ever need anything (especially Japanese logos, some of which I'll never use) let me know and I can hook a brother up.

In general though: just play with the basic shapes and get a feel for what they can do and be used for.

Also, Tanz, please report to the GTCC board to pick your car so that I can post them here for everyone else to pick through.

Dukket
Apr 28, 2007
So I says to her, I says “LADY, that ain't OIL, its DIRT!!”

YF19pilot posted:

Not to reveal any secrets, but...I have 14 Mini coopers with about 3000 to 3500 layers of logos each which I am obligated to share (don't worry, this doesn't include anything I got from you guys helping me out with my 82 car project). So if you ever need anything (especially Japanese logos, some of which I'll never use) let me know and I can hook a brother up.

In general though: just play with the basic shapes and get a feel for what they can do and be used for.



Thanks! I'll keep that in mind as I try to figure things out.

I've created a few things - to be honest this seems sooo awkward using a control, but what are you going to do. Currently I'm trying to create bits of the periodic table – which is a bit more daunting then I'd originally thought.

I'd love to try to create a Peter Stokkebye (Tobacco) logo

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Idiot race posted:

Also the 850 has some pretty ballin factory aero


The 850Csi is pretty much an M car (it has a M VIN and the engine has M's S code on it) so it got some of the nice stuff from the M8 prototype (though unfortunately not the 550HP engine).

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy
My ears are bleeding, and I'm really happy

#Ferrari

Sunday Punch
Mar 4, 2009

There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.

Dukket posted:

Does anyone have suggestions for good tutorials for creating vinyl groups – logos and all that? I've looked the Forza website and done a some googling – just wondering if folks have their favs.

Humorously I think many of my idea will be really tough and I have no talent. BUT if you don't try...

Try and break a logo down into its component shapes: look at what tools you have available and how you can make them fit into what you want to be creating. I'd say at least 90% of the shapes in any logo or whatever I make are either squares or circles, you can do a lot with the basic shapes and the scale/skew/rotate tools. Start big and get the major features down first before going in to the details. Don't be afraid to experiment. Other than that I can say it helps if you have a good eye for spacial relationships as it makes getting correct proportions and spacing a lot easier.

I think I may have written up a little more on vinyl creating in either this or the Forza 3 thread so you could look back through my posts if you want (I'm too lazy to do this myself sorry). Siig is really good at painting and I think he may have written a little guide as well maybe.

Kenny Rogers
Sep 7, 2007

Chapter One:
When I first saw Sparky, he reminded me of my favorite comb. He was missing a lot of teeth.
I've got some personal stuff coming up over the next 116 days, and I don't know what my availability actually looks like at this point, so Joe is going to take over primary GoonMarshall duties for this season.

The only change I'd suggest to the schedule is that I initially set up for 3 month increments, so there ought be a third race to each of the three categories to bring the Season up to 12 weeks.

Depending on what my budget looks like at the end of Season 3, there may or may not be Secret Schwag, as there was for Season 2.

Boaz scored a 1600 point card, Joe and Dan both got SA account gift cert's, and are ineligible for the balance of the calendar year.

We shall see what the cards hold in 12 weeks!

I've tried to give Joe Editor permissions for the GoonSpec pages on my website - I'm waiting to hear back whether they're working - and I'm pretty sure he's got edit permissions on the GoonSpec Season Results doc...

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer
It's like that episode of the Simpsons where Marge goes to art class and the guy is like "a cone, then a circle, and even a rhombus". You have to break it down, by basically ignoring perspective, into 2D shapes. A cylinder that recedes is probably best done as a couple of triangles and a square, then rotated into position, then by using the trapezoid you're given, which will lock you into a given shape no matter how you scale it.

Not that I'm good at this, but things I'd look out for:
1. Sizing after rotating is broken, so scale the thing before spinning it as much as possible.
2. A lot of times with text, you can get away with scaling a built-in font's letter to "close enough" of what you wanted, and then copy->paste->change vinyl shape->reposition the new letters.

Anyway, this is my latest, for the Korean GTCC tomorrow:


North Korea best korea.

EDIT: Bentron you aren't really banned, I just put that in because it seemed hilarious. Don't hate me. <3

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

silverbullitt850
Mar 6, 2012

Hey you guys like to troll? I've got some pretty sick trolling skills. Just don't expect me to read anything.

-Colon Cowboy

Jabs posted:

I've got some personal stuff coming up over the next 116 days, and I don't know what my availability actually looks like at this point, so Joe is going to take over primary GoonMarshall duties for this season.

The only change I'd suggest to the schedule is that I initially set up for 3 month increments, so there ought be a third race to each of the three categories to bring the Season up to 12 weeks.

Depending on what my budget looks like at the end of Season 3, there may or may not be Secret Schwag, as there was for Season 2.

Boaz scored a 1600 point card, Joe and Dan both got SA account gift cert's, and are ineligible for the balance of the calendar year.

We shall see what the cards hold in 12 weeks!

I've tried to give Joe Editor permissions for the GoonSpec pages on my website - I'm waiting to hear back whether they're working - and I'm pretty sure he's got edit permissions on the GoonSpec Season Results doc...


Thanks Jabs!

Everyone else- you're in for it now!! muahahaha

I've posted a tentative schedule up on his site for now. I guess I'll add a third race to each category now, so it'll look a bit different.

For now, the Trans-Am cars are not available, as Krautastic is finalizing the roster. Same with SpecPinto. That was so much darn fun.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Interview with Dan Greenawalt; http://www.gametrailers.com/video/porsche-is-forza-motorsport/727669 He talks about the new level cap, and the level cap increase doesn't give any rewards. :( Now does he mean no cars, or also no money? I can't imagine no additional credits, but Turn-10 does have an in-game economy to worry about.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.



GTCC, I'm coming

Expect a constant stream of vulgarities as I smack every wall in sight

Dukket
Apr 28, 2007
So I says to her, I says “LADY, that ain't OIL, its DIRT!!”
Thanks for the suggestions!

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
I'll do my best with this.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer

Kilonum posted:

Expect a constant stream of vulgarities as I smack every wall in sight

You will fit in perfectly.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

I said come in! posted:

Interview with Dan Greenawalt; http://www.gametrailers.com/video/porsche-is-forza-motorsport/727669 He talks about the new level cap, and the level cap increase doesn't give any rewards. :( Now does he mean no cars, or also no money? I can't imagine no additional credits, but Turn-10 does have an in-game economy to worry about.

The problem is what to do with all those levels, if anything its just going to show bragging rights, but to crank it up to 999 instead of, say, 250 is a bit odd.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

Ringo Star Get posted:

The problem is what to do with all those levels, if anything its just going to show bragging rights, but to crank it up to 999 instead of, say, 250 is a bit odd.

They probably figured that they would underestimate players again and the entire situation would repeat itself, giving them pressure to raise the level cap a second time. The devs probably just said "gently caress it, levels are already 3 digits, max that sumbitch out!"

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!

silverbullitt850 posted:

If we're racing tomorrow night, it will be BTCC, and apparently it's on Sedona club or full reverse. I'd like club, as it's a bit more touring car-y

Sedona
Raceway
Park

Righto. Can I get a link to the rules for BTCC?

speedtek
Nov 26, 2004

Let's make it out, baby.
Full schedule, with links to each series' rules is here

Bookmark it!

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


TannhauserGate posted:

As far as I can tell, confirming this. That animation would really make this experience, but no animation is preferable to the driver reaching for a stick shift that you know doesn't exist.

Doesn't the Thunderbird do this though? Reaching for a non-existent gear lever, I mean.

General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat

Ringo Star Get posted:

The problem is what to do with all those levels, if anything its just going to show bragging rights, but to crank it up to 999 instead of, say, 250 is a bit odd.

If level 999 give no benefit other than showing how much I play F4 I'd rather they not implement it at all, ugh. With a 150 cap I can hide my shame at least.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I hope we are just misunderstanding, and Dan meant that there are no new cars past level 150. Credit rewards would be very welcomed.

AlmightyPants
Mar 14, 2001

King of Scheduling
Pillbug
I haven't played much lately, but it seems that I am mostly alone in LLJK. Where did everyone migrate to?

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
Crossposting from the SAEG thread.


(Bigshot)





Good times were had!

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FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Does AUGR have official number plate thingies? If not, should we?

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